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Commercially available service offered by members of KXRiders. => Powerdynamo Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting => Topic started by: alward25 on December 02, 2010, 08:09:44 PM



Title: Crazy Al Racing's Powerdynamo Ignition/Lighting System.
Post by: alward25 on December 02, 2010, 08:09:44 PM
System offers 100 watts ac or  DC with regulator/rectfier.
Available for 88-04 models and now 86-87 models too!!
Fits behind the stock ignition cover!
Replaces all ignition components.
Comes with the following:  Flywheel, stator assembly, coil/cdi, AC regulator or DC rectifier, flywheel puller for new flywheel, all required hardware and installation instructions.
Note: Flywheel puller only fits new flywheel.
Note: This system requires a Timing dial gauge to set timing .  
Complete system suggested retail $400 without timing gauge delivered.  We ship worldwide.  Australia is about $55 extra to give you an idea.
Send payment through Paypal and be sure to include your address you would like it shipped to.
Contact me for my Paypal address.
Feel free to call me for more info @ 208-249-7152.  
Note: I am on Florida time.
Thanks!!!
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For more pics and info check out this link.
http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/alward25/library/Penton%20Powerdynamo%20System?sort=3&page=1


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: runabout on May 06, 2011, 12:39:52 PM
Welcome...
Thx for the product!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: delphipro5 on May 08, 2011, 05:30:10 PM
How much Rotating weight is added with this setup verses stock? I have a 14oz. flywheel weight on my stock ignition now. This looks like an awsome ign. system!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: alward25 on May 08, 2011, 08:51:29 PM
The flywheel weighs about 7 oz less than stock.  However,  as you can see from the pictures,  there are more pick up posts than stock.  With more magnetic material behind the flywheel it creates a greater flywheel affect.  Running in the woods I have not felt the need for a flywheel weight.  It is a far better built system than stock from what I see.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: Extreem on May 24, 2011, 06:34:34 AM
What headlight and taillight are you running in the pictures ? 

Extreem


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: alward25 on June 05, 2011, 01:02:01 PM
I am running the BD Dual 4" Fuego HID Headlights and BD LED tail light.  I also have Highway Dirtbikes LED turn signals.  It is street legal.

What headlight and taillight are you running in the pictures ? 

Extreem


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: Kiwi500 on June 06, 2011, 01:55:38 AM
I assume this is US dollars?
Whats the total cost to New Zealand, I 'm looking for a lighting set up for my KX500 at the moment.
Cheers G


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: alward25 on June 07, 2011, 10:28:01 PM
50 USD to Kiwi Land.  PM sent

Thanks

Alex


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: demographic on June 11, 2011, 07:38:40 AM
Does this system have a woodruff keyway machined into its internal taper?


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: alward25 on June 11, 2011, 08:22:27 AM
No it does not.  Timing is set with a dial indicator timing gauge.  The Stator on this system is fixed and the flywheel is the variable.  You set it piston at about 2.2 mm BTDC and then align index marks on the flywheel and stator plate, install flywheel and torque up.  An impact gun makes it real easy to set.

Does this system have a woodruff keyway machined into its internal taper?


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: Twosmokerfan on August 13, 2011, 03:24:49 PM
Yee Haa.  Finally the missing link that I have been searching for.  The KLX500 is now coming to life.  Re-winding the KX lighting coil was only gong to get me around 45 - 50 watts, so never enough.

How do I get my hands on one? Can you PM me with some details on the output as I am going to merge the KX engine, with the electrics of a KLX and make it a road registered Frankenstein here in Australia.

Thanks


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: alward25 on August 13, 2011, 10:42:07 PM
PM sent.
Thanks
Alex


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: Kiwi500 on September 05, 2011, 03:14:14 AM
Well, finally got off my A** and finished the install and kicked the ol girl over, yeah, it lives again !! Sound sweet so far, some finishing work to do. Will try and post some picks if I can work that out ?!!?! Just hearing her run again make me want to go riding !! It's been way too long.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: Twosmokerfan on September 10, 2011, 10:33:38 PM
Hi Kiwi500,
I am waiting with anticipation for some pics and details.  I am about to buy one, and just wanted your feedback (as I am sure we all are).

TSF


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: Motorrad on December 09, 2011, 09:39:53 AM
A little birdy told me that there is a optional light weight flywheel for this system...

Could be the ticket for those trying to run the old 87 ignitions .. Or pvl..


Any chance I can get a picture of the standard, and light weight flywheel next to eachother alex??  And possibly a stocker for good measure??

I'm thinking light weight one..  With a flywheel weight like my ward one..  For quick jekle Hyde setup...


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: Motorrad on December 10, 2011, 11:57:22 AM
We are talking a flywheel in the 28oz flavor btw people. ;)


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: Motorrad on December 13, 2011, 06:44:22 PM
MUST HAVE ONE.....   UNDER the christmas tree.....   Must have one...


EDIT:

after typing that..

All I could Invision was a K5 motor on a stand next to the tree.... with a MZB system....   supplying the power to all the christmas lights on the tree....

Figured Is share my sick visions with you all


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: Motorrad on December 16, 2011, 07:25:32 PM
Just found out  I was wrong.....

They light weight option is...

24oz


Sweet sweet sweet!!!

my Light weight 87 setup is  21.25oz    and I love the way it runs

cant wait

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/zap.jpg)


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: Twosmokerfan on January 07, 2012, 08:10:40 PM
Update on the ignition for everyone.

