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KX GURU RACING MSV PHI IMPELLER TESTING ROUND 1
« on: July 28, 2019, 01:01:29 PM »
Keeping it cool Hot Head  8-)
I was asked to test the new MSV Racing PHI impeller for the KX500.
You can read my first round of testing here:

http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=1535



« Last Edit: July 29, 2019, 05:42:56 AM by sandblaster »
The four stroke engine: That's one stroke for producing power and three for wearing the engine out.

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Re: KX GURU RACING MSV PHI IMPELLER TESTING ROUND 1
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2019, 12:17:00 PM »
I had a couple of people ask me about the MSV PHI impeller. I just ordered one for my KtX500e. 😎 Needless to say, I speak with my PayPal account :-)

Just for grins, I switched coolants today. For the testing I was running 50/50... Today I drained it and put in some Royal Purple Purple Ice. I tested several coolants years ago and nothing cooled better than Purple Ice so I expected to see significant differences and the Purple Ice did not disappoint.... WOW! Needless to say I will continue running it in all my bikes.
The four stroke engine: That's one stroke for producing power and three for wearing the engine out.

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Re: KX GURU RACING MSV PHI IMPELLER TESTING ROUND 1
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2019, 12:53:29 PM »
Looks good, is that a straight swap for part number  13070-1122   ??

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Re: KX GURU RACING MSV PHI IMPELLER TESTING ROUND 1
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2019, 04:43:03 AM »
It is a straight swap for a KX500 impeller...
I'm way to lazy to look up part numbers today  :lol:
The four stroke engine: That's one stroke for producing power and three for wearing the engine out.

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Re: KX GURU RACING MSV PHI IMPELLER TESTING ROUND 1
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2019, 04:43:43 AM »
Here is some independent testing done by Alex Ward which further confirms my own testing..


The four stroke engine: That's one stroke for producing power and three for wearing the engine out.

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Re: KX GURU RACING MSV PHI IMPELLER TESTING ROUND 1
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2019, 05:11:16 AM »
Pretty substantial!...gunna have to look into one.
Thanks for takin the time to run these.
Excuse me, ma'am...but you've got extremely nice legs!!!...what time do they open???                                                                                                               https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8tCgN3aryQ

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Re: KX GURU RACING MSV PHI IMPELLER TESTING ROUND 1
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2019, 11:29:50 AM »
Will this work on pre-89 models?
Perhaps I have a dirt bike addiction?

03 KX 250/88 KX 525/2017 KX250F - Goliath
17 KX250F/04 KX250
04 KX 250 - Lunchbox's Bike
05 KX 125/144

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Re: KX GURU RACING MSV PHI IMPELLER TESTING ROUND 1
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2019, 12:14:18 PM »
Here is some additional independent testing from Ben Deckert.

The four stroke engine: That's one stroke for producing power and three for wearing the engine out.

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Re: KX GURU RACING MSV PHI IMPELLER TESTING ROUND 1
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2019, 12:22:28 PM »
Will this work on pre-89 models?

You guys are bound and determined to make me work today  :-P
These models it will fit.
59256-1065
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1991 KX125 - KX125-H2 Engine Cover
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1992 KX250 - KX250-J1 Engine Cover
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1993 KX125 - KX125-J2 Engine Cover
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1990 KX500 - KX500-E2 Engine Cover
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1989 KX500 - KX500-E1 Engine Cover
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1993 KX250 - KX250-J2 Engine Cover
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1991 KX500 - KX500-E3 Engine Cover
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1992 KX125 - KX125-J1 Engine Cover
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1988 KX500 - KX500-D1 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1994 KX500 - KX500-E6 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1996 KX125 - KX125-K3 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1995 KX250 - KX250-K2 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2002 KX250 - KX250-L4 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2002 KX500 - KX500-E14 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2004 KX250 - KX250-M2 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1993 KX500 - KX500-E5 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1996 KX250 - KX250-K3 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1998 KX500 - KX500-E10 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1998 KX250 - KX250-K5 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1998 KX125 - KX125-K5 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1999 KX125 - KX125-L1 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1997 KX500 - KX500-E9 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1994 KX125 - KX125-K1 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2004 KX500 - KX500-E16 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1997 KX125 - KX125-K4 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1999 KX500 - KX500-E11 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1999 KX250 - KX250-L1 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2000 KX500 - KX500-E12 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2000 KX250 - KX250-L2 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2002 KX125 - KX125-L4 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2003 KX250 - KX250-M1 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2003 KX500 - KX500-E15 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1997 KX250 - KX250-K4 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2001 KX125 - KX125-L3 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1995 KX500 - KX500-E7 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1994 KX250 - KX250-K1 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1996 KX500 - KX500-E8 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1995 KX125 - KX125-K2 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2005 KX125 - KX125-M3 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2001 KX250 - KX250-L3 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2001 KX500 - KX500-E13 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2004 KX125 - KX125-M2 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2003 KX125 - KX125-M1 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1992 KX500 - KX500-E4 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2000 KX125 - KX125-L2 Engine Cover(s)
Kawasaki Motorcycle 1987 KX500 - KX500-C1 ENGINE COVERS/WATER PUMP
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2005 KX250F - KX250-N2 Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2010 KX250F - KX250XAFB Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2015 KX250F - KX250ZFF Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2014 KX250F - KX250ZEF Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2004 KX250F - KX250-N1 Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2019 KX250F - KX252AKF Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2017 KX250F - KX252AHF Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2018 KX250F - KX252AJF Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2008 KX250F - KX250T8F Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2009 KX250F - KX250W9F Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2006 KX250F - KX250T6F Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2007 KX250F - KX250T7F Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2009 KX250F Monster Energy - KX250W9FA Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2012 KX250F - KX250YCF Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2013 KX250F - KX250ZDF Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2016 KX250F - KX250ZGF Water Pump
Kawasaki Motorcycle 2011 KX250F - KX250YBF Water Pump

