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Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: KXer on September 06, 2010, 01:35:10 PM

Title: Stator removal??
Post by: KXer on September 06, 2010, 01:35:10 PM
This is probably just out of my patience range right now after tearing down the top end and finding a broken piston, horribly scored head and chunks missing out of the cylinder wall.  Can someone enlighten me on how you get to the stator.  Under the stator cover I am at a cap with phillips head screws around the perimeter and a 17mm nut in the middle.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: 3Razors on September 06, 2010, 04:46:27 PM
Manual :roll: Should be 1st purchase with every bike.
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: Friar-Tuck on September 06, 2010, 05:36:07 PM
KXer,
 Your going to need a 27mm flywheel puller,
(Looks like This)
 http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/productDetail.do?navType=type&webTypeId=203&navTitle=Engine&webCatId=17&keyword=PULLER&prodFamilyId=17329
              Remove the flywheel  and expose the stater for testing or
or replacement. 
  I'll try to get some picc's up tomorrow..
  Tuck\o/
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: greencannon on September 07, 2010, 04:56:47 PM
Be careful!!...stator screws are probably philips head and really soft. Strip them out and feel your blood boil from an already heated situation, been there.
 I use a large philips bit to fit very snug on a small hammer type impact driver give em a light whack and they break free. If you should strip them a cutoff
wheel on a dremel rotary tool will cut a slot for a  straight blade screwdriver(impact)
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: bmulanax30 on September 24, 2010, 09:53:05 AM
can someone post pics of them doing the removal  for referance would be awesome  has anyone did the flywheel weight  is it worth the trouble of doing or put a pvl  system on the k5 any info would be awesome thanks
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: kaw rider on September 24, 2010, 03:52:38 PM
B
Stay away from the pvl ignition.
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: DoldGuy on September 25, 2010, 12:38:54 AM
B
Stay away from the pvl ignition.

+1
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: sandblaster on September 25, 2010, 07:22:41 AM
+2  :-(
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: Motorrad on September 25, 2010, 05:44:35 PM
Can we get this moved to it's proper section.  Don't want to clutter up this one

"Changing the power delivery.
Theory and proven modifications.
SERIOUS DISCUSSION ONLY."
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: bmulanax30 on September 25, 2010, 07:24:21 PM
good to know  thanks peeps
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: KayEx5hunSM on October 17, 2010, 04:48:56 PM
What's wrong with the PVL? Just picked up a K5 and it has a PVL on it. Let me know.
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: alward25 on October 17, 2010, 08:12:08 PM
Be careful!!...stator screws are probably philips head and really soft. Strip them out and feel your blood boil from an already heated situation, been there.
 I use a large philips bit to fit very snug on a small hammer type impact driver give em a light whack and they break free. If you should strip them a cutoff
wheel on a dremel rotary tool will cut a slot for a  straight blade screwdriver(impact)

They are a #3 philips and most people try to remove them with a #2.  But they are soft.
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: 3Razors on October 20, 2010, 02:06:04 AM
What's wrong with the PVL? Just picked up a K5 and it has a PVL on it. Let me know.
Thanks guys!

PVL works great.  Don't listen to the naysayers. The fastest drag bikes in the world run them.  I love mine.  Use .090 btdc timing setting.
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: kaw rider on October 20, 2010, 02:31:34 AM
i know alot of guys that use them on there cr500 and dont have problems like some of the guys with the kx500 motor.
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: BDI on October 20, 2010, 03:49:54 AM
I think you are more apt to hear about the problems people have. It's like at work, you could do a thousand things right every day and no one ever says anything about it but if you screw up once then everyone hears about it.
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: kaw rider on October 20, 2010, 05:04:46 AM
brian is right you don't here customers telling everybody that somebody does great work, but they will tell the whole world if somebody does crappy work.
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: 3Razors on October 20, 2010, 05:57:05 AM
True, the biggest problem people have with them is when they are set correctly they are hard to start especially on a 500, so most people give up.  It takes a very strong swift kick to get the engine to spin fast enough because with pvl you don't have flywheel inertia.  I got the hang of it, but lately the best mod I recommend to make life easier with one is get the JFab compression relief setup, it starts like a 125 now.  .090 was the final setting that I run.  I had Jerry Hall set it up, we had the bike connected to a tachometer with a timing light at the flywheel, started it up and revved to 6K rpm the marks are dead on.  The power delivery with one is viscous and cracks like lightning.

So .090 will give you 19 degrees @ 6K rpm factory timing.
Title: Re: Stator removal??
Post by: don46 on October 20, 2010, 01:11:12 PM
I ran a PVL for several years, it worked OK wouldn't say it was exceptional. as I recall the timing was set at .090 btdc, then one day the bike backfired and when it did it busted the clutch cover and the kick starter shaft. It does not use a keyway, so it can/could move which is what I think happened to mine, or maybe it was the Nitrous, either way i took it off and put a stocker back on. I think next year I'm going to work on the 250 ignition some more, it was considerably more noticeable power delivery than the PVL, as I've said before, too much. I'm going to try a flywheel weight to calm down the delivery a little bit, try and find a happy medium.

For me, I don't think I'll ever reinstall the PVL again, but who knows I said the same thing about the Lectron and I'm using it.