KX Riders
Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Super Motard => Topic started by: KX500freak on December 25, 2008, 06:43:56 AM
-
hey ,
this topic shows the rebuild of my supermoto.
i did build one but now i bought an former superbiker Kx500 engine.
so i go from there.
also i found out it,s been build by jan de groot,
he,s one famous kawi tuner in holland.
mods are a worked cylinder.
millet racing pipe
boyesen reeds
done list:
*7 unfinished factory welds finished (tip from bdi)
waterpump-protector
* millet pipe
(didn,t do the submount so it will snap instead of my handmade sub)
to do list :
*restore millet pipe
*regrease swingarmbearings
*paint
*new frontbrake setup
1stpic how it was
sec pic the piece i bought
3rd the millet pipe
4th engine dirty
5th engine clean 8-)
it came out like new :lol:took me few hours of brushing
update,s r coming soon
paint next tuesday
-
here,s a pic from the frame after welding
the angle is exact a little ove the outersection of the waterpump.
this way it,ll take the hit instead .
-
after like 4 hours of hard labour ,mostly done with a drill with steelbrush,
im proudly presenting the rehab. millet racing pipe :lol:
its shiny bare metal again,instead of the black rustpit it was..
also discovered 2 narrow cracks and i repaired a huge dent in the curlsection too
had to drill a hole on the opposite spot ,
and then used a thick steel rod to hit the dent back from the inside.
then welded it up .
its ready for rebuild :mrgreen:
-
today i went for the paintjob ,so my friends industrial oven for dogcookies was usefull.
its freezing -10 in holland at the moment..
so the pieces went into the oven after arrival for warm-up..
then the paint and then back in the oven for baking :lol:
ready in less then 2,5 hours for the whole deal
results are great :-)
first pic is the baking proces
sec the endresult ,frame done 8-)
-
So your bike has become a Champ k5 or a Pedigree k5 :wink: :wink:
Just kidding Menno.
It looks great your man new frame, shiny Millet exhaust.
Dutch
-
thanks peter!
:-D :-D hell ,it even smelled like cookies when it came out the oven :? :lol:
but then again,who can say that he used a 70K Euro costing oven just for frame-baking 8-)
the next day i,ll put it on its wheels ,engine goes in ,pipe goes on ,fenders and seat also.
so i,m busy on the last day of 2008
-
Lookin' good! I cant wait to see this thing put back together.
-G
-
thanks Gdubb :-)
i,ve been working my ass of today,
and i,m very very pleased with how the bike,s gonna turn out
i have 2 pics and it gives a good view on today,s progress.
since i,m gonna go out tonight i wanna wish you all a happy new year !!!!
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :lol: :wink:
-
Looks like a brand new bike Menno.
Your realy on fire with your re-build. Mine is more a candel now.
Don't have the place to work on, only on work. But have more than enough time
no to complete al idea's and make a blueprint(in my head) how
I finaly will make mine bike.
Gelukkig Nieuwjaar alvast!!!
Mogen 2009 een goed K5 jaar worden.
Groetjes Dutchie
PS Happy Newyear to the rest!!
-
thanks man ,im so proud how it,s turning out .
beyond expectations :-)
en jij ook een heel goed en gaaf 2009 gewenst peter
dat we mekaar gauw eens kunnen treffen !
lookin forward meetin you in 09 :-)
tomorrow more pics
-
dang Menno, that thing is looking great. you're really whipping that rebuild into shape. good job, looks sweet!!! MADDOGGY
-
Very nice. The frame and pipe turned out great!!! I wish I was getting as much work done as you are... :-D
-
dang Menno, that thing is looking great. you're really whipping that rebuild into shape. good job, looks sweet!!! MADDOGGY
thanks marty !!
i,m making shifts building this machine,but if i slow down ,i loose the pace :lol:
and i free for 3 more days ,then hard labour for a company calls again:|
so here,s a fresh update !
tonight i,m going to mount the Millet,which is no easy task ,
since the previous owners had their ignitioncover half melted from the heat .
so im gonna rework the pipe-route ,so it stays clear of all obstacles.
