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Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: Motorrad on December 15, 2010, 10:27:46 AM

Title: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Motorrad on December 15, 2010, 10:27:46 AM
Well ordered up my OEM rod kit from service honda the other day... and guess what

"The following part number(s) are backordered from Kawasaki and have no current release date as of now. The rest of your order will ship out as scheduled.  When the backorder comes in we will ship it out to you at no additional charge.

13032-1104 ROD-CONNECTING

92026-1346 SPACER"


So is this the end of the OEM rod kits?   I dont see Kawasaki making any new "connecting rods" for a KX500 any time soon. 
Very sad. as I liked the OEM rod kit..   

So off to versah? ProX?
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: sandblaster on December 15, 2010, 10:42:08 AM
I guess it had to happen sooner or later.  :cry:
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: kaw rider on December 15, 2010, 11:13:58 AM
you sure about that. that seams odd. is that a old or new part number.
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Motorrad on December 15, 2010, 11:22:10 AM
you sure about that. that seams odd. is that a old or new part number.

All ordered off service hondas website...   for a 2004 kx500.
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: kaw rider on December 15, 2010, 12:21:35 PM
back 3 years ago crankcases were back order for 10  months. has anybody bought cases lately.
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: kxpegger on December 15, 2010, 12:47:50 PM
I'm sure Kawi is still in production. Half the crap I order from Service Honda ends up back ordered and when it finally does show it's not what I ordered. They eventually get it right! I'm just glad I usually have my other bikes up and running so I have something to ride. If I had to depend on SH getting it right I'd be out of luck!
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: kaw rider on December 15, 2010, 01:53:31 PM
there are some parts on back order but the rod isn't. I found a oem rod for $58.00 thats cheap.
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: BDI on December 15, 2010, 01:58:40 PM
By law they have to produce parts for ten years after the last date of manufactured bike. They don't just go making parts for no reason though, what they will do is wait until they have enough orders to justify making a run of parts. That's how parts typically wind up on back order.
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Motorrad on December 15, 2010, 08:33:12 PM
By law they have to produce parts for ten years after the last date of manufactured bike. They don't just go making parts for no reason though, what they will do is wait until they have enough orders to justify making a run of parts. That's how parts typically wind up on back order.

Ive never heard that one?

before my 350x honda was 8yrs old I couldnt get certain dealer parts.. (mostly plastics, front tire... etc)
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Motorrad on December 15, 2010, 08:34:44 PM
there are some parts on back order but the rod isn't. I found a oem rod for $58.00 thats cheap.

Where did you find it?!   why would service honda say it is on back order if its available?
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: jonny500 on December 16, 2010, 12:53:49 AM
service honda build kx 500 engines from new oem part. to do that you need a conrod/crank :?
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: kaw rider on December 16, 2010, 02:23:02 AM
just talk to my buddy at the stealership, he said they are on back order but they will fill the order sometime down the road.
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: ThrottleJunky on December 16, 2010, 03:23:59 PM
Well ordered up my OEM rod kit from service honda the other day... and guess what

"The following part number(s) are backordered from Kawasaki and have no current release date as of now. The rest of your order will ship out as scheduled.  When the backorder comes in we will ship it out to you at no additional charge.

13032-1104 ROD-CONNECTING

92026-1346 SPACER"


So is this the end of the OEM rod kits?   I dont see Kawasaki making any new "connecting rods" for a KX500 any time soon. 
Very sad. as I liked the OEM rod kit..   

So off to versah? ProX?


Change 1104 to 1184 and it is a valid part number
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Motorrad on December 17, 2010, 05:25:33 PM
Sharp EYE... didnt notice that...

The "order list" attached to the email had the correct part number.... I bet he just "fat fingered" it in the email.... I emailed him back just not to be 100% sure....


So anyone have experiance with back ordered (hard parts)... Am I looking at 3 weeks... 3 months... year and a half?



Well ordered up my OEM rod kit from service honda the other day... and guess what

"The following part number(s) are backordered from Kawasaki and have no current release date as of now. The rest of your order will ship out as scheduled.  When the backorder comes in we will ship it out to you at no additional charge.

13032-1104 ROD-CONNECTING

92026-1346 SPACER"




So is this the end of the OEM rod kits?   I dont see Kawasaki making any new "connecting rods" for a KX500 any time soon. 
Very sad. as I liked the OEM rod kit..   

So off to versah? ProX?


Change 1104 to 1184 and it is a valid part number
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: RoostDaddy on December 18, 2010, 04:06:36 AM
Sometimes the dealer will be given an estimated release date on back ordered parts.  But again this is only ESTIMATED.
Last rod I had put on was an IMS Pro Series, I dont think they've been made for a while so goes to show when the last time mine was replaced.
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Motorrad on December 21, 2010, 07:12:51 PM
Sometimes the dealer will be given an estimated release date on back ordered parts.  But again this is only ESTIMATED.
Last rod I had put on was an IMS Pro Series, I dont think they've been made for a while so goes to show when the last time mine was replaced.