I received the ignition and flywheel with much excitement and installed it, only to find a very small issue that Alex helped me with (it isn't even worth mentioning).  Initial viewing was that it is of very high quality and is almost a work of art.  Once the issue was sorted, the install was very straight forward and easy once you have the dial gauge.  I set mine up in an old spark plug and set it at 80 thou past TDC initially.  Tried to start it and didn't want to go.  Then realised (duh!!!) that it is supposed to be "before TDC", and I set it after TDC, so it was so retarded it wouldn't run (bit like the owner in this instance).

Once that was fixed (really easy with the rattle gun and the puller supplied), the 500 started up very easily and idles better than before (just some fine tuning on the idle needed).  I re-built this engine from top to bottom (including con rod and pins) as the past owner ran it with an air filter that was falling to pieces while riding it in sandy pine forests, so you can imagine what it did to the engine.  Once I re-built it, it had troubles getting it above half revs, and I didn't want to replace electrics as I was getting the Powerdynamo set up to power the KLX ignition system.

Finally got off my backside and finished the installation and took it for a ride just before xmas and all I can say is "WOW".  It revs cleanly, lots of grunt and no smoke (I tried jetting it with the original ignition with no luck and this has now made the KX run very cleanly.

Guys, if you are wanting high powered lighting and smooth running, seriously (and I mean SERIOUSLY) consider this modification.  I cannot be happier.  I am now just about to cut up the KLX and install the 500 engin in it.  Watch out for updates.  I am keeping records for the conversion to share.

TSF


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: Motorrad on January 07, 2012, 10:56:48 PM
Exactly what I like to hear!!


I will be doing a full photo documentary on mine when it gets here


Next stop...

Fuel Injection  :evil:


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB Ignition w/ 100 watts of lighting power!
Post by: Motorrad on January 10, 2012, 10:55:10 PM


" I ran the light flywheel saturday.  Holy bike on crack!!!!"

Had to share that statement from alex..  It makes me laugh everytime I reed it...


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on April 06, 2012, 08:54:10 AM
Did you ever get the coil installed? Not that you need more to do!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on April 06, 2012, 04:12:37 PM
Just ordered the 24oz. Guess the KX500 will go motard. Should be interesting to try and plate it. The last one was telling them at the licensing dealer and signing a piece of paper. Not so easy any more here is Washington State.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on June 01, 2012, 03:42:36 PM
So much awesome..... So little time....

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/DSC_7380.jpg)


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: fumito666 on July 13, 2012, 05:11:48 AM
very good item...
but I'm wait contact a long time.

Where has seller gone? :-)


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on July 25, 2012, 09:06:16 AM
i WANT MY..... I want my..... I want my    MZB     hahahaha..


working on a nice step by step, writup on how to install a MZB..    should make it easy for anyone else..



(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/I20want20my20MTV.jpg)


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on July 25, 2012, 06:36:50 PM
Cool. Will look for that when I get mine. Would be pushing to get it but have been having other things demanding attention, so the KX5 is on the back burner. It is calling to me from under it's cover though! I need to just get out and ride it some. Soon. Soon.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on July 26, 2012, 03:59:26 PM
very good item...
but I'm wait contact a long time.

Where has seller gone? :-)


Hey Alex.  Did you handle this post/ guy.  Before I burry it with my babbling???


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: fumito666 on July 27, 2012, 04:31:25 AM
My kx500 will be completed in the MZB
I can't speak English very well....

I apologize that my poor English confused you.

sorry Alex and all



(http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii595/fumito666/2012072610480001.jpg)

(http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii595/fumito666/2012072610480002.jpg)


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on July 27, 2012, 05:26:44 PM
I moved all of our Babble about hooking up zeeltronics and servos to a new thread... found here..

so we dont take over alex's for sale post..

http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,10689.msg84554/topicseen.html#new


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on July 28, 2012, 10:25:51 PM
alex.. what batt are you running in your bike?


I just stumbled across this while looking for the smallest option for mine..

http://www.solomotoparts.com/Ballistic-Battery-EVO-2-50-Lithium-.5-lbs-Scooter/?utm_source=GoogleShopping&utm_medium=organic&zmam=92312807&zmas=1&zmac=1&zmap=48291&gclid=CLDtl42y568CFQkEQAodEFCaLg


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on August 01, 2012, 07:58:35 PM
I said Id do a writup on installing the MZB..

here is step 1...

making coil fit.

The coil that is supplied... like any penton etc kit... is a universal coil... they cant make money just making it for the K5.


here is how I made mine fit... and turned out quite nice...


1.   mark where you want to cut slots for the mount bolts.   Keeping in mind you need room for washers.

notch them..

cut it out, round sharp edges,, blah blah blah...

whala...



Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on August 01, 2012, 08:34:28 PM
OOps forgot picture attachments....   on the way


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on August 01, 2012, 08:43:52 PM
I said Id do a writup on installing the MZB..

here is step 1...

making coil fit.

The coil that is supplied... like any penton etc kit... is a universal coil... they cant make money just making it for the K5.


here is how I made mine fit... and turned out quite nice...

Forgot to take a before picture.. .so here is how it Looks before (held back together again)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/DSCN0660.jpg)


1.   mark where you want to cut slots for the mount bolts.   Keeping in mind you need room for washers.

notch them., try to make them as close to the size of the bolts as possible (Have one handy for fitment). (dremel, rat tail file, mill, space shuttle blast) what ever is easyer for you.

