KX Riders
General => In General... => Topic started by: sandblaster on March 09, 2011, 01:58:46 PM
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This might sound funny coming from a guy who makes his living selling used Japanese products.
But I'll give it a shot.
I have been watching the news about how much of what we buy is made in China.
In the news they have shown that if we were to buy $3.33 on U.S.-made goods, it would create almost 10,000 new jobs in this country.
So, trying to do my part I tried to buy an American made cordless drill at the local lumber yard (Jerry's).
I figured that I would spend about 200-250 USD.
I walked straight to the Milwaukee rack and guess what... made in China.
So I looked at all the major brands and all were made in China, Malaysia, or Mexico. :?
So I got online and nobody I could find makes a cordless drill in the USA.
Even the Japanese make all their tools in China, Malaysia, or Mexico.
So I go to Snap On.
For sure I'll pay an arm and a leg but at least it is American made...
Nope, made in CHINA!!!!!!
So, buy American??? Tell me how :?
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This might sound funny coming from a guy who makes his living selling used Japanese products.
But I'll give it a shot.
I have been watching the news about how much of what we buy is made in China.
In the news they have shown that if we were to buy $3.33 on U.S.-made goods, it would create almost 10,000 new jobs in this country.
So, trying to do my part I tried to buy an American made cordless drill at the local lumber yard (Jerry's).
I figured that I would spend about 200-250 USD.
I walked straight to the Milwaukee rack and guess what... made in China.
So I looked at all the major brands and all were made in China, Malaysia, or Mexico. :?
So I got online and nobody I could find makes a cordless drill in the USA.
Even the Japanese make all their tools in China, Malaysia, or Mexico.
So I go to Snap On.
For sure I'll pay an arm and a leg but at least it is American made...
Nope, made in CHINA!!!!!!
So, buy American??? Tell me how :?
This would be one way.
http://www.atkusa.com/atk/(S(3uxlsobxyyfx2y55pzl44pyf))/documents/2009ATK700620cc.pdf
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Buy me one... Please :-D
Then again, maybe I should look into becoming a dealer :-D
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Buy me one... Please :-D
Not sure if Ill have enough money left over after buying one of each for myself.
Have been 2 ATK's in the family... STELLER motorcycles.. (both were dual sporter rotax powered 4T's) and Great parts support.. Id own a ATK in a heartbeat.. I swear you could rebuild the entire bike with a 6mm allen wrench.
when we were riding cross country my cousins 605 was eating chain and sprokets (his fault for running a junky chain) and he made one phone call to ATK, and they drop shiped a chain and sprockets next day , to our next night stop for us.. no extra charge..
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/DSC_0424.jpg)
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http://www.siouxtools.com/ (http://www.siouxtools.com/)
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Thanks for the link.
Your right, I only saw these drills which are at these locations and made in China,
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=yes&tool=all&item_ID=91178&group_ID=24793&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog (http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=yes&tool=all&item_ID=91178&group_ID=24793&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog)
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=yes&tool=all&item_ID=91179&group_ID=24793&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog (http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=yes&tool=all&item_ID=91179&group_ID=24793&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog)
Now I see these:
$412.00
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=yes&tool=all&item_ID=88256&group_ID=24344&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog (http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=yes&tool=all&item_ID=88256&group_ID=24344&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog)
$206.00 drill only
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=yes&tool=all&item_ID=88905&group_ID=24344&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog (http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=yes&tool=all&item_ID=88905&group_ID=24344&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog)
I have to wait until I pay for a few projects and then I will help create some jobs. :-o
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we are worse off in the u.k, we make nothing here any more. it also means that almost every thing i buy is very poor quality and doesn't last 5 minutes. this was fair enough when things were cheap but now things have gone up in price. now i here another of the U.S.As high quality manufacturers (snapon) has let its manufacturing be done abroad . we have all seen how that has effected the quality at wiseco. i have always veiwed U.S made goods as high quality and still do, the manufacturers need to be more open about where things are made. i think, in terms of munufacturing the world is going backwards in some ways
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this is un real. we purchase a set on hair straighteners for my good ladys birthday that was on saturday (5 days ago). i belived remington to be U.S. .just after i wrote the last post in this thread she was whining that the on/off switch was not working. yes you guessed it, made in chain.
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I agree with you.
Here is the problem for Manufactures.
As an example, Snap On.
You have a cordless drill that you can buy from China and retail for 200 bucks that is the equal to any of the other Manufactures upper model drills.
Who knows, they may be made in the same factory.
Or, they can build one in the USA but have to sell it for 400.
Is the quality twice as good?
Will it last twice as long?
Even if it does, will they sell enough to make it worth their production and development cost?
I hate the word Tariff or Import Fees but I'm not sure there is another way to fix the imbalance.
I did manage to find and purchase a US made brand new in the package Snap On Cordless for 275 on eBay.
I'll do my part to support US manufactures even if it costs more.
I just hope that enough others will join in to make a difference.
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this is un real. we purchase a set on hair straighteners for my good ladys birthday that was on saturday (5 days ago). i belived remington to be U.S. .just after i wrote the last post in this thread she was whining that the on/off switch was not working. yes you guessed it, made in chain.
And there you have it...