Freak
-
Very nice. The frame and pipe turned out great!!! I wish I was getting as much work done as you are... :-D
thank you too good !
maybe you can suck up some of my working pace ,then you go faster too :lol:
lots of small things done like carb, cables ,rads ,fender etc:
more pics later today :-D :-D
-
as promised more pics of the science in progress,
calling it science because it,s not standard stuff ,nothing fits well after having been disassembled :?
just to mount the huge sucker of a pipe took me 2.5 hours and 2 re-located mounts..
but honestly who did ever see such a amazing huge pipe,
for sure i didn,t before this millet came around.
-
check the pipe :-o it,s huge
-
view on the frame/pipe-protector
-
front-end finished 8-) only the brake yet still to come.
-
Looks GREAT Menno!!
Wow that millet is enormous, sould make so more HP!!!!
Think it's alot better of on the Sumo than on Mx. If you take
so realy deep DUTCH roots, your exhaust wil hit the ground to much.
Found one almost new Millet for a honda, ?500 or not says the guy.
It looks like your making Hollands Kx500 museum :-D :-D
Great work man!!
Dutchie
-
Looks GREAT Menno!!
Wow that millet is enormous, sould make so more HP!!!!
Think it's alot better of on the Sumo than on Mx. If you take
so realy deep DUTCH roots, your exhaust wil hit the ground to much.
Found one almost new Millet for a honda, ?500 or not says the guy.
It looks like your making Hollands Kx500 museum :-D :-D
Great work man!!
Dutchie
it does !! i noticed beeing pulled around like i was 120 lbs or so :-o
you got the mx part right !
there is no way a 21" mx will fit together with the millet :roll:
so it must be sm .
and 500 or not says it all..these pipes were 650 back in the days.
and im having enough build lately ,will ride now :-P
-
s?ome years ago whan I was at Yadoul. They had a custom lowboy pipe
wich was almost as fat as millet. Sould be good for 7hp more.
Have don some biddings on a set of mx wheels and carter set with 2 exhausts.
If it's not to much I'll buy those and than it's building and riding only for me!!!
That's where they maked the bike for.
Dutch
-
where does the guy live with that millet??i know a buyer probably
-
where does the guy live with that millet??i know a buyer probably
Bij onze Zuider buren.
http://www.2dehands.be/millet-uitlaat-honda-cr-500-37758891.html?qq=cr%20500 (http://www.2dehands.be/millet-uitlaat-honda-cr-500-37758891.html?qq=cr%20500)
Here is the link where I found it.
-
good observation peter !
i,ve been passing it to a friend or 2 with cr,s
-
very good news ! the bike is done :evil:
only thing left is put oil in the gearbox and fuel it up and then testdrive the beast.
also im looking for a graphics kit for 98 kx250 anyone ?? :roll: :wink:
-
side
-
and another one :-)
-
Bike looks great Menno!!! On the old foto it looked
like it was tilted forward alot. Now looks like it sould be!!!!!!
I've looked for some graphics, couldent find some.
Keep looking in 2dehands.be and kappaza.be!!!!
Dutch
-
thanks peter,im happy to have completed the build now..
tomorrow work and in then next weeks im busy :evil:
going to move to a new garage,not the one i was in for ,but even bigger!
it has a raised floor with room for all the bikes to stand in a row :-D
and my beautifull oldtimer has it,s own place in it too.
now its itting alone in a very narrow garagebox :cry:
and thanks for looking for the plasts,ill dig in and give vdvegt a call :-)
btw first start will probably be put on utube .
-
Bike looks great Menno!!! On the old foto it looked
like it was tilted forward alot. Now looks like it sould be!!!!!!
I've looked for some graphics, couldent find some.
Keep looking in 2dehands.be and kappaza.be!!!!
Dutch
IF you want it to steer in to turn quickly/sharper at a supermototrac you must tilt bike very much "forward". 8-)
I raise forks 3cm in trippleclamp and stiffen up shock to be set at 15mm unloaded and 85mm racesag.
This change offset,steeringangle and trail from a MX-setup to a okey SM-setup.
You should have a very slow return for your shock to get very stabil when braking and accelration.
