Maintenance & Technical > KX450F / KX250F
KX450F vs. KX500
J.ellwanger:
lol good to dream, at this point, with 4 strokes the way they are, I'll never buy, or be able to afford, :?1200+ for top end?
im having a hard time doing the $470 for my 125. (topend, new kips, gaskets, piston) :cry:
motopunk:
--- Quote from: jBernard on September 26, 2013, 01:19:41 PM ---a 300-400cc 2 stroke and for a dream, add in EFI or Direct Injection and IMHO that would be a 4 stroke killer.
the longer the big manufacturers wait the less likely they are going to re-tool and dump money in R&D for 2 stroke.
Unfortunetly it will never happen due to the money made off 4 Strokes, bikes are more expensive, parts are more expensive. why would they go back?
i'm surprised you dont see a 300SX ktm. of course theres the 300XC but have to dump $$$ to convert it to an SX and loose some of the weight. theres also the big bore kit for the 250 but its $$$ as well.
i just bought a '14 ktm 250sx and its awesome. an ultralight 300 would be even better and close the gap the 450 4 stroke has. i dont think they want to make it because it would hurt 4 stroke sales obviously.
and the idea of a private company coming up with a dream engine. i dont think it will ever happen, theres no way someone can jump in and match any kind of R&D ktm or the japanese have come up with. would probably be a 300 2 stroke that put 40hp to the wheels and was full of problems.
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i ride a 360 ( big bored and longer stroked ´96 kx250 engine in actual 87-frame ) on the dyno we measured 51 hp on rear wheel. at the moment a little problem with the handmade copper-ring thats the new headgasket (i´m working to find a better solution) , but if it runs with its full potenzial no 450 wins a racestart against me... 8-)
J.ellwanger:
well then im playing the lotto
and as soon as I win that 350million, I'll open shop. we cant let 2srokes lose due to money gains
J.ellwanger:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gVeqix2Yc4
anybody hear of athena?
looks European based,
sandblaster:
--- Quote from: J.ellwanger on September 27, 2013, 04:27:52 AM ---well then im playing the lotto
and as soon as I win that 350million, I'll open shop. we cant let 2srokes lose due to money gains
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When you do win the lotto for 350 million, you can buy my shop....
--- Quote from: J.ellwanger on September 27, 2013, 05:26:51 AM ---http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gVeqix2Yc4
anybody hear of athena?
looks European based,
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Nope, but looks promising..... but I wouldn't hold your breath for anything fitting older bikes.
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