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/DSCN0664.jpg)

cut off excess... round the edges for that "I didnt make it in my back yard" look
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/DSCN0661.jpg)

Get a washer to use with the stock hardware (Im a large fan of A&N washers)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/DSCN0671.jpg)


(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/DSCN0674.jpg)


and if you did everything right... holes should line up
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/DSCN0665.jpg)

and whala
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/DSCN0677.jpg)


so easy a baby can do it  (with her goofy face she makes when you tell her to smile)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/DSCN0679.jpg)


whala...



Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on September 24, 2012, 12:18:25 PM
Still have not received my MZB but may be rethinking the KX5 SuMo project anyway. Popped out an umbilical hernia, now tore a hamstring muscle. This 'older age' crap is not all that fun. Might have to think about slowing down, and a streetable KX5 may not be the best thing for that. Just sayin'...
I will wait (probably) until next year to sell it as this just might be a 'downer' time, but man, this is getting old! Pun intended!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on September 28, 2012, 06:30:47 PM
Got a note from a fella that has not received his MZB yet (June) and I let him know I was still waiting (April) as well. Asked about canceling mine but will take it if it shows up. Any one else have that long of a wait?
Fired up the beast and loaded it today. Going for a ride tomorrow that may decide whether I keep the KX5 or not.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Uncle pirate on October 04, 2012, 06:57:25 PM
Hey y'all !
 Have been sitting with my own kx500 motard project on back burner awaiting an answer to the "wimpy stator issues" (that,and I've a kz900 project which takes precedence-a sub 500 mile rebuild due to too tight tolerances...what I get for trusting others to do my build-grrrr) this MZB kit seems just the ticket! Please keep us posted on availability;luckily I live in Washington state,so worse comes to worst I could always take the kz on a test run if I understand correctly that the units ship from Oregon...sorry to those of you continentally challenged! ahhhh I can see the blue haze wafting thru Georgetown now....if I can only keep tires on the beast!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on October 05, 2012, 01:24:41 PM
Talked to Alex today. Looks like Penton had some problems with the flywheel they were using but has that straigtened out and should be shipping within the next couple weeks. Not 'MZB' unit anymore. Is 'Power Dynamo' now even though the Penton site still shows MZB. Funny you have a KZ900 project. I have a KZ1000 project. You have a KX5 motard, I am putting together a KX5 motard. We both live in Western Washington... We are going to have the EPA after us with the combined blue haze! You street legaling yours?


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Uncle pirate on October 05, 2012, 08:39:01 PM
Yep,that's the plan...have you heard conformation on only needing inspection for plates? A buddy told me they had changed the law back. Thinking I might have a street set up running dual19's that way I can quickly swap back to muddin mode...front caliper might be an issue tho. The kz is a 1015 now-wanted the lighter crank for acceleration. The Wisecos help in that regard as well. We should team up and leave ground chemtrails thru Seattle!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on October 18, 2012, 11:53:11 PM
Got SOAKED at work tonight. Got home and what was waiting for me? A cute sexy LIGHTING stator and related parts! Very cool! Made the day all ok. Got to get on the KZ1000 so I can get it off the lift and get the KX5 on it to start the project. NOW I am getting cranked up!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: The Flyin Hawaiian on October 21, 2012, 08:16:27 PM
Whats the wait period for this set up? Im thinking about converting mine over.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on October 23, 2012, 11:38:58 AM
Whats the wait period for this set up? Im thinking about converting mine over.

PM alex.. he woudl know


For anyone in the future trying to diagnose any problems... here are soem stator specs. (straight from MZB themselfs)

Red-brown    500 Ohm.

white-brown 70 Ohm


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on November 07, 2012, 01:33:51 PM
I have seen a couple different specs (2.2mm and 2.4mm) on mm before TDC for these. Nothing in the instructions for Kawasaki application. Called Penton and got 2.5mm-3.0mm, which is more then suggested on this site.
My KX5 is a stock bore, has a cleaned squish and the thicker gasket that Larry suggested when I had the comp release installed. Wanted to get this out there so all who are doing one can see it.  :-D  Going to pull the KZ1000 off the hoist and do the KX5. Figured if there is a problem better to deal with it now rather then a few months from now.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on November 07, 2012, 01:46:39 PM
I have seen a couple different specs (2.2mm and 2.4mm) on mm before TDC for these. Nothing in the instructions for Kawasaki application. Called Penton and got 2.5mm-3.0mm, which is more then suggested on this site.
My KX5 is a stock bore, has a cleaned squish and the thicker gasket that Larry suggested when I had the comp release installed. Wanted to get this out there so all who are doing one can see it.  :-D  Going to pull the KZ1000 off the hoist and do the KX5. Figured if there is a problem better to deal with it now rather then a few months from now.

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/IMG_0105.jpg)


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on November 07, 2012, 01:50:59 PM
Between .086 and .090  is where you want to be..     shoot for .088  BTDC


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on November 07, 2012, 01:51:56 PM
Glad you did it in inches as I have no metrics in my 40+ year collection of dial indicators! Makes it so I do not have to convert it! Thanks!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on November 07, 2012, 01:57:47 PM
Glad you did it in inches as I have no metrics in my 40+ year collection of dial indicators! Makes it so I do not have to convert it! Thanks!