More compression for shock too.You don?t want bike to powerwheelie to much.
And you should have backwheel as closet to engine as possible for shorter overall length.
This don?t make bike unstable at straight,only sharper turningability.
My whishlist now for frame is:
1.Changed trippleclamp offset from 20* to 18*maybe 16*
2.Shorted swingarm,about 3cm.(overall length adjusteble between 140-145cm)
Now have I tell you some KX500 supermotosecrets,don?t spread it to much! :-D
-
You want a shorter swingarm?????
Don't you wheelie to much than???
dutch
-
You want a shorter swingarm?????
Don't you wheelie to much than???
dutch
It?s a trade off,more to win time in turns than to stop powerwheelie at straights. :|
Becaused higher "ridehigh" with my suspension setup it minimize also powerwheelies. 8-)
-
Bike looks great Menno!!! On the old foto it looked
like it was tilted forward alot. Now looks like it sould be!!!!!!
Dutch
Now have I tell you some KX500 supermotosecrets,don?t spread it to much! :-D
SSsssssssssssst :wink:
thats some nice info doordie ,thanks for sharing
-
Menno!!!!! This info is for KX RACERS only.
Don't you want to win and have a KX riders 2e :?
Else you don't have a battle, it's no fun riding allone
in front. :mrgreen:
Moto Gp bikes are getting shorter, but the swingarm is getting longer.
I understand idea of shorter wheelbase and longer swingarm.
So for you Doordie it's a compramise.
Dutchie
-
very good news ! the bike is done :evil:
only thing left is put oil in the gearbox and fuel it up and then testdrive the beast.
also im looking for a graphics kit for 98 kx250 anyone ?? :roll: :wink:
very nice bike :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o
-
dont do this :-ohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeGYgM3kovQ
-
Menno!!!!! This info is for KX RACERS only.
Don't you want to win and have a KX riders 2e :?
Else you don't have a battle, it's no fun riding allone
in front. :mrgreen:
Dutchie
wat bedoel je peter ? ik snap m niet helemaal :roll: ?
oow btw dat rooie ding,kun je die aub in sm movies and pics pleuren ?
dat ding vloekt in mijn groene kerk :x :|
please peter,can you put that red thing in sm pics and movies ,
it,s causing me headaches looking at it :oops:
-
very good news ! the bike is done :evil:
only thing left is put oil in the gearbox and fuel it up and then testdrive the beast.
also im looking for a graphics kit for 98 kx250 anyone ?? :roll: :wink:
very nice bike :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o
thanks giancarlo !!
i already solved the graphics issue by some homemade ones..
i like it and its way better now 8-)
costs : nothing :-)
-
8-) 8-)
-
Menno!!!!! This info is for KX RACERS only.
Don't you want to win and have a KX riders 2e :?
Else you don't have a battle, it's no fun riding allone
in front. :mrgreen:
Dutchie
wat bedoel je peter ? ik snap m niet helemaal :roll: ?
oow btw dat rooie ding,kun je die aub in sm movies and pics pleuren ?
dat ding vloekt in mijn groene kerk :x :|
please peter,can you put that red thing in sm pics and movies ,
it,s causing me headaches looking at it :oops:
what's the matter k5freak, don't like the other sm bike? curses in my green church? i think it looks pretty cool although it isn't green. ever think about putting on black side panels and a black number plate? i think that would look killer!!!!!!!
-
thats a possibility too ,black ,but i love some white on it ,you know :lol:
and for that honda ,it sure is a nice piece of art.
but i just think it,s more suited in the sm pics and movies topic ,
because this is my rebuild topic.
cursing in my church is ment in a friendly way .. i had 2 honda,s myself once.
and but it,s to me like americanfootball rivals ,you have reds ..and greens by ex.
i,m green so no red in my topic :lol: 8-)
-
enough said menno, i understand. your rebuild did turn out very nice.
-
okey..btw..thanks marty :-)
only thing to do is put fuel in ,and fire it up.
-
Menno!!!!! This info is for KX RACERS only.
Don't you want to win and have a KX riders 2e :?
