KX Riders
Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: fishes on July 28, 2009, 05:35:25 PM
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Hi,
I'm considering buying a 2003 KX 500 mainly because it's a great deal. I have essentially no experience as a trail rider and would only use this bike for that purpose. A friend advised me that this bike is likely not a good candidate for amateur riders. I was just hoping that I could get a few other opinions on the matter. I'm 24 years old, 6'4" and 200 lbs. and am just wondering if anyone could shed some light on whether or not I'd be able to handle the bike.
Thanks a lot for any suggestions.
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welcome !
i,d say get the 03k5 ,since its a good deal ,these bikes become rare ,
if you have it ,and if its a joy to ride you can still prep it esp for trailriding.
yes its no beginners bike ,but you are 200 lbs ,6.4 ,so i figure your posture is good for k5
and its all in the wrist to begin with .
and for 200 % the kx500 is never going to be boring.
succes
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I am a newbie to big bore bikes, have not been on a bike since the 70's, 53 years old and 230 lbs, read, old inexperienced and over weight. I am having a blast but I a able to hold back and not get too excited and over twist the jesus I am coming grip. I say go for it as I did and grow into it as I am. The best part is trying to get my friends who consider themselves good riders to go for a ride. Most in my group will not even try the 5.
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When I was 14 years old my first bike was a 1984 IT 490...no lie, my dad told me it would teach me how to respect the throttle. Looking back I dont know what the hell he was thinking because he wouldn't let me play football because he said I would get hurt...go figure. Anyway I worked on that beast more then I rode it and I did get hurt on it too, when I was 20 or so I destroyed my left knee. Now I'm 25 and I have an 03' KX 500 and I couldn't be more happy with it. So it's up to you really I would say go for it but just don't get too comfortable on it and forget what it is. Good Luck 8-)
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It very could stunt your riding growth. You don't have to worry about your physical growth though!!! :-D
For beginners, I would say a buck and a quarter (125) just until you can man-handle it and give it the spanking it deserves. Once you're bored on the 125 which should be a year or so, then jump straight to the mighty K5.
I only say that because you will have constant arm pump if you're afraid of it and riding won't be fun- it could stunt your riding growth and make learning slower. You will not get good as quickly. However, if you stick with it with determination or dilligence, you will be able to handle it eventually, just be careful. :wink:
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Any bike can HURT you. The penalty for failure on a K5 can be DEATH.
But you only live once so GO FOR IT!!!
When you do something stupid on a K5 and it's a close call.
Stop and think about this picture.
I consider myself a fair rider back when I got hurt. It was late 2004, I was 47. I have owned and ridden some sort of bike since I was 14 years old. I did this at low speed, just gave it to much gas.
Have fun but yes, be careful. 13 months off work, still dealing with the injury.
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Any bike can HURT you. The penalty for failure on a K5 can be DEATH.
But you only live once so GO FOR IT!!!
When you do something stupid on a K5 and it's a close call.
Stop and think about this picture.
I consider myself a fair rider back when I got hurt. It was late 2004, I was 47. I have owned and ridden some sort of bike since I was 14 years old. I did this at low speed, just gave it to much gas.
Have fun but yes, be careful. 13 months off work, still dealing with the injury.
Yessir thats what happened to me, and it was at low speed too, 2nd gear wheelie. My cousin has an 04 KX 500 and he almost lost his leg at low speed. He did a wheelie and got hung up and it twisted his leg behind him. That was 4 months ago and he is still in bad shape and needs more surgery. I'm going to invest in some POD mx braces. They are expensive but I don't want to go through that again if I can help it. I'm still not 100% and I don't think I ever will be
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I am a complete noob and my KX500 is my first bike. I posted how I've done sofar on mine on a different forum. You can read it if you like. http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=808775 Zero wrecks so far but a lot of trenches and one or two near misses (slid out on sand in a trail)
My experience sofar as a noob on trails has been that it is a very easy bike to ride slow or at a moderate pace, but darn near impossible for me to ride at a fast pace in the woods. It just isn't agile enough. Lots of power, not so much agility. If you are willing to accept those compromises then go for it.