I HATE HATE  the metric system..    

"The metric system is the tool of the devil. My car gets fourty rods to the hogs head and that's the way I likes it!"  -Grandpa Simpson

Did you see my follow up post of the range you want?

.086-.090


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on November 07, 2012, 05:52:37 PM
I always have a convertor handy.  England forced the standard system upon in colonial times and it stuck.  They do not use it anymore.  It is as obsolete as a K5 ignition system :-D

Alex


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on November 07, 2012, 10:27:04 PM
I did see it. 2.2 mm! Oops! I mean .086 to .090.  :-D  I actually like the metric system even though I have used fractional for machining for a whole lot of years. Not inclined to pick up any more precision tools unless I have to. Not using them much these days. Asked the wife the other day why I have so many tools if I am not inclined to even do work on my own vehicles these days. Two different places I worked at had us take all our own tools home and bought master sets with controlled tools. Got at least three large sets of tools, have three tool boxes, SnapOn top and bottom, SnapOn flat top, Mack flat top. Need to pare down, but can not seem to let go of any of them.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on November 10, 2012, 11:45:28 PM
Sitting here infused with expensive Scotch and Jagermeister I am a little disappointed in my days work. Gave away 650 sheets of plastic to make room in my shop for more bikes. Moved it out of the shop but it ends up just more of a mess! Crap! Want to get the KZ off the hoist and get the KZ5 on but just ended up just moving a lot of stuff around. Well, I did give away the plastic, but it still did not make as much of a dent as I wanted. Going to pick up more Kawi parts tomorrow but resisted the urge to pick up the entire bike. Got to draw the line some where! Want to get on the stator lighting conversion.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Larry Wiechman on November 11, 2012, 10:05:58 AM

 2.2mm or .0866 is 16.18? BTDC on a KX500.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit. (Regulator/Rectifier)
Post by: wardro on November 16, 2012, 09:18:52 PM
I have installed the kit, bike runs great, however, I'm having a problem with the lighting/charging.  Does anyone have any suggestions/wiring diagram for the regulator/rectifier   Mine has five wires, 2 black, 1 red, 1 brown, 1 red/green

Does the two black wires connect to the two black wires from the stator?  If so, does it matter which black wire from the stator connect to a specific black wire on the regulator/rectifier?
Does the red wire go to the battery?
Does the brown wire go to ground?
What purpose is the red/green wire?

Thanks in advance.
Ron




Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on November 17, 2012, 08:16:35 AM
Brown ground
red battery
2 black from stator go 2 black on reg
red/green not used

so Ac power comes out of stator to reg ( black wires) comes out of reg/rec as DC through red to battery/ brown to ground.  red/green not used

Hope it helps
Alex


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on December 08, 2012, 06:31:04 PM
FINALLY got the KX5 on the lift after hernia surgery three weeks ago and everything being put on hold. Loaned my flywheel puller to someone (not on here) and can not remember who. Name is not in my 'Loaned Tool' notebook either. Looking forward to lighting up the beast!

(http://i48.tinypic.com/30kwwg5.jpg)


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on January 01, 2013, 04:16:21 PM
Got to ask. Did you guys that did the 100 watt conversion take a mirror and flashlight and check tank to coil clearance? I just finished installing the stator, timed (.088) the flywheel, cut off the tab on the coil, and put two slots in mount. After installing it and the tank, I took a look and the coil is hitting the tank on the inside right, and has less then .250 (1/4?) on the other side. I am running the stock tank. I have room to put more slots in the coil mount, but may end up making a wedge to put under the coil to angle it a bit and put a separate ground wire on it just to be sure it is grounded well. I am wondering if the aftermarket tanks have more room under them between the frame and tank?


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on January 01, 2013, 05:14:29 PM
It did not hit my Zip-Ty.  Good info, thanks for the heads up for future installations.

Alex


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on January 01, 2013, 07:33:28 PM
I put in another set of slots and ?massaged? the bracket to get about 1/8?-3/16? on both sides. The bracket is VERY soft. I am a little worried about vibration moving it around to where it rubs the tank. Tempted to remove the rivets and make a new bracket, but will try it first and watch for rubbing. Getting excited to try it!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on February 07, 2013, 05:41:39 PM
Called Penton today and they have a new, smaller, less weight regulator for the system. Ordered one ($106) and it should be here in a few days. Will post a side by side pic when I get it. The one included was a bit 'clunky', so I hope this one is mo betta. Sun came out today so got excited about getting going on it!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on February 12, 2013, 09:52:39 AM
Here is the newest style of regulator. Not sure if this is the one they are shipping with the kits now, or if it is just an option to purchase. I wanted to make a plate with countersunk screws from the backside and mount it on the gooseneck, but am not sure it will lay flat enough for the forks to clear. The wires coming out the top instead of the end or side surprised me a bit. Only because I did not expect it.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/x2qveq.jpg)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2rqbrsp.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2e1rq0j.jpg)


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on February 12, 2013, 10:19:46 AM
Yup, That is the new one.  Looks sweet!!!!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on February 12, 2013, 10:32:46 AM
Yup, That is the new one.  Looks sweet!!!!

