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Maintenance & Technical => KX450F / KX250F => Topic started by: alan on November 15, 2011, 05:44:04 AM

Title: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: alan on November 15, 2011, 05:44:04 AM
I would love to have a 2012 KX450F, But I really want to have Electric Starter!  At 66 I have just about worn out my right hip kicking monster dirt bikes for the past 50 years!
I keep hoping Kawasaki will come out with a 450 like the WR450. It seems that Kawasaki is always lagging behind the curve! So I was wondering if any has come up with a kit to retrofit a electric starter?

Alan
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: weymouth399 on November 15, 2011, 06:00:34 AM
You can still buy 08-09 KLX450s as left overs pretty cheap. It's Kawi's step into the 4 smoke with a button bikes. Then hotrod that if you want more.
Trying to get the jetting on mine dialed in now, the ice season is soon.

Bob W
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: ID KX500 on November 16, 2011, 02:51:10 AM
Yes Alan, I agree Kawasaki is way behind. I see where they have a KLX450R for Australia for 2012, but not here in the U.S.. I believe they could have sold more KLXs if they were more cutting edge such as being the first to offer EFI. I think Suzuki had the first EFI in the 450 off-road market now I see Yamaha with it in the new WR and I really like the looks of it in the new frame.

CRF450X seems to dominate this market of the Asian companies. The underpowered KLX250 dual sport seems to be their only commitment right now.

Have you kicked a KX450? It aint bad, I can start my 09 with a tennis shoe. Might fit you better than you think.

                                    http://www.bikesales.com.au/new/kawasaki/klx450r/2012/
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: alan on November 16, 2011, 06:26:53 AM
Thanks! I was reading on the Kawasaki site, that some of the changes for 2012 are related to easier starting!

? Revis? Revised shape of kickstart ratchet enables lever to return to start position more smoothly
? Strong output from the large ACG rotor provides enough electrical power for the battery-less FI system to enable true one-kick starting without using a battery
? Equipped with an automatic compression release (ACR) system for quick and easy starting. The dual-weight centrifugal decompression system is fitted to the exhaust cam
? Compression release features 1.0mm of valve lift, to minimize the required kicking power

 Anyone have both KX5 and KX450, I would like to know how they compare starting both hot and cold?
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: The Flyin Hawaiian on November 16, 2011, 10:38:53 AM
The KLX wasnt a hot seller here, thats why theres tons of leftovers. Ive seen them for as little as 3995! The RMX450 was released then held back because of some dumb emmisions related crap from the EPA. Some dealers never got them, especially here on the East Coast. Ive seen them for sale on CraigsList though. It seems that the WR450 and CRF450X sell ok. The KTM450EXC sell better due to them being essentially a "barely" street legal race bike that is taggable from the factory. I dont think the 9 grand price is worth it though. I would think a leftover KLX450 would fit the bill quite nicely especially at a great price.
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: ID KX500 on November 16, 2011, 02:47:47 PM
Thanks! I was reading on the Kawasaki site, that some of the changes for 2012 are related to easier starting!

? Revis? Revised shape of kickstart ratchet enables lever to return to start position more smoothly
? Strong output from the large ACG rotor provides enough electrical power for the battery-less FI system to enable true one-kick starting without using a battery
? Equipped with an automatic compression release (ACR) system for quick and easy starting. The dual-weight centrifugal decompression system is fitted to the exhaust cam
? Compression release features 1.0mm of valve lift, to minimize the required kicking power

 Anyone have both KX5 and KX450, I would like to know how they compare starting both hot and cold?


I have both and the KX5 is harder to kick hot or cold.
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: don46 on November 17, 2011, 05:42:01 AM
Thanks! I was reading on the Kawasaki site, that some of the changes for 2012 are related to easier starting!

? Revis? Revised shape of kickstart ratchet enables lever to return to start position more smoothly
? Strong output from the large ACG rotor provides enough electrical power for the battery-less FI system to enable true one-kick starting without using a battery
? Equipped with an automatic compression release (ACR) system for quick and easy starting. The dual-weight centrifugal decompression system is fitted to the exhaust cam
? Compression release features 1.0mm of valve lift, to minimize the required kicking power

 Anyone have both KX5 and KX450, I would like to know how they compare starting both hot and cold?


I have both as well, the K5 has a compression release, even so the 450 is loads easier to start, I have both a 2011 and a 2012, both start easy and kick over easy. I think the 12 has more over rev than the 11 but not appreciable.
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: alan on November 17, 2011, 06:35:40 AM
Thanks Guys!

Santa may bring me a 12 450F for Xmas.............................. :-D :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: don46 on November 17, 2011, 09:52:59 AM
Thanks Guys!

