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Idle or not Idle?
serafin:
I like idle
Serafin
FuriouSly:
--- Quote ---I am defenatly a pro! (John)
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Hehehe, that's funny. Me too, me too!
--- Quote ---When you create an idle, you also create an extended "hang time" in engine rpm's when abruptly decellerating. This causes added "drive" entering corners that is not wanted. (Polar-Bus)
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So is this a 500 thing or a two-stroke in general thing? I am thinking about how I ride and feel that I must be doing something wrong then. I use my clutch quite a bit when entering corners to remove drive and use the brake(s) to control speed. So if more veteran riders actually kill their bike going into turns or the like, then even though they have no idle they still have too much drive then?
Too bad about bump starts, my bike has too many tough ponies to drag start it in the sand. :wink: Sly
Polar-Bus:
Back when 125's and 250's were "kings" using 2 stroke engine braking was a consistant way to dive into a corner. Dragging your rear brakes hard, many times causes unwanted rear wheel "hop" Many times your engine would stall. Simply letting off the rear brake would allow the engine to bump, and restart. This was very easy on 125's, and slightly less common on 250's. This method would be impossible on a 500!! Even with the addition of my flywheel weight, I still stall my 500 in corners trying to "drive in" hard. The 500 simply likes smooth, and definately clutch pulled. On my 500, I prefer an idle. Running race fuel, and jetted spot on, I have only a minimal amount of the common rpm "hang time" declellarating. It was VERY prominent when my 500 was bone stock.
n2682:
i like bikes to idle and to not idle it depends on were im riding and the size of bike i would agree that the bike stalling in corners is what the pro's use and they like no idle cuase the bike surges going in the corner it causes a imbalance in crank case pressure and makes the throttle responce coming out of a corner not predictable some situations could cost u a possition on the track if the bike falls on its face because all the built up fuel from lettin off the throttle if your goign at a good pace u dont notice it but goign from 30 to 5 and downshifting 2 gears to nail the next section thats when u feel it we dont feel it on the bike kx5 because we could almost tip a gas can up and let it go down the carb and the bike would still run but the 125 and the 250 are smaller motors i guess what im saying is if u nail the brakes goign into a corner the throttle closes all the way the motor has burnt up all the extra fuel u can crack the throttle 1/4 half whatever u preffer and it will come straight to life with the idle turned all the way down basically everyone knows lean is fast fat is slow get the concept ive almost confused my self here if your not bubba stewart you dont need to worry chances are the next guy will miss a gear and u will be back out front anyways! nick from michigan
azdirtrider75:
I like idle
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