d**n... wish I had one of those.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on February 17, 2013, 01:57:26 PM
Dig this! Perfect fit! The lower bracket ear just clears the upper radiator mount. If the regulator ever got loose it would be blocked from falling off by it. Nice! Regulator fits right in the supports for the old EFI. Could put in another screw if I want. Forks clear. I am happy. I will mount the battery in foam under the head mount bracket, leaving the air box open for the deep breathing cylinder. I am going to remount the coil/EFI unit as I am just not happy with the room it has or the bracket the way it is now.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2n6rx54.jpg)

Pulled my duel headlight Acerbis out and it is NOT a DOT approved one. CRAP! Looks like I will be buying an enduro kit from ProCycle and keeping my flush mount turn signals for another bike. Yes, I am over my 'funk'.  :evil: At least for now!  :wink:


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on February 17, 2013, 02:16:24 PM
I like it!!!!!!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: USMC 500 on March 07, 2013, 08:09:49 PM
Chuck Norris produces 100 watts of power by rubbing his hands together for warmth....... :-D

By the way, I'm still in love with my MZB.........Those who ride my bike all say "I can't believe how crisp and perfect the power is"....


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: SHLEPY on March 07, 2013, 08:40:02 PM
Chuck Norris died in this weeks holocaust  :-P


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: USMC 500 on March 07, 2013, 08:44:00 PM
Chuck Norris died in this weeks holocaust  :-P

When Chuck Norris dies, he does it to go to hell to pick a fight and to go to heaven to give advice to the big guy...... :-D


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on March 09, 2013, 11:43:26 PM
Chuck aside  :-o  I finally got the Hot Tweezers, Soldering Station and Heat Gun out today and wired the MZB/PD unit up. Thinking I will make a mount on the front forks and put the little battery behind the front headlight unit. Happy with it so far. Next is all the turn, tail, brake wiring and parts. Well, got to order them first! Doing a refi on the house, so may wait until that is done. New 42.5* bracket I made for the coil/EEC unit gives me 1/4" on both sides under the tank. I am happy!
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2u4ngqc.jpg)



Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: USMC 500 on March 10, 2013, 08:22:48 AM
Lookin good......is there any reason you made that bracket instead of mounting directly to the stock mounting area?


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on March 10, 2013, 10:15:12 AM
I tried bending the bracket on the coil/EEC unit and did not get enough clearance under the stock tank to make me happy. The bracket seemed pretty soft so I was worried about it moving and wearing on the tank. Put a heat sink between the unit and the new bracket and spot welded it to a cut and trimmed piece off an old BBQ, letting it cool between welds. Nice and solid now. May cut the bottom off later as it is a little long, or just may leave it.  :-P  Was going to run the lighting wires on the other side but am not sure now. May not look like this when it is done and done.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Charlie500 on March 12, 2013, 07:51:02 AM
When will they be making these to the 250's?


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on March 12, 2013, 08:49:34 AM
Just need some parts to see if we can make it happen.  LH case half and LH crank half.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Charlie500 on March 12, 2013, 10:09:40 AM
Just need some parts to see if we can make it happen.  LH case half and LH crank half.

I wonder if someone in here has something they can donate.... I would love to have this kit for my 2004 KX 250.... I like running heated grips and lights...


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: sandblaster on March 12, 2013, 10:53:52 AM
I'm all out.....  :cry:


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: don46 on March 12, 2013, 11:47:30 AM
So, the problem as I see it, the late model KX's have a 3d ignition and that is what contributes to the performance. it would be expensive to change over to something like the MZB. if you were willing to give up some performance you could use an ignition off a KDX 250, or the older Tecate 250 3 wheeler, it would be everything flywheel, stator, cdi, wiring, the whole thing.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Charlie500 on March 12, 2013, 12:23:17 PM
So, the problem as I see it, the late model KX's have a 3d ignition and that is what contributes to the performance. it would be expensive to change over to something like the MZB. if you were willing to give up some performance you could use an ignition off a KDX 250, or the older Tecate 250 3 wheeler, it would be everything flywheel, stator, cdi, wiring, the whole thing.

I guess I'll see how well the steelie stator works out. I need it most just for heated grips


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: don46 on March 12, 2013, 01:59:52 PM
You are a brute, I'm too much of a wimpt to ride when its cold, I have a hard time convincing myself to ride my snowmobile when its to cold, I have become a fair weather rider bike and sled, must be a sign of age.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: USMC 500 on March 12, 2013, 07:57:33 PM
Hey Alex.......did I mention how much the MZB rocks!!  My bike runs smoother than a babies behind wearing a silk diaper. :-D


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on April 02, 2013, 12:22:45 AM
Just went back through this thread to see what battery you guys are running. I looked at a few different ones today, but was not happy with the size. I guess I could run without, but I think it would be better to at least have a small amount of battery back up. Thought it was discussed, but maybe a different thread?


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on April 02, 2013, 12:24:44 AM
Where would you like to mount it?  I will see what I can find.

Alex

Just went back through this thread to see what battery you guys are running. I looked at a few different ones today, but was not happy with the size. I guess I could run without, but I think it would be better to at least have a small amount of battery back up. Thought it was discussed, but maybe a different thread?


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on April 02, 2013, 12:31:42 AM
Just went back through this thread to see what battery you guys are running. I looked at a few different ones today, but was not happy with the size. I guess I could run without, but I think it would be better to at least have a small amount of battery back up. Thought it was discussed, but maybe a different thread?

im running a baja designs  style pack.   (not one of theirs though. there is better ones).

its pretty much a 10 pack of AA batts.    rechargable of course (NIMH)..    very small.. and works for what I do.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on April 02, 2013, 12:32:39 AM
Found the thread. It is a small sealed lead acid battery. I looked at one like it today and will probably pick one up tomorrow. Thanks though! Been hard to find moto-vation this year. All my projects are waiting for me to get them done...