Was just told today... there is no release date... so who knows..

since I want this thing up and going for january...

who aftermarket is up to snuff... as good as the original....
Versah?
I know hotrods is crapola
ProX shows a kit, anyone try one?
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: cbmoor on December 22, 2010, 02:30:17 AM
I put a prox kit in mine as it is made in japan and prox is oem maker but they are running out of rods for the kx5 here in Europe only find them in shops that held them in stock and Dutch says they are not planning to take more in to Europe any time soon.
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: kaw rider on December 22, 2010, 02:57:35 AM
i wonder if stewart has any oem rods. motorrad i would go buy a new crank and be done with it.
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: jonny500 on December 22, 2010, 03:50:47 AM
motorrad,  i bought a genuine conrod about 3 weeks ago from a main dealer here in the uk. it took less than 24 hours to arrive. i use this dealer alot and have a good relationship with them. if you would like i will call them to see if they have one (im sure they do). post from the UK to US can be done in less than 5 days. just give the word and i will make the inquires for you and get you in touch with them
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Motorrad on December 22, 2010, 03:25:10 PM
i wonder if stewart has any oem rods. motorrad i would go buy a new crank and be done with it.

Would but don't want to lose my stuffer crank...

If I could get ahold of Stewart I'd ask him for one. (and alot of other things...)
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: kaw rider on December 22, 2010, 06:05:53 PM
maybe you could buy a new crank and steel the rod and other parts off of it to put on to your stuffer crank. I have a call into my buddy that does alot of mx motor to see if he has a oem rod laying around.
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Motorrad on December 22, 2010, 07:51:09 PM
maybe you could buy a new crank and steel the rod and other parts off of it to put on to your stuffer crank. I have a call into my buddy that does alot of mx motor to see if he has a oem rod laying around.

Reason I wanted a new rod. As I dont trust mine... anymore... and when a oem one was $55.. it wasnt worth getting mine checked for straight and magnafluxed. etc...   


So no oppinion on the Versah stuff?
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Motorrad on December 22, 2010, 07:53:37 PM
motorrad,  i bought a genuine conrod about 3 weeks ago from a main dealer here in the uk. it took less than 24 hours to arrive. i use this dealer alot and have a good relationship with them. if you would like i will call them to see if they have one (im sure they do). post from the UK to US can be done in less than 5 days. just give the word and i will make the inquires for you and get you in touch with them


My thoughts on this..

exchange rate is not in my favor (aprox $1 us to .76 UK)... then I have to ship it...   really dont want to be $200 into a rod kit.  already have $150? tied up with backorder and half my parts in my hand at service honda..

Then again Im getting impatiant and about to order a aftermarket rod kit... which would be $100...

sooo.. guess we should go ahead and check?
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: ThrottleJunky on December 23, 2010, 02:03:01 AM
Motorrad
I got a good friend that is high up in the kawi structure to run a query on that part.   He said that there are some available but obviouisly not from the distrubution center that your dealer is drawing from.

This don't help you much because you have money down on an order already.    IF not, or you can back out of the order, call dealers in other areas of the country to find your part. 

Not sure what area of the country your in...
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Dutch-K5 Fan on December 23, 2010, 04:06:13 AM
Well Motorrad I just orderd 2 vesrah kits. Read everywere that Prox, Vesrah and OEM are the same. That on
this forum and others.
In holland a oem cost me $245,-  now $275,- for 2 Vesrah rods.

It will take a copple of days when I get it. Let you know how they look.


Dutchie
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Motorrad on January 07, 2011, 06:02:35 PM
Just got a ship confermation from service honda today...

HOORAY rods still exsist!!!!
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: kaw rider on January 07, 2011, 06:12:29 PM
they are not on back order any more, just checked the other day. My rods should be here any day.
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Dutch-K5 Fan on January 08, 2011, 06:52:10 AM
Good to here the OEM rod is back.

Mine Vesrah's have arrived. Look almost the same as oem, even better if you ask me.
They look a bit more refined.
Now have to put it together and balance it at 56-59%.

dutchie
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: sandblaster on January 08, 2011, 07:50:10 AM
Hey Dutchie.
Have you weighed the two to see if there is any difference?
Thanks!
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Motorrad on January 08, 2011, 08:00:45 AM
Hey Dutchie.
Have you weighed the two to see if there is any difference?
Thanks!

I'm interested in that as well

I notice the crank pin is taper bored on the versah.  Raise ccr?
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: doordie on January 08, 2011, 11:15:31 PM
Vesrah got silverplated cage and shims,stands more RPM.... 8-)
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Rd on January 21, 2011, 02:31:48 PM
Anybody familar with these rod kits?
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KAWASAKI-KX-500-CRANKSHAFT-CONNECTING-ROD-KIT-LOOK-/180615170335?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a0d80c91f (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KAWASAKI-KX-500-CRANKSHAFT-CONNECTING-ROD-KIT-LOOK-/180615170335?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a0d80c91f)
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Goat on January 22, 2011, 04:47:11 AM
I've never used IMS in a k5 but have installed them in a couple cr5's and many other smaller bikes. They worked fine for me but everything I put them in was pretty much stock. I don't know detailed specs of IMS rods. I would imagine they would be better than stock and able to handle some mods.
Title: Re: End Of OEM rod kits?
Post by: Dutch-K5 Fan on January 31, 2011, 05:55:39 AM
Hey Dutchie.
Have you weighed the two to see if there is any difference?
Thanks!


Finally have found our scale :lol:
Weight is in grams, like in 1000gram in 1Kilogram. Just to be clear.

Total weight of Rod:   Vesrah  296gr              OEM    281gr
Bigend side                          183gr                        167gr
Smallend side                       114gr                        114gr

Bigend pin                            154gr                        160gr
Cage with pins                       36gr                          36gr
Total                                  486gr                        477gr

So the Vesrah weight   9gr more, only on the Bigend side.

Hope this helps :-)


Dutch