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i do agree that made in america and made in canada stuff are way better than china.
it now seems that all the good north american made stuff is now being made in china
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This is why you have to fish around for used power tools made in USA or better yet, NOS stuff if you're lucky. Almost all of my tools are either Snap On, Proto, Mac, or Cornwell and every one of them are made in USA. I'm glad I made my tool collection when these manufactures all still made things in the USA.
When I want to buy a new drill, I try to search around on ebay. If that's not successful, I will find a Hilti or Metabo that's not made in USA, but the ones I have seen are not made in China.
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I did some research on Hilti tools and found that Production is in Austria, Germany, China (2 plants) and USA.
The big problem is figuring out what tool is made where :x
Metabo manufactures at three locations in Germany, as well as in France, and - through a joint venture - in China
There again the big problem is figuring out what tool is made where :x
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(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/1/8/128759257352144648.jpg)
sorry i had too :-D
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Nothing against the Chinese people.
They are certainly welcome to have a better life.
I do have something against Corporations that have abandoned their countries and their people that made their Corporation great just to turn a bigger profit.
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Nothing against the Chinese people.
They are certainly welcome to have a better life.
I do have something against Corporations that have abandoned their countries and their people that made their Corporation great just to turn a bigger profit.
well stated sandblaster, it is sure tough to find "made in usa" tools or anything else for that matter. i'm with you, i do not mind paying a little more to support an american worker and do my part to support our economy where i can. look around my home and you will find very few items made in america, however that is not due to lack of effort to find " made in usa". our government destroys our country from the inside out with their trade laws.
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It amazes me that every Country I sell to outside of the US has a tariff, tax, or import duty.
Yet, I buy stuff from around the world with no tariff, tax, or import duty.
What happened to fair trade?
The same thing that happened to all the jobs.... There was a huge sucking sound and all the jobs didn't go to Mexico, they went to China :roll:
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I believe that Stanley, Black and Decker and Mac tools are still made in America, Connecticut is the main referenced that keeps popping up.
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"Made in the USA" doesn't neccessarily mean made in the USA.
http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus03-complying-made-usa-standard
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i have a lot of snap on tools i have collected over the years my favorite are my old stuff about 25 yrs + spanners are much better than the set i got for work a few months ago . the old ones are alot thinner and much nicer to use ,sad to here its going aboad i always believed snap on were the "bench mark" of tools!!
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i have a lot of snap on tools i have collected over the years my favorite are my old stuff about 25 yrs + spanners are much better than the set i got for work a few months ago . the old ones are alot thinner and much nicer to use ,sad to here its going aboad i always believed snap on were the "bench mark" of tools!!
companys are getting cheaper and cheaper to the point they make the absolute crappiest products ever.
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I believe that Stanley, Black and Decker and Mac tools are still made in America, Connecticut is the main referenced that keeps popping up.
Double check that, I looked and cordless drills (Not hand tools) and not a single one of those companies made one in the USA :cry:
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It really is getting tougher...
I have been wearing the same style of work boots for atleast 15 years. Ten years ago, the company started offering two versions of their most popular styles. They 'looked' the same, but one had a local flag on the tongue and was $5 more.
That is right....five lousy dollars and there were still guys in the store buying the red boots!
Sheesh.
Nowdays, the boot with the friendly flag is $20 more....guess how many more guys were looking at the red boots.
Selfishly, the US made boot had leather that was proudly tanned within 12 miles of the retailer and less than a mile from my house. It makes it even harder for me to come up with a better way to spend 20 bucks!
Mark
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+1
Yet, for some guys, the 20 bucks may be the difference between making the bills and going 20 in the hole for the month, so I know there is a need for the cheap stuff.
I just want the choice to buy products made in the USA, Canada, or Europe.
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these are just extremely tiny little fractions of evidence of what has been in the making and is to come on a worldwide scale......welcome to the New World Order....
am i crazy ??
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Are you crazy?
Not from where I stand.
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these are just extremely tiny little fractions of evidence of what has been in the making and is to come on a worldwide scale......welcome to the New World Order....
am i crazy ??
if you are then i must be too
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So, after all that research I settled on and bought a snap cordless drill that is listed on their website as made in America.
I received it today in the mail.
I opened it up.
The batteries are made in Japan (That's ok).
The charger is made in CHINA!!!!! (That stinks)
The drill is assembled in the USA (Don't know where the parts came from)
The plastic case..... That is made in the USA Whoooohoooooo!!!!
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So, after all that research I settled on and bought a snap cordless drill that is listed on their website as made in America.
I received it today in the mail.
I opened it up.
The batteries are made in Japan (That's ok).
The charger is made in CHINA!!!!! (That stinks)
The drill is assembled in the USA (Don't know where the parts came from)
The plastic case..... That is made in the USA Whoooohoooooo!!!!
dont you hate when they make all the little pieces in MANY different countries and they all come to one place to get assembled?
really? how much more would it have costed to manufacture everything in the same plant?
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ok enough about the New World Order and secret societies....Im bound to get "whacked" by someone in high places if I dont shutup....
Anyways, Feast your eyes on this boys!! yup the original first year model 12v DeWalt cordless. I bought it new and used it for a cabinet making job I had way back. Im not sure of the exact age but somewhere around 15yrs ago. the charger is from a newer model because the original one got wet along the way. But the drill and battery packs are the originals and have by far outlasted three other much newer 14 and 18 volt Dewalt cordless drills I have had. The carry case is even made out of heavy steel. No "made in China" anywhere on this setup
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Nice!