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on April 07, 2013, 12:55:52 AM
New tax season price! Price good through August!  Let's get the night or street lite up!!!

Alex


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on May 28, 2013, 01:11:20 PM
All work stopped on the KX5 last month as I was getting the wife's track bike prepped and ready to go. Then a "friend" gave me a 1982 KX1100 that had the Mikuni 34's on it that I wanted for my 1979 KZ1000. Then I noticed the back steps to the yard were rotting out. Then... I may get back to it this year!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: NCwoods on June 16, 2013, 10:42:58 AM
How is this better than a stock ignition? I don't doubt that it is, but can someone explain it scientifically? What makes it generates more spark power, what makes it more realiable? I thought stock systems are supposed to be pretty good? This is half the price of stock parts, I'm not interested in lights yet, but maybe a fan. I had a new in box cdi be the root of my problems, and I am looking for an upgrade, just seeing if this was it?

Tanks.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: ID KX500 on June 16, 2013, 11:12:51 AM
PM sent to you Alward


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on June 16, 2013, 11:39:21 AM
How is this better than a stock ignition? I don't doubt that it is, but can someone explain it scientifically? What makes it generates more spark power, what makes it more realiable? I thought stock systems are supposed to be pretty good? This is half the price of stock parts, I'm not interested in lights yet, but maybe a fan. I had a new in box cdi be the root of my problems, and I am looking for an upgrade, just seeing if this was it?

Tanks.

PM sent
Thanks


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: RPMWFO on August 14, 2013, 08:12:16 PM
PM sent on pricing and availability.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on August 14, 2013, 08:29:26 PM
Thanks, PM sent


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on August 14, 2013, 09:23:33 PM
Thanks, PM sent

Pm sent on how fawking awesome mzb is for the pricing


Title: Re: Powerdynamo MZB ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: skunkworks on August 17, 2013, 10:49:26 AM
alex.. what batt are you running in your bike?


I just stumbled across this while looking for the smallest option for mine..

http://www.solomotoparts.com/Ballistic-Battery-EVO-2-50-Lithium-.5-lbs-Scooter/?utm_source=GoogleShopping&utm_medium=organic&zmam=92312807&zmas=1&zmac=1&zmap=48291&gclid=CLDtl42y568CFQkEQAodEFCaLg

sorry i just got on this !!! DO NOT BUY A BALLISTIC BATTERY UNLESS YOU LIKE BEING STRANDED....FAR FROM HOME......TWICE.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: RPMWFO on October 17, 2013, 09:55:32 PM
PM sent.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: SHLEPY on October 18, 2013, 09:47:18 PM
How is this better than a stock ignition? I don't doubt that it is, but can someone explain it scientifically? What makes it generates more spark power, what makes it more realiable? I thought stock systems are supposed to be pretty good? This is half the price of stock parts, I'm not interested in lights yet, but maybe a fan. I had a new in box cdi be the root of my problems, and I am looking for an upgrade, just seeing if this was it?

Tanks.

Well I do have to say the bikes I have seen with Mr Wards goods do rev more then mine being a stock 1990 a lot more crisp and responsive you would be amazed at the diff and when I have the cash I will be getting one my self and this is all from first hand experience not here say.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: RPMWFO on November 01, 2013, 03:40:58 PM
PM sent again...


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Sharky74 on November 06, 2013, 07:17:16 PM
Can it be timed without the dial indicator by trial and error? It is the "one time" use tool a must? I am debating the upgrade. How much to ship to 99801?


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on November 06, 2013, 07:21:03 PM
PM sent again...

did alward ever get back to you?   he has been a busy man.    if he hasnt Ill put a word in his ear to check his PM's


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: bigred on December 16, 2013, 08:49:01 PM
Newly rebuilt motor with powerdynamo ignition (timed at 90,000 BTC), Smart carb, Pinsonnault 524 bigbore ported, all new bearings and seals, new connecting rod and bearings. When it finally starts (50 Kicks Occasional light backfire every 10 kicks) it runs sounds and idles awesome. Do you think 90,000 is to far advanced?


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: ylwgtr on December 17, 2013, 12:51:57 AM
50 kicks!!!!!!sheesh....by the time you get that badboy going it would be time to pack up and go home.....besides that i know i couldnt be riding after 50 kicks!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: bigred on December 17, 2013, 08:11:40 AM
no snow biking till it starts like it should
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=765994796750235&set=oa.795999973748622&type=3&theater)


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on February 02, 2014, 01:00:04 PM
Re-posted pics on first page. .090" is a little too retarded. .086"-.088" it starts better.  Sorry I did not see the post until now.  Hope this helps


Alex


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on February 04, 2014, 05:20:06 PM
Re-posted pics on first page. .090" is a little too retarded. .086"-.088" it starts better.  Sorry I did not see the post until now.  Hope this helps


Alex

where "M" motors are set at

starts good, lugs good, revs good

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/IMG_0105.jpg)


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on May 15, 2014, 12:54:32 PM
Updated price!!!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: vagassasson on July 10, 2014, 09:09:10 PM
So I just have to ask what does this thing ride like with the lightweight version?