Else you don't have a battle, it's no fun riding allone
in front. :mrgreen:
Dutchie
wat bedoel je peter ? ik snap m niet helemaal :roll: ?
oow btw dat rooie ding,kun je die aub in sm movies and pics pleuren ?
dat ding vloekt in mijn groene kerk :x :|
please peter,can you put that red thing in sm pics and movies ,
it,s causing me headaches looking at it :oops:
Die ROOIE is weg hoor!!!
The red one is gone, maybe it wil apear someware else :wink:
And for the batlle: You know that only GREEN can win races :mrgreen:
So With the info on here, only green riders will be faster.
Al other will be one(or more) round behind.
Than its not a fun race if you can only race with your self :wink:
Dutchie
-
:-) ..i didn,t ment to be rude peter,im hoping you won,t be mad on me
very kind of you to re-post it as i wished you would do :-)
toppie peter,bedankt
-
d?on't worry Menno!!!!
I'm not MAD!!!!
The picture looks better were it is now!!!!!
Dutchie
-
:wink: oke dutchie 8-)
wish it was spring ,i hate this weather,wanna testride :evil: can,t now :| :cry:
-
:wink: oke dutchie 8-)
wish it was spring ,i hate this weather,wanna testride :evil: can,t now :| :cry:
yes freak but if there are not winters ,you don't have winter projects :roll:
-
Just have a project going all the time, then you don't have to worry about the seasons.
-
:wink: oke dutchie 8-)
wish it was spring ,i hate this weather,wanna testride :evil: can,t now :| :cry:
yes freak but if there are not winters ,you don't have winter projects :roll:
gheghe smartass :-D
hey giancarlo ,you asked if i would sale the engine that came from the winterproj.08/09
but it,s my spareparts provider ,so unfortunately i can,t sell :-( sorry man
and i came across nothing so far ,but i didn,t call vdvegt yet,i will when having the time
-
Just have a project going all the time, then you don't have to worry about the seasons.
:-o another KX500 :-D :-D
i,m fed up with 3 ..decided to ride,m instead of building ,m
but now i got this new quarters...
omg it,s tripple the size of my old place
i put the bikes where my buddy stands
and my oldtimer goes in front on the paved place
its awesome so i wanna build a bike there :-D
offcourse it must be painted and furnished but so it came today 8-)
-
:wink: oke dutchie 8-)
wish it was spring ,i hate this weather,wanna testride :evil: can,t now :| :cry:
yes freak but if there are not winters ,you don't have winter projects :roll:
i totaly understand freak :-D i tryd the website of vdvegt but i dont get in :? but as you now ,i have al the time of the world for my project :mrgreen:
gheghe smartass :-D
hey giancarlo ,you asked if i would sale the engine that came from the winterproj.08/09
but it,s my spareparts provider ,so unfortunately i can,t sell :-( sorry man
and i came across nothing so far ,but i didn,t call vdvegt yet,i will when having the time
-
glad you understand my friend,but we,ll find you an engine :-)
i know you have the time , that,s making things easier
in the meantime i haven,t sit still and my KawaDrome is nearly finished :mrgreen:
it feels like it,s not mine ..after all these years in my old garage..
piccies how it turned out.
1st my family ..
2nd my family 2 & 4 wheeled
-
its kinda cosy in my new place,took some more pics 8-) :wink:
even my 25 year old car is happy sitting around now
-
i did ride the bike yet ,it is scary how much power is coming out of it
feel like a flag again :lol: hanging on for life ...
also i did some paintwork ,pics will come tonight .
-
as promised :-)
-
in the mean time,
update!!
the tank has been leaking,
and i glued it with some tight stuff for just over 20 bucks
so im happy now :-D
27 th of april i have a race with it and it will be its maidentrip
-
i had the race yesterday ,it went fine ,the tank held great.
it outran all 4poppers on the straights and in the narrow in btweens,
even a 54o bigbore kxf couldn,t keep up with it
450 smr 08 owned
crf450 owned :lol:
husa 650 owned
kdx250 owned
husqy,s all owned
i have no actionpics till now ,maybe someday soon they maid appear
only this shot of after the races