My thought is that it will fit the earlier KX500's.
But if you want to verify, send me your clutch cover, shaft, seals, bearings, and water pump cover, and I'll check it for you.
The four stroke engine: That's one stroke for producing power and three for wearing the engine out.

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Re: KX GURU RACING MSV PHI IMPELLER TESTING ROUND 1
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2019, 03:40:55 AM »
Pretty impressive results!!!
My rides: 1994 KX500, 1988 T4, 1998, ZXI 1100 JETSKI, 2003 MOUNTAIN CAT 900
WIFES (Baby Fiver) rides: 2004 KTM 105SX,1992 LT250R, 1995 ZXI 900 JETSKI,  2011 RMK 600
SONS ride: 1995 YZ125,2002 RM 250
other rides: 2007 RMZ450 RC Ediition, 2003 RMK700

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Re: KX GURU RACING MSV PHI IMPELLER TESTING ROUND 1
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2019, 03:55:30 AM »
Will this work on pre-89 models?

You guys are bound and determined to make me work today  :-P
These models it will fit.
59256-1065

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1988 KX500 - KX500-D1 Engine Cover(s)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 2004 KX250 - KX250-M2 Engine Cover(s)


My thought is that it will fit the earlier KX500's.
But if you want to verify, send me your clutch cover, shaft, seals, bearings, and water pump cover, and I'll check it for you.
That covers me.  Even if it doesn't fit the 500, I can use it on the 250. 
Perhaps I have a dirt bike addiction?

03 KX 250/88 KX 525/2017 KX250F - Goliath
17 KX250F/04 KX250
04 KX 250 - Lunchbox's Bike
05 KX 125/144

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Re: KX GURU RACING MSV PHI IMPELLER TESTING ROUND 1
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2019, 04:08:57 AM »
I took the 50/50 out of my bike and ran the Royal Purple, Purple Ice.
I did the same experiment years ago and the results are far superior with the Purple Ice.

I get the same old reason to run waterless instead...
It won't boil over.
True, it won't boil over, your engine can run until it becomes bubbling slag on the ground and the waterless coolant won't boil.

With the Purple Ice, running a 1.8 cap you can run up to 265 f before it will boil.
If your worried about expansion, put a small reservoir on your right rad with the pickup in the bottom...
And I mean small...
I run mine hard in 100F Desert conditions... Slow speed, high RPM's... Never a issue...

But like I always say, if what you are doing works for you... Run it... Mine will just run 30F cooler than yours if not more  :-o :-D 8-)
The four stroke engine: That's one stroke for producing power and three for wearing the engine out.

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Re: KX GURU RACING MSV PHI IMPELLER TESTING ROUND 1
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2019, 04:12:54 AM »
I'm still using Purple Ice with great results, ever since you and Motorrad introduced it to the site a few years back.
Excuse me, ma'am...but you've got extremely nice legs!!!...what time do they open???                                                                                                               https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8tCgN3aryQ

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Re: KX GURU RACING MSV PHI IMPELLER TESTING ROUND 1
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2019, 06:43:51 AM »
I'm still using Purple Ice with great results, ever since you and Motorrad introduced it to the site a few years back.

What was it, 7 or 8 years ago?  :-o
My how time flies...
The four stroke engine: That's one stroke for producing power and three for wearing the engine out.

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Re: KX GURU RACING MSV PHI IMPELLER TESTING ROUND 1
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2019, 06:46:20 AM »
Lol, yeah I was thinkin after I posted that, that it was probably a loooong few years ago!
Excuse me, ma'am...but you've got extremely nice legs!!!...what time do they open???                                                                                                               https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8tCgN3aryQ