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: queen of spodes on September 08, 2014, 08:52:14 PM
Any luck with the 1985 models?


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on September 08, 2014, 09:10:05 PM
We have done them for 86-87, I am almost positive 85 is the same.  Just need to double check...Sandblaster, I need u to double check for me :lol:


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: sandblaster on September 08, 2014, 09:31:55 PM
Find me a cheap 85 to buy and I'm on it  :-D


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: idaho_nate on September 12, 2014, 10:00:49 PM
Hey Bigred-

Did you ever get your starting issued resolved?  Would like to put one of these in my KX/ Timbersled with a smartcarb but it has to start easy in the snow or it's a no go.



Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on September 12, 2014, 10:08:23 PM
I have not heard either way, but I do know he had his timing way off.  If he had any further issue I hope I would have known.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: dan580,95 moto on December 21, 2014, 06:05:42 PM
just a thought, before i go buy this product, and only a thought as i reckon this product is 100% brilliant to have a proper charging circuit on a k5, has anyone had a problem with the flywheel slipping on the crank once set up and putting the timing out as this kit has no woodruff key, my older k5 once sheared the woodruff key and it took me ages to suss out the problem as had a spark , fuel etc,


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: sandblaster on December 21, 2014, 06:22:56 PM
Mine is working perfectly...
Here is how I did mine:
http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=543 (http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=543)


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on December 21, 2014, 06:56:45 PM
I have not heard of any of the ones I have sold slipping.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Motorrad on December 21, 2014, 07:09:06 PM
Mine hasn't slipped.  And my bike taps 12k


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Brute on December 21, 2014, 09:17:51 PM
Mine has not slipped but does not rev to 12K!!!! As has been mentioned before: the 'key' does not 'hold' the flywheel, it just makes it easier to set the timing in a production situation. The taper is what holds the flywheel to the crankshaft.
I believe my KX500 started on the second kick after sitting for months while I did the 'street legal' conversion including the MZB. Starts easier, runs better. Revs REALLY quick with the light flywheel set up on the street. Good strong lights.
If I did the conversion again, which I would not  do : ), I would use the MZB again.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: RoostiusMaximus on December 22, 2014, 09:04:21 AM
You're right, it doesn't hold it. having said that I've sneezed a Cr500 while kicking it and sheared the crank key. Kinda neat if you hit it just right it'll run backwards  :roll:


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: sandblaster on December 22, 2014, 09:30:48 AM
When did you realize it was running backwards, before or after you let off the clutch?  :-D


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: dan580,95 moto on December 23, 2014, 04:13:31 AM
ok thanks guys really appreciate it, got to wait till i get a few more bits together then will sort the purchase out. like most my builds new parts sit around for ages till i fit them. my kx5 is going into the 3rd year of its full restoration coz I'm so anal polishing and painting every nut or bolt and replacing every chipped or scratched part lol.
ps this product is what i was looking for  10 years ago on a 1989 to road register but gave up.
top work


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Larry Wiechman on December 23, 2014, 06:24:07 PM

 Al, what are the specs for the advance/retard curve?

Thanks,
Larry


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on December 23, 2014, 08:28:21 PM

 Al, what are the specs for the advance/retard curve?

Thanks,
Larry

As far as I know when Service Kawasaki did a dyno run with it they said the curve was almost the same as stock and they liked it.  They said they would send it to me but I have to check if they did.  I will also ask Penton if they have this spec.

Here is what I found....

3/11/11
[Keep this message at the top of your inbox]
To: ALEX WARD
Hi Alex,

 we need to do  a more accurate runs with the timing played with.
the loss on top i'm convinced was all from being just a tad retarded, ..

We just did a quickie to see if it matched the stock curve closely and it did..
I'd hate to take much more info from that particular run that..
as it was not  intended at that  moment for anything else and we dint delve into it.
we certainly wernt looking at the actual hp numbers /just the shape of the curve comparing torque /hp - rpm
verses  stock curve.

I'll try and scan you in some copies ,but as i said i wouldn't use the actual number at all,,
 i made no attempt in setting the dyno for truly accurate numbers
so even the stock ign run wouldnt mean anything others than it's "shape'
i just used it as a diagnostic machine  to see a match (or not)

if anything it showed  that its exactly the same if timing is set..
and likely if advanced would gain half a horse.(but might alter the curve some,same as advancing  a stocker)
 
I do need to get another KX500 set up like that,  and run more tests ,we simply havnt had time to get back to
the dyno,and the set we bought i put on a customers KX500AFX for some real world testing ,so far he loves it.
:)

AJ

Thanks
Alex


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: splatter on July 02, 2015, 12:05:15 PM
did anyone ever find out if the kit fits kx250? (1996) :-)


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on July 02, 2015, 12:21:05 PM
Do not have one set up yet for the KX 250 yet.  On my list of things to do.

