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Wizzy214

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high steady rev at start up.
« on: February 28, 2008, 09:02:04 AM »
99 kx250 just working out all the bugs.
every time i try and start the kx it revs up super high super fast. when i twist the throttle it bogs out and dies. and this is with the choke on, but when i turn the choke  off its at such a high rpm it doesnt do anything. and the kill switch doesnt do much when pushing it as hard as you can.
what could be causing this?
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Offline Jeeks

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Re: high steady rev at start up.
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2008, 09:10:11 AM »
Sounds like it's starving for fuel.  First off, you should really fix that kill switch.  Check all the passages and jets in the carb, and look for an air leak.
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Offline Hillclimb#42

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Re: high steady rev at start up.
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2008, 09:11:32 AM »
Revving up is a lean condition. So it is not getting enough gas or is getting too much air at idle. Then the bog is off the idle jet so indicates plugged main jet or busted reeds. Sounds like you have two things going on at once. Pull fuel line from carb, and check gas flow from petcock. Check for air leaks around head or base gaskets. (would look clean or wet in seam), pull carb check jets by looking thru them. Verify they are the right ones for your temp and altitude from jetting chart. Pull reeds and visually inspect for cracked or missing petals. Since you would already have carb apart check float adjustment. Hopefully you have not had that hapen much, because when it leans out and revs high like that, it usually is melting the piston. Actually that kill switch may be working alright. When that cylinder leans out it gets hot enough to run without spark. Make sure idle screw is not all the way in and slide closes all of the way. There should be a little slack in throttle tube that you can feel in the grip.
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Offline don46

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Re: high steady rev at start up.
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2008, 11:25:18 AM »
lean condition, plugged jets, wrong jets, air leak, betting its one of these, what size is the main and pilot?

Jeeks, you have a 99-02 250 what jets are you running? I would guess about a 160 main and probably a 58 pilot.
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Re: high steady rev at start up.
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2008, 03:59:39 AM »
I'm not fussy.  I stick with the factory jetting, except one bike that has a slightly rich pilot.  Don't really need the choke to start it.

I think, like others said, something is wrong otherwise it would have run lean before.  You really need to retrace your steps, starting from the cylinder back to the air filter.

One thing I have found with my 2000's is, on cold starts the bike rev's high at first, so to reduce any damage to the engine I throttle the choke lever to keep the rev's at a respectable level while she warms up.  It only occurs in the first 20-30 seconds, but it's not good practice to wind up a cold engine.
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Re: high steady rev at start up.
« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2008, 08:42:43 AM »
Come to think of it, my 250 used to do that at start up, too. It was controllable with the killswitch, though. It hasn't done it for awhile now. I always start with the choke and wait till she idles down a bit before turning it off.
  For me to read that it is not affected by the kill switch, tells me that it is lean and glowing inside. You really need to verify that the slide closes and that you have not blown a gasket. If it is running, it will keep pulling in gas and can run without spark. It cannot run without air supply.

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Re: high steady rev at start up.
« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2008, 01:00:45 PM »
Hmmmm...I never tried to idle down with the kill switch.  I'm gonna try that next time.  Ususally, I just flip the choke on/off just enough to keep the RPM's down until the carb "charges".  I also lean the bike over before I start it which aids in easier starts.

Good luck on that bike.  Let us know what you find.
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Re: high steady rev at start up.
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2008, 04:21:22 AM »
Did you get anywhere with the bike?
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Wizzy214

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Re: high steady rev at start up.
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2008, 08:50:33 AM »
had a pinch in the throttle cable, re routed it behind the bars, problem solved.
thanks for the help.