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Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Aluminum Frame Conversion (AFC) => Topic started by: cmotodad on October 16, 2012, 05:26:32 PM

Title: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: cmotodad on October 16, 2012, 05:26:32 PM
In the process of putting an 89 K5 into an 04 crf 250 chassis.Has anyone built one of these? If so, how was it to build? Thanks, Bob
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: 81cr450 on October 17, 2012, 01:36:50 PM
I've done a gen2 & gen3 cr250r chassis with a k5 motor. Pretty easy, you dont have to cut the Y. Hardest bit is the case milling to narrow it enough to fit between swing arm bearing carriers.

heres a link to the build, any questions feel free to ask

 http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,9339.0.html

I believe your F frame should be the same as the R frame both would be gen 3
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: ZETTNORCAL on October 17, 2012, 01:59:12 PM
you will have to cut the y on the f frame for sure.
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: cmotodad on October 17, 2012, 04:50:41 PM
If have built a crf250/500 honda, a cr125/500 Honda and a cr250/500 Honda. Have cut Y's, made solid billet y's and mounts. The Y will move up just like a CR5. I think all 3 chassis used the same Honda spacers. The only part that has me worried is the centering of motor and the clearancing of swingarm. Any and all help on how much to mill to center is apreciated. 81 cr450, did you get my pm?
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: 81cr450 on October 18, 2012, 01:43:52 AM
My thought is why cut the Y if you dont have to? The K5 motor is near an inch shorter than the cr & lighter to boot. I havent looked at an F frame there though just assuming

You narrow the case on both builds , didnt write it down the first time though. the swinger on the first one wasnt clearanced as it was narrower on the pivot points. I'm thinking I took off the same on the other case but it was more from the opposite side of the case, like exactly backwards
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: cmotodad on October 18, 2012, 09:57:59 AM
You definately need to raise the Y on the F.The F has a good part to remove, clean and reweld. I will make some billet front mounts and rails with inserts to match the existing rails and Y. I will do the measuring and keep a log.
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: cmotodad on November 12, 2012, 04:49:32 AM
Well, it was a good night in the garage. The engine is now 17mm swingarm size and the cases have been narrowed to fit the swingarm and center the countershaft sprocket. I took 1mm off the countershaft side to make the sprocket alignment. After the 1mm was removed, I measured the swingarm width using 2 countershaft side swingarm spacers from a CRF250, one on each side and then removed @ 3mm from the brake side. No narrowing of spacers and stock parts. Nice fit with perfect sprocket alignment. I will keep updates as I progress.
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: cmotodad on November 15, 2012, 06:09:01 PM
Spent more time in the garage. The frame is cut, Y raised and extensions in place. Milled up some lower motor mounts, made the headstay brackets and fabbed up some removable front motor mounts. Project is coming along nicely. I have the plate made for the airbox but I am trying to decide on the best boot. CR250 is close, stock 500 is close but I think I will look for a 2003 KX250 boot. After the welding is complete, I will get my son to help me post some photos.
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: cmotodad on December 07, 2012, 10:41:29 AM
Here are the photos of the raised Y, motor mounts, ignition bracket, and coil mount. More to come...

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j267/blacken145/IMG_3918.jpg)
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j267/blacken145/IMG_3919.jpg)
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j267/blacken145/IMG_3921.jpg)
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j267/blacken145/IMG_3922.jpg)
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j267/blacken145/IMG_3923.jpg)
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j267/blacken145/IMG_3924.jpg)
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: cmotodad on May 05, 2013, 02:12:34 AM
It's been awhile but I spent a little time on the conversion. Doing a little test fitting and now have the Fluidyne radiators welded for the K5 motor. It took 2 new 90,s for the lower crossover, 2 plugs on the stock lower crossovers and a new 90 for the line to the w/p. Went to the auto parts store and found a hose from the head to rad, a stock K5 works to the w/p and a straight lower crossover hose with the stock CRF250 upper. Most of the fitment is complete just waiting for the crank from Crankwerks and will be ready to assemble the motor and install.
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: cmotodad on June 02, 2013, 09:44:05 AM
Well, I finally received the balanced crank. Now I need to get time to assemble the motor. I am debating on having someone do the cylinder. Looking for a smooth motor to use for mx. Any opinions? Thanks
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: sandblaster on June 02, 2013, 02:57:03 PM
Looks great!
Your tearing this build up!
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: sandmaster995 on June 03, 2013, 02:44:29 AM
Wow.....That is some clean work. Impressive.
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: cmotodad on August 11, 2013, 11:29:13 AM
Well, my buddy called today and said come over and take a look at the AF pipe. WOW! He used the head pipe from the PC pipe (like the old works pipe I have seen) and then formed a proper dimension cone pipe out to the CR500 silencer. I am so ready to get it together now. I am getting new mounts and he will place the mounts and it will be ready. Pics when I figure out how to get it from my phone to computer.
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: cmotodad on August 13, 2013, 08:49:55 AM
Here is the photo of almost complete pipe. Sorry, I cannot move it from my pictures to this post.
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: LundMx on August 15, 2013, 11:54:27 AM
Says page can not be displayed when i clicked it..
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: cmotodad on August 15, 2013, 04:49:03 PM
Sorry do not what is up. It is on my phone if you want a text. Bob
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: lokenov on August 15, 2013, 05:49:19 PM
My CRF450-05/Kx500-02 :-D
(http://i051.radikal.ru/1308/e7/57174032b13e.jpg)
(http://s019.radikal.ru/i620/1308/70/e9a157e860ce.jpg)
(http://i019.radikal.ru/1308/26/a8a90e3f69b5.jpg)
(http://s001.radikal.ru/i196/1308/9c/b0741876beb2.jpg)
Title: Re: 04 CRF to k5
Post by: cmotodad on August 16, 2013, 03:31:59 AM
That is a well used bike. Made for having fun!