KX Riders

Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: Big Daddy J on August 10, 2010, 12:27:04 PM

Title: What cranks will interchange year to year
Post by: Big Daddy J on August 10, 2010, 12:27:04 PM
Anyone got any idea what crankshafts can be interchanged from year to year or where I can get a new or rebuilt crank or repair the one in the bike? It's a 2001 and has apparently broke the thrust bearing on the crank end.
Title: Re: What cranks will interchange year to year
Post by: bob larry on August 12, 2010, 07:26:30 AM
Just get it true and buy new rod and bearing kit.
Or buy a new crank...used cranks are not worth buying.

New crank bearings and seals, and clean the hell out of the bottom.
Title: Re: What cranks will interchange year to year
Post by: Roostmad1 on August 16, 2010, 08:41:59 AM
i think its best to buy genuine kawasaki bearings than some made in china rubbish like sold on ebay unless its SKF or some other well know make.
Title: Re: What cranks will interchange year to year
Post by: Motorrad on August 16, 2010, 09:12:54 AM
Stewart doesn't run stock bearings.   I forget what his reason was for this. As it was about a year ago we had that conversation.   Or what he runs in their place
Title: Re: What cranks will interchange year to year
Post by: NZ500 on August 16, 2010, 10:57:11 PM
I'd be getting the crank you have rebuilt. Unless yours has damaged the main journals I don't see any point in buying something you already have.

I use mostly NTN bearings in my bikes. My work has most standard sizes on the shelf, quite handy :)

I see no need to use OEM bearings if a quality replacement is available. After all you're more than likely paying for a kawasaki logo on a bearing manufactured by someone else. I just did a full rebuild on my ktm, they must use rediculously expensive boxes for their 'genuine' bearings lol. I'm pleased they were standard sizes!
Title: Re: What cranks will interchange year to year
Post by: sandblaster on September 13, 2010, 02:04:16 PM
Here is the interchangeability on KX500 crank shafts
83-84 KX500
85-86 KX500
1987 KX500 ONLY
1988 KX500 ONLY
89-04 KX500
Title: Re: What cranks will interchange year to year
Post by: kwakman on September 17, 2010, 11:16:19 PM
85 and 86 cranks are not the same....no p/valve drive on 85 crank, the 86 on bikes are all interchangeable, just that the earlier models have a different method of mounting the primary drive gear.....
Title: Re: What cranks will interchange year to year
Post by: sandblaster on September 18, 2010, 01:34:08 AM
Hello.
Thanks for the correction.
I'm sure that you are in the know.

However, this is what www.bikebandit.com shows:

13031:
CRANKSHAFT-COMP
   761277
(543871-001)          $379.75

1985 Kawasaki KX500(KX500B1)US
1986 Kawasaki KX500(KX500B2)US
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Here is what http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/ shows:

1985 KX500 13031     CRANKSHAFT-COMP     13031-1182
1986 KX500 13031     CRANKSHAFT-COMP     13031-1182
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Here is what  http://www.powersedge.com shows

1985 KX500 13037A  SKU: 13031-1182 CRANKSHAFT-COMP
1986 KX500 13037A  SKU: 13031-1182 CRANKSHAFT-COMP
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My own personal records agree with what these 3 sites are providing.
If I am mistaken I stand corrected.
Title: Re: What cranks will interchange year to year
Post by: Speedway73 on September 18, 2010, 06:20:46 AM
The '85 and '86 cranks are the same. The KIPS governor is driven by the spur gear...which is also the same from '85 to '86.
Title: Re: What cranks will interchange year to year
Post by: kwakman on September 19, 2010, 11:12:37 PM
my mistake.was thinking of the cases. :-o
however, dont get too hung up on part numbers.according to kawasaki, the 86 clutch bearing (discontinued) cannot be replaced by a later type bearing. but I assure you it can.same with pipes, rads and a host of other things.
Title: Re: What cranks will interchange year to year
Post by: sandblaster on September 20, 2010, 02:34:54 PM
You are absolutely right, part numbers are only good to a certain point.
A good case of this is wheel hubs.
If the manufacture changes a hub color from black to gray the part numbers will be different while all of the geometry is the same.
However, I have access to actual photo's of many thousands of parts which I use on a daily basis as well as many casting numbers which are rarely available on the internet or anywhere else that I am aware of  :lol:
I'm sure the manufactures have that sort of info but they don't usually like to share :roll:
Great job guys, that's what this site is all about.