KX Riders
Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: bigtwin100 on May 26, 2011, 09:00:32 AM
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Looking thru ads for 2 strokers I'm amazed that everyone selling them has put a new top end in the bike minutes before writing the ad :-D Man what a great world we are living in!
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Dont forget all the DRAG banshees for sale that was "the wifes bike".. and just Rode around camp 2x...
I have yet to go look at a bike that said "new top end"... that actually had a "new top end"...
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Dont forget all the DRAG banshees for sale that was "the wifes bike".. and just Rode around camp 2x...
I have yet to go look at a bike that said "new top end"... that actually had a "new top end"...
Or the 2007 GSXR/CBR/ZX/R1 1000 with only 1200 miles.........only at a 1/4 mile each ride! :-P
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MUST SELL, READY TO RIDE...NEW TOP END !!!!!...................(2 seasons ago......)
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"Excellent condition, brand new top end with 0 time on it" is my favorite. Yeah I always put a new top end in, don't even start it and just put it right on craigslist lol! Or the "brand new bottom and top end" Sometimes I'd rather have it blown up than "Fixed" by the guy who pounds the cases on the crank with a mallet in his back yard :?
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For sale.
Low miles Buel Motorcycle. in PERFECT CONDITION.
Fresh top end done 1 ride ago. Tires have 200 miles on them, Tons of aftermarket parts, Always used Synthetic oil
Was the wifes bike, so ridden easy.
Runs alittle hot on the Temp guage, My buddy said a $20 radiator cap will fix it.. WIll Knock $20 off price.
$8000 Firm.
If interested please call.
444-5567
(http://www.pottsmerc.com/content/articles/2010/06/07/news/srv0000008472534.jpg)
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"easy 10 minute fix"
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Cream puff
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MUST SELL, READY TO RIDE...NEW TOP END !!!!!...................(2 seasons ago......)
LOL ive seen those before
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In 2004 I bought an 03 KX65 that had a 'new bottom end' in it. Less than 5 minutes into my boy's first ride, you guessed it........... the bottom end seized.
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I have purchased hundreds of bikes over the years.
Once in a while they have a new piston and rings.
Once in a greater while they have a fairly new sleeve with a matching piston.
Only twice in hundreds of purchases have I ever seen a new plate job with the exception being some cylinders that had been re-plated as part of a collection I bought out.
As you probably have already guessed, a lot of these bikes were suppose to have a new top end.
I have to admit, most of these guys are convinced or sound convinced that they really do have a new top end.
One guy I bought from had about 1500 in receipts for his complete engine overhaul (top and bottom end).
It was done a month previous to our purchase and was suppose to have about an hours worth of riding.
When we pulled the engine apart we found the piston was heavily galled due to excessive side play in the crank.
It appeared as though there were some new seals installed along with a new piston and rings.
The cylinder appeared to be the stock plating that had been ball honed.
The guy who I bought the bike from actually called me back a few weeks later to see how I liked the condition of the engine.
When I told him what I found he said "No way!"
He drove over and I showed him.
He was really stunned.
He wanted to sue the company that did the work.
So, when I buy a bike that says new top or bottom end....... needless to say, I am a skeptic......
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you should be skeptic about anything someone says about a used bike
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Been selling and buying used bikes for the past 25 years. When I sell, I have a clear concious, and any bike I sell is 100% mechanically mint, and I always ask reasonably cheap money. I'ts never taken me more than a week to sell a used bike. On the flipside, i've had to read and listen to every bull $hit sales pitch that you could imagine. I never let on that I have over 25 years of MX bike experience, I just keep quiet until my closing comments and then walk away. The seller now realizes he bull $hitted the wrong person. A list of my favorites :
1) All Pro Circus performance done up KX250 "it's my wifes bike"
2) "fluids changed after EVERY ride" (yea ok buddy)
3) "race ready but never raced" (true race bikes are the ones that have been maintained)
4) "never raced" (only beaten every weekend, then put away wet)
5) " Needs a little" (translates to you will be opening up a can of worms)
6) "needs carb cleaned" (if you know exactly that thats the issue why didn't you just simply clean the carb before selling ?)
7) "vintage " ( does this make your MX bike more valuable or less ?)
8 ) "fresh top end" (recently blown up)
9) "fresh bottom end) (recently totally blown up)
10) "way too fast for me" (then why are you willing to trade for a bigger bike in another posted ad ?)
11) "need it gone by the weekend" (seller got arrested for road riding his dirt bike and is headed off to jail on monday)
12) "all new plastic" (the bike fell off the trailer on the highway from cheap tie-downs)
:-D
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That's hilarious :-D
Yeah, I've seen them all.....
Just needs the carb cleaned or needs a tune up are my favorites..