Alex


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: 1901306708 on July 17, 2015, 07:55:10 PM
man i sure wish i would have found this info two days ago!

been on the dyno two days. nothing working. everything too rich. different carbs...all sorts of stuff.

fiiiiiiiinaly started cranking up the timing. after alot of guess work and reading some german translated to english, the numbers started coming up.

i'll go measure tomorrow, but i bet i ended up right around where you suggest. every time we increased the advance, the numbers got much stronger.

before we started, it looks like mine was set about 1/2 way between tdc and what you advise here. roughly. gained over 10 so far, and tq like crazy.

i can tell y'all where the best numbers are at when we're done.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on July 17, 2015, 08:29:06 PM
Great News!!!  We will all be waiting!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: 1901306708 on July 17, 2015, 08:39:31 PM
what is the farthest advanced you've run it, or heard of anyone going?

also, the measurements you give, are you talking vertical or in the same plane as the plug hole. ie if you had a dial gauge threaded into the sparkplug hole, its not travelling vertical but at the same angle the plug sits.

i don't have one of those fancy setups so i'm just using the end of a caliper held vertical in the plug hole


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on July 17, 2015, 09:18:24 PM
Spend the $40 on ebay to get the good one, it will be more consistent,  The first time I did not have one and used calipers and held it square on the the hole, it took longer to get right than if I had just bought the right tool.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PVL-ENGINE-IGNITION-TIMING-TDC-DIAL-INDICATOR-POLARIS-14mm-SPARK-PLUG-THREAD-/161755672671?hash=item25a963b05f&vxp=mtr


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: 1901306708 on July 17, 2015, 09:32:09 PM
not going to get it by tomorrow am unfortunately. after that, back to work and done playing.

any insight as to how far anyone has run advanced, or if you're talking vertical or the same plane as the plug hole?


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: sandblaster on July 17, 2015, 10:05:00 PM
Spend the $40 on ebay to get the good one, it will be more consistent,  The first time I did not have one and used calipers and held it square on the the hole, it took longer to get right than if I had just bought the right tool.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PVL-ENGINE-IGNITION-TIMING-TDC-DIAL-INDICATOR-POLARIS-14mm-SPARK-PLUG-THREAD-/161755672671?hash=item25a963b05f&vxp=mtr

I bought one... Last time I made my own.
It worked fine but this is too sweet to pass up  8-)


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: dave916 on July 18, 2015, 03:26:24 AM
Spend the $40 on ebay to get the good one, it will be more consistent,  The first time I did not have one and used calipers and held it square on the the hole, it took longer to get right than if I had just bought the right tool.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PVL-ENGINE-IGNITION-TIMING-TDC-DIAL-INDICATOR-POLARIS-14mm-SPARK-PLUG-THREAD-/161755672671?hash=item25a963b05f&vxp=mtr

I bought one... Last time I made my own.
It worked fine but this is too sweet to pass up  8-)

Made in china :-)


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: sandblaster on July 18, 2015, 07:34:54 PM
And you know how I love buying junk from China  :-o


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: 1901306708 on July 18, 2015, 09:29:40 PM
so the best we found was at 20.45 deg BTDC. A peak of 78, and over 70 from 7500-8500rpm. very strong.  measuring along the circumference of the rotor, its 22.5mm from the factory mark. did some math and figured out every 1.1mm is 1 degree .

going back to 2.2mm / 16.2 deg / 17.8mm you're down about 6hp over a 1000rpm range.

at 1.5mm / 13.3 deg / 14.6mm youre way off the mark. down over 10.

it will barely run when its set at TDC

didn't advance any more than 20.45 deg. thought we had gained enough. we likely could have though.

This is running c12, checking plugs, fuel flow, egts. all that good stuff. use at your own risk. Mine's staying at 20.45 though.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on July 18, 2015, 09:38:02 PM
Dimension BTDC?  When u get a chance.  Great info!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: 1901306708 on July 18, 2015, 09:52:35 PM
my math says 3.49mm (vertical, draw some triangles and sort out correction for the plug being on an angle if you like)

can you get the timing curve for these things? would sure be handy to know if you could find out.

especially for a guy who got you all this good info!


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on July 18, 2015, 10:15:17 PM
I will see what I can do.  That number would not work if using a timing dial indicator.  It would be way too retarded.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: 1901306708 on August 13, 2015, 08:23:00 PM
were you able to get the actual timing curve?


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Dirty907 on November 07, 2015, 02:52:53 PM
Still have these setups for sale? Looking into streeting my 94 k5.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: alward25 on November 07, 2015, 03:42:41 PM
Yes sir.


Title: Re: Powerdynamo Ignition/ 100 watt lighting kit.
Post by: Speedway73 on December 28, 2015, 12:54:11 PM
Was it ever determined if this system would work on both the KX250 and the '86/'87 Tecate 250?


Title: Re: Penton Racing Powerdynamo Ignition Lighting Ignition System.
Post by: alward25 on March 03, 2016, 12:05:15 PM
Speedway,

I need to send in a LH case half, crank, and ignition cover to see if is doable. If you have the parts, we can arrange to send them in. 

Thanks

Alex


Title: Re: Penton Racing Powerdynamo Ignition Lighting Ignition System.
Post by: b4himdude on August 18, 2016, 03:00:12 PM
Wow. All I needed to do was scroll down the home page and there's my answer. That stator looks a lot like the ones on the Honda xr400. It's a touch out of my pricerange at the moment . But, at least now I know what I'm looking for. ALRIGHT!


Title: Re: Penton Racing Powerdynamo Ignition Lighting Ignition System.
Post by: zz3gmc on February 10, 2017, 08:20:56 PM
Really thinking about going this route. Is the price still $450? How much is the reg/rec to run a battery? How would I go about ordering, I didnt see anything at the beginning of the post. Is it readily available?