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I also bought a KX500 for a first bike because of a really good deal. I'm 6'4" and 195lbs. I agree with oic0's comments, totally ridable but you need to be easy on the throttle and plan ahead. I ride trails and woods and I've been having fun but it takes some getting used to, just take it slow.
I also wanted to add that I feel having a great tune, and predictable throttle, is critical on this bike. My KX5 ran like crap when I got it, sputtering on the low end - then warp speed, I can't imagine the problems it would have caused on the trail. With a few carb adjustments it runs perfect and I know how power is going to be delivered.
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the first time o rode my k5 i raced it i remember my eyes being glued to the back of my skull! the k5 is the fastest and most powerful dirtbike made so please be very careful i have been fliped over the bars and had my k5 land on me, remember its way to easy to go way to fast on a k5
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I also bought a KX500 for a first bike because of a really good deal. I'm 6'4" and 195lbs. I agree with oic0's comments, totally ridable but you need to be easy on the throttle and plan ahead. I ride trails and woods and I've been having fun but it takes some getting used to, just take it slow.
I also wanted to add that I feel having a great tune, and predictable throttle, is critical on this bike. My KX5 ran like crap when I got it, sputtering on the low end - then warp speed, I can't imagine the problems it would have caused on the trail. With a few carb adjustments it runs perfect and I know how power is going to be delivered.
Great advice Atrain. I thought that the 250 I bought was too much at first. It still has alot of power and would be a dangerous starter bike. Danger is the element that gets the adrenaline going. If it was as as safe as a scooter you would still have time to contemplate finances and worry about your career, or relationships. Not on a dirtbike that's rippin'. All you can concentrate on is what's ahead of you. After riding, you realize that for the entire afternoon, you were able to actually get away from it all. The 500 is kinda like taking a Funny Car to the Supermarket. Lots of power there to tap into. You just have to get there gradually, so you don't wreck your bike and your confidence. Or as Good calls it, your "Riding Growth"
A hard crash will sometimes really slow down the learning and cause you to be more dangerous by freaking out in a tight spot. My advice is to rest everytime your arms and hands get too tired to work the clutch well. Trying to ride past the point of exhausted arms is definately a sure way to eat it.
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Seriously.... do as he says about stopping and taking lotsa breaks on the trail when you are just starting out with a K5.
The vibration is strong... and the clutch-pull is kinda strong too. Fatigue leads to mistakes... Mistakes lead to Crashes.
If you have absolutely NO experience on dirt... then NO... you should NOT start out life on a KX 500. Plain and Simple.
It's the equivalent of a brand new rider on the street thinking they can go buy a 600cc in-line 4cyl sport-bike thinking they can handle it.... they'll just go slow. The "just go slow" part doesn't happen man. That power and rush is more addictive then anything on this earth. It'll tempt you, and you'll end-up "riding over your head" (meaning: riding faster than your current experience and abilities truly knows how to handle) and then something bad will happen.
Start with the smaller bikes first. Don't be in a rush. The smaller bikes will teach you clutch finesse. Clutch finesse is something you VERY much need on a KX 500. Especially for trail-riding.
That being said... if it is a good price... buy it anyway for now, so that you'll have her when you're ready.
I'm just saying... don't try to Run before you even know how to Crawl.
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My first street bike was a 92 ZX11. The MSF instructor said I would be dead in a year. That same year he was almost dead in the hospital from crashing his Z1 dragbike at the strip. Bars through his chest. I learned throttle control with the 11. Used to ride with a lot of kids on 600's, 750's. I was usually out front away from the chaos. Many of them crashed and lost their interest in sportbikes. I already had a lot of dirtbike experience when I got a street bike. Have had three 11's, a 6, a 9 and a 10 and 12 for Ninjas. Had all sorts of 80's and 125's as a kid. No dirtbike for about 8 years then got an 01 KX250. Then a KX500. A KDX200, then another 250, another 500, then an 06 450, Kept adding to the collection.