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what about the ones where they say that the air filter , oil filter ( 4 stroke) , oil has been changed every ride?
c'mon changing the air filter EVERY ride is not possible unless your rich and have alot of time on your hands to go out and get an air filter at $35 a piece AND the cleaning detergent , and filter oil.
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Well, I hate to admit it but I do change my oil after every ride.
Yes, I clean my air filter after every ride.
I only change my radiator fluid once a year.
But, I only ride every other month so cost is not an issue.
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One guy I bought from had about 1500 in receipts for his complete engine overhaul (top and bottom end).
It was done a month previous to our purchase and was suppose to have about an hours worth of riding.
When we pulled the engine apart we found the piston was heavily galled due to excessive side play in the crank.
It appeared as though there were some new seals installed along with a new piston and rings.
The cylinder appeared to be the stock plating that had been ball honed.
The guy who I bought the bike from actually called me back a few weeks later to see how I liked the condition of the engine.
When I told him what I found he said "No way!"
He drove over and I showed him.
He was really stunned.
He wanted to sue the company that did the work.
So, when I buy a bike that says new top or bottom end....... needless to say, I am a skeptic......
Sounds Like when I took My "Stewart" motor appart...... (except I wish it was only $1500) :lol:
Sorry... I couldnt Resist....
Ill go back to being quiet about the ordeal again..
honestly, this site is NOT a better place for Stewart not being here, I haven't said much about this whole ordeal and this is all I'm going to say. Stewart was always offering his knowledge and insight for free, you don't find that anymore, everything is for sale now. defineately a different place, BDI, Hillclimb42, Jfab all gone, even I frequent the site much less than I did before. So while I know many of you have issues, and I truly feel for you, I really hate to see this continue, there is no point to continue to bring this up, get over it and move on.
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Well, I hate to admit it but I do change my oil after every ride.
Yes, I clean my air filter after every ride.
I only change my radiator fluid once a year.
But, I only ride every other month so cost is not an issue.
i change my oil after every ride too, and i dont clean my air filter after every ride, i clean it when it looks dirty , im not talking dirty like it looked like there was a birds nest in my air box.
but i was saying that people claim that they buy a NEW air filter after EVERY ride
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I must admit bikes that are being raced are the best looked after usually. My kx5 gets a clean air filter every ride what I mean is every meeting it goes to and I change the gearbox oil every third outing and the fourstroke is the same change the air filter every meeting engine oil every meeting and the oil filter and gearbox oil every 3rd meeting. It is funny when you see adverts never raced when I think bikes that are raced are better looked after. Well I know mine is as I want it to last at a meeting and the next etc....
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I must admit bikes that are being raced are the best looked after usually. My kx5 gets a clean air filter every ride what I mean is every meeting it goes to and I change the gearbox oil every third outing and the fourstroke is the same change the air filter every meeting engine oil every meeting and the oil filter and gearbox oil every 3rd meeting. It is funny when you see adverts never raced when I think bikes that are raced are better looked after. Well I know mine is as I want it to last at a meeting and the next etc....
i agree with the race bikes being up to snuff all the time, i was reading a motocross magazine a minute ago and it says the honda factory bike gets the suspension torn down and rebuilt after 2 races, motor torn right down after a race weekend,
new clutch everyday ... and you get my drift... i bet (i know) that those race bikes are worth a fortune
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I must admit bikes that are being raced are the best looked after usually. My kx5 gets a clean air filter every ride what I mean is every meeting it goes to and I change the gearbox oil every third outing and the fourstroke is the same change the air filter every meeting engine oil every meeting and the oil filter and gearbox oil every 3rd meeting. It is funny when you see adverts never raced when I think bikes that are raced are better looked after. Well I know mine is as I want it to last at a meeting and the next etc....
i agree with the race bikes being up to snuff all the time, i was reading a motocross magazine a minute ago and it says the honda factory bike gets the suspension torn down and rebuilt after 2 races, motor torn right down after a race weekend,
new clutch everyday ... and you get my drift... i bet (i know) that those race bikes are worth a fortune
This is not true all the time. I bought a 96 CR250 from a top running MX expert in 97. This expert owned a very reputable suspension company here on the East coast. It was the worst bike I've owned. Everything was hammered and it became obvious a couple rides later. DO NOT assume because it's a race bike that it is in good condition and was taken care of. Don't kid yourself, most of them had the living snot beaten out of them and that is why they are getting a new race bike.
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That proberly may be true with top guys their bikes are more hammered and thrashed but I race at local club level and it amazing how you see as the bikes get older they are sold within the club as people know the bikes and see how they are looked after and i still would consider a bike thats been raced rather than just used as field bike not raced