KX Riders
Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: littlewing78 on November 19, 2011, 05:31:56 PM
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I broke my second kick starter last weekend. I didn't want to pay $100 for a new one right now so I decided to make one.
I bought a long socket wrench for 10 bucks and used a socket that I already had. 16 mm socket is about the perfect size. The wrench handle is very tough so I don't think it will bend too easily. Not quite finished yet but I think its going to work fine for a bit.
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not bad....my only concern is,did you have to heat the wrench/metal up to bend and form it into shape?.....I'm not 100% sure,but that may have weakened the metal substantially....good luck,and use alot of care on those first initial kicks.
I know if it were me,I'd dish out the money for a new one,and keep the home-made one for emergency use only.....just my thoughts.
Foxx
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I made one of a socket wrench when I was waiting for a new one, seemed rock solid, but after about 20 starts it bended.. I think you may have to harden the steel some way to make it last.
looks good though, Im sure it will last longer then mine :-D
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I did have to heat it up to bend it. I knew it would weaken it. This is just a temporary fix until I get another one. Why waste an opportunity to make something though. I enjoy it.
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I may not know much, but this I do know.
Heat it in the oven to about 400 and let it cool on its own.
Just let it sit in there a while then turn it off and come back in an hour or two.
It should help.
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I broke my second kick starter last weekend. I didn't want to pay $100 for a new one right now so I decided to make one.
I bought a long socket wrench for 10 bucks and used a socket that I already had. 16 mm socket is about the perfect size. The wrench handle is very tough so I don't think it will bend too easily. Not quite finished yet but I think its going to work fine for a bit.
I admire your efforts, but there is NO way I would trust a "home made" fabricated kick lever for a KX500. When you weld and or heat metal you drastically change the metal's compasition. Spending $100 on a new kick lever is hard to justify, but ask yourself how much your right ankle worth ?
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I broke my second kick starter last weekend. I didn't want to pay $100 for a new one right now so I decided to make one.
I bought a long socket wrench for 10 bucks and used a socket that I already had. 16 mm socket is about the perfect size. The wrench handle is very tough so I don't think it will bend too easily. Not quite finished yet but I think its going to work fine for a bit.
I admire your efforts, but there is NO way I would trust a "home made" fabricated kick lever for a KX500. When you weld and or heat metal you drastically change the metal's compasition. Spending $100 on a new kick lever is hard to justify, but ask yourself how much your right is worth ?
+1, Great effort but how much would it cost IF it snapped in medical bills.....time missed from work.....& the most important, another reason for the little lady to complain about "Those DA_N Bikes"
Just my $.02
DoldGuy
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I am going to buy another kick starter. This is just to get me by in the mean time. I have already snapped two levers so I am kind of used to that. I wouldn't even think of kicking it over without a boot on. I still have scars on my shin from when I first got the bike. I will try and temper the steel when I am done.
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something like that would be OK if you had something like a kx60 or one of those little h**da Z50s
but NOT a kx500 . for obvious reasons
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Maybe there is something wrong with your motor that you keep breaking kick starters? I'm not very knowledgeable with these but i'd probably try to retard the timing a touch. I'm sure some smarter guys could point you in the right direction. I just have a hard time believing that you had two defective kickers.
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Maybe there is something wrong with your motor that you keep breaking kick starters? I'm not very knowledgeable with these but i'd probably try to retard the timing a touch. I'm sure some smarter guys could point you in the right direction. I just have a hard time believing that you had two defective kickers.
If you stall it out,and then try to start it in gear,it really puts ALOT more strain on the kicker.....always try to put it in neutral first....that's if your kickers are breaking while you're trying to start it in gear.
Foxx
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If you try to start a K5 like a 125 (because you don't know the trick/secrect to starting it) you probably would go thru kick starters. (not saying you don't know how to start it)
But I have never had a KX, any kx (250s or 500s) that didn't want the stroke just past TDC, from the very top. Also I try real hard not to bottom the kicker out on the footpeg/mount this is where most damage happens. Never try in gear either unless racing kick it once if it doesn't fire find neutral and kick it again.
After 22years of riding/racing Kxs this is what I found out, I hope it helps some out there.
The comp release mod will help alot with kick starter problems also. My spare K5 has had the mod done to it, I was amazed how easy it is to start now.
Bob W
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I usually do start in neutral. Both starters that I broke were pretty old. One was from 99 and the other was from 92. The last one broke on cold morning. Right before a race of course. I can usually get it started in no more than 4 kicks. When its warmed up one kick usually does it. I think bottoming out is part of my problem. Thanks.
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you need an updated kicker!!....one on the left is the new beefier kicker.Part# is 13064-1201....I got mine from MidWestActionCycle.com a little cheaper than your Kawie dealer and IT IS a Kawie kicker.
Foxx
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A local guy is parting out an 87 KX 500. Any body know if that kick starter will fit my 99 KX 500?
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yep.K.
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i assume you guys in the states have lazer cutting?? i have some 20mm ali sheet at work i was thinking of getting a blank cut out and fabing from there as my 250s not far off snapping at some point ...might be worth a shot??
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i assume you guys in the states have lazer cutting?? i have some 20mm ali sheet at work i was thinking of getting a blank cut out and fabing from there as my 250s not far off snapping at some point ...might be worth a shot??
i think the oem k start is forged or cast with some kind of heat treatment. im not sure if the sheet ali would be strong enough for the k5. from what i can see the problem with the stock kicker is the stop wears at the point ware it touches the the steel part at the bottom. this causes the k start to over extend, concentrating the load on small area of the ring part causing it to snap. if i was going to make a kicker i would have a changable part the that could be swaped when it is worn. hope that makes sense
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Has anyone snapped a new updated kicker yet???....I'm sure eventually it will happen,just wondering if anyone has yet.
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I ordered a new one tonight. The homemade one will probably travel with me though just in case.
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I ordered a new one tonight. The homemade one will probably travel with me though just in case.
If you carry it with you. It will insure that you will never need it again. :-D
Bob W
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i assume you guys in the states have lazer cutting?? i have some 20mm ali sheet at work i was thinking of getting a blank cut out and fabing from there as my 250s not far off snapping at some point ...might be worth a shot??
i think the oem k start is forged or cast with some kind of heat treatment. im not sure if the sheet ali would be strong enough for the k5. from what i can see the problem with the stock kicker is the stop wears at the point ware it touches the the steel part at the bottom. this causes the k start to over extend, concentrating the load on small area of the ring part causing it to snap. if i was going to make a kicker i would have a changable part the that could be swaped when it is worn. hope that makes sense
yeah they always break at the same point , the ali is actualy 25mm thick should be like billet material it should be stronger than the stock as the stocks cast,not sure if the standard kicker is annealed or not.the ali we use is a different type not standard 1050 grade so alot stronger