If you ride a lot of different bikes you as a rider learn to adapt and to work on your skills. When I get to ride, which is not often enough anymore. Most that go with me are KTM and Yamaha guys. Rarely see any Kaws out here. I'd say 80% of the crashes I see are people just pinning their 4 strokes WOT and not being able to handle it for the terrain. So it wouldn't matter if they were on a KX500 or their own bike. Its discipline and control. I rarely get over 50% throttle on the 500. Don't need to. Ride it like a 4 stroke and just navigate. One thing to note. Have heard so many stories of people breaking legs and ankles on 500's just starting them. Turn the gas on, tilt the bike to the left side till gas runs out. Stand it up, put it in 2nd gear and rock the bike back and forth. It usually will fire on the first kick.
Works on my KX250 too. Especially when its cold out. Course the KDX200 starts on the first or second kick regardless with no method involved. Got to love that bike.
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Course the KDX200 starts on the first or second kick regardless with no method involved. Got to love that bike.
+1
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It may depend on personality type but I personally think I would get in to more trouble on a 125. I would be more tempted to throw it around and jump it. The big ol 500 says "just you try, I'll make you pay". Like I said though, I think it will inhibit my learning :(
IMO the KX500 is like starting off on the street on a V-Max. If you tried to work and get crazy on it, it would be more than happy to kill you. Other than the straight aways though... your instincts tell you not to even try. Definitely not a confidence inspiring bike.
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My personall opinion of "is a KX500 a good first bike" is that the answer is flat out NO.
Why? When you are a new rider, you need to learn many skills BEYOND the "bike power", such as #1 being balance, #2 being smooth clutch/throttle management, and so on. You throw a leg over a 60 hp KX500 (which I will argue does NOT like to be ridden "slow" vs. other comprable bikes). The KX500 was designed to do one thing, accelerate and maintain 80+ mph out in the desert. Sure you can ride a 500 in the woods to a certain degree of success, but if you take the same new rider, the same technical woods, and put them on a KDX200/220 or a something like a 250F MX bike, and trust me the learning curve of the rider will be greatly accelerated stemming from the relaxed power. I always say too much power can be fun some of the time, but too much power will always get you hurt in the long run.... (just my thoughts)
I've been riding for 26 years, and have owned 11 bikes thus far, and every time I throw a leg over the KX500 and hold it truly WO, I just have this scary grin on my face and think to myself, dam this thing is freakin' got a lotta' balls !!!!!!!!
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what is the deal with broken legs just from starting a kx500 ? all this 500 talk has me wanting one . i am 5'11 170lbs might be a stupid question but would i have a problem starting it? my 89kx250 along with all the other 250s ive had were no problem to start , i know thats no comparison to the mighty 500 but now im thinkin its time for a big boy .
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well im 5 10 about 160lbs im 17 i have a kx 500 conversion and there a blast to ride but they are a handful nothing like a 250 i had a bad spring in my kicker and my foot was swollen real big from kicking it until i fixed the spring and bought motocross boots i went from a 250 2 my 500 and it was a great trade
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My personall opinion of "is a KX500 a good first bike" is that the answer is flat out NO.
Why? When you are a new rider, you need to learn many skills BEYOND the "bike power", such as #1 being balance, #2 being smooth clutch/throttle management, and so on. You throw a leg over a 60 hp KX500 (which I will argue does NOT like to be ridden "slow" vs. other comprable bikes). The KX500 was designed to do one thing, accelerate and maintain 80+ mph out in the desert. Sure you can ride a 500 in the woods to a certain degree of success, but if you take the same new rider, the same technical woods, and put them on a KDX200/220 or a something like a 250F MX bike, and trust me the learning curve of the rider will be greatly accelerated stemming from the relaxed power. I always say too much power can be fun some of the time, but too much power will always get you hurt in the long run.... (just my thoughts)
I've been riding for 26 years, and have owned 11 bikes thus far, and every time I throw a leg over the KX500 and hold it truly WO, I just have this scary grin on my face and think to myself, dam this thing is freakin' got a lotta' balls !!!!!!!!