Santa may bring me a 12 450F for Xmas.............................. :-D :-D :-D :-D

You will love it, my next purchase is going to be  pro moto billet kickstand
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: don46 on December 17, 2011, 09:45:33 AM
Installed the Pro Moto billett kickstand, fits like a glove, these things are expensive but man are they nice. They tuck out of the way, you don't even know they are there.

Alan

You should seriously consider replacing the chain guide and slider rather quickly, they wear out almost immediately, at least the 11, 10 and 09 did. I used the TM designs chainguide and slider they last like iron
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: The Flyin Hawaiian on December 17, 2011, 12:45:04 PM
PMB kickstand and TM chainguides are definately top notch. Have them both on my 250s and 500. Just put a Trail Tech stand on my wifes 03 KX250, nice piece but requires a slight elongation of the lower mount hole.
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: ThrottleJunky on December 18, 2011, 12:42:28 AM

KX450F = start with tennis shoes

KX500 = start with boots ONLY !!!!!
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: alward25 on December 18, 2011, 06:58:35 AM
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=vXDVzyiV5oA

Or tennis shoe

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=GZ1RSiDeULM

Or flip flop

Compression release mod might be a must!
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: Motorrad on December 18, 2011, 07:24:29 AM
I start my 14:1.  200psi monster all the time in tennis shoes... Thanks to Larry Wiechman .
Title: Did Santa make it?
Post by: ID KX500 on December 28, 2011, 04:51:43 PM
Did Santa make it?  :?
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: alan on December 29, 2011, 07:48:40 AM
Maybe Saturday!
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: ID KX500 on December 29, 2011, 11:24:00 AM
Maybe Saturday!

Better late than never.    :-D
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: alan on January 09, 2012, 06:30:47 AM
Yep! I just pulled the trigger! :-D :-D :-D Just got back from my Kawie dealer!

Can't wait to ride it!

I guess I need to some reading in this section......................

Alan :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: weymouth399 on January 09, 2012, 08:37:14 AM
Very nice, we need ride reports, they say it's BA.

Bob W
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: alan on January 17, 2012, 05:34:47 AM
I took my new 450 out Sunday and I have to say, HOLY CRAP BATMAN! :-o :-o WoW! The bike is scary fast! I finally got the suspension dialed in and It is an amazing piece of engineering. This is the first time I ever rode a bike with fuel injection. The response is like flipping a switch!  Not sure why anyone would want to put a KX5 in the 450 frame. I still have lots of adjusting to do to get use to the power and way it handles!

You guys were right you can start it with your tennies on.  I think i kicked it 3 times to start it and once it warmed up 1 kick ever time! :-D :-D :-D

Alan
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: don46 on January 23, 2012, 02:48:14 AM
the 12 is an impressive bike, I haven't even tried the other two plugs to see what difference they make, it is so much fun riding it the way it came. I have an 11 also and I can tell you it isn't the same as the 12 not even close. suspension is better on the 12 as well. I've added the pro moto billett kickstand and an FMF pipe (not sure why), and Pro taper bars.

You have to ride one to really understand how good they are, granted they won't have the top end of a 500 they are still fun to ride, they could be a little quiter
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: ID KX500 on January 31, 2012, 07:32:14 AM
I took my new 450 out Sunday and I have to say, HOLY CRAP BATMAN! :-o :-o WoW! The bike is scary fast! I finally got the suspension dialed in and It is an amazing piece of engineering. This is the first time I ever rode a bike with fuel injection. The response is like flipping a switch!  Not sure why anyone would want to put a KX5 in the 450 frame. I still have lots of adjusting to do to get use to the power and way it handles!

You guys were right you can start it with your tennies on.  I think i kicked it 3 times to start it and once it warmed up 1 kick ever time! :-D :-D :-D

Alan


I missed this post Alan. I'm glad to see the 450 works for you. There is definitely a place for the 500, but for all around, the 450's are all I need.   
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: ID KX500 on March 22, 2013, 05:08:30 AM
Hey Alan how you liking the 450 a year later???
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: alan on April 17, 2013, 08:18:55 AM
To be honest I have not been able to ride since the first time I took it out. Mostly just waiting for the heart doc to turn me loose!
d**n shame to have all of these toys and not be able to ride! :cry: :cry: :cry: :oops: :oops: :-( :-( :-(
Title: Re: Electric starter kit for KX450F
Post by: ID KX500 on April 17, 2013, 11:58:59 PM
That explains it. I went through a ticker problem a few years ago. I hope it doesn't keep you away from riding too long.

Tell the Mrs hi from Chris.