+1 ... 30+ years of riding and not enough fingers and toes to count the street and dirt bikes. :roll: :evil:
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My 500 starts very easy, usually second kick cold and first kick hot. So starting is a non-issue in my opinion. If you dont learn throttle control, any bike can land you into a tree, but the 500 will do it faster and with more force.
As said before, helmets, motocross boots and other safety stuff is a must.
John
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my friend(about 225lbs and 6ft) bought a cr500 as his first bike and hated life. He couldnt control the throttle, fell alot and it was a pain to ride in technical stuff with him. he was always frustrated. he bought a crx250 with electric start and is very happy. he is learning how to ride, building skills, and once he gets good and wants more more and has developed throttle control he will look for a more powerful bike. i would say get a 250 two stroke as first bike (cheap, easy to maintain, plenty of power to start). when you feel real comfortable try a 500 and see if that kind of power and riding type is for you.
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what is the deal with broken legs just from starting a kx500 ? all this 500 talk has me wanting one . i am 5'11 170lbs might be a stupid question but would i have a problem starting it? my 89kx250 along with all the other 250s ive had were no problem to start , i know thats no comparison to the mighty 500 but now im thinkin its time for a big boy .
The only reason a person would "break a leg" from starting a KX500 is from trying to start a KX500 with wet sneakers on.
I am 5'11" and 155 lbs, and have been kicking, and starting my KX500 for years with NO problems. However, there is a unique learning curve to starting a KX500...I have it down to about 3 or 4 kicks cold, 1 or 2 kicks hot...
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like half the forum has stated their opinion by now ...
time for the TS to come around and let us know if he bought the 03 k5 ....
or did he allready ,and is so busy riding it he can,t even reply hahaha 8-)
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well here is my 2 cents,
I'M 35, admy first dirt bike at 14, a rm 125. since then i ad a nu. of street and dual purpose bike.
i now have a 94 kx 500, and like every hp. of it. i have to agree it is not a beginner bike, but it is so much fun :-D
as far as trail riding, i really like it for it. the torque make it a super nice bike to trail ride. there is no big open sand area around here (b.c. canada) just mountains and more mountains... and a lot of people are still riding those bike around here.
it is true that before the 500 i was riding a xr 650 that is 175 pounds heavier than the kx so my opinion is what it is...
but like many said, you can get hurt with any bike if you do not respect the element your playing in. but if ride the bike with respect and are smart about it (thottle), the bike will give ya lots and lots of good times.
take care.
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personally I think it's not the size of the bike but rather the respect you give it that makes all the difference in the world. I won't let anyone ride mine without showing me that they have rode a 250 2 cycle first. Not because I care so much about my whole 1K investment but more of the fact of not wanting to see my friend barrel roll it in first because they don't understand the bike's capability.
Just respect it and honestly when in doubt fear what it can do until you have some time to get used to how the powerband makes the bike react in different situations. You will find that once you get a taste of the power it's hard to go back. :)
Even though I took my buddies KX250 out and it was a DREAM I must say. Light, nimble and still had a power pack punch to scare ya. lol....
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I'm a total noob as has been established. Last weekend I took my KX500 to some technical trails with mud, ruts, roots, ditches, hills, water, etc... It really wasn't that bad. It is jetted well on the low end (Fat on top) so I just lugged it in the woods like a four stroke. It happily played along. I did kill it about 5 times but 3 of those times were when I had the clutch in staring at an obstacle trying to figure it out. The other 2 times were from just letting the revs drop down to nothing while going slow :D I agree it is a little heavy and not that agile, but the motor felt like an endless well of torque happy to pull me up a hill from near stall rpms. The funny part is the more I rode the bike the lighter and more maneuverable it felt. Before the day was over I was getting pretty good. I personally felt that after just a few rides with almost no previous experience, I could probably complete a hair scramble on the thing. I would probably get last but I would have a blast and probably finish (so long as there is no mud, I refuse to ever go through mud again, see below). I attribute a lot of that to my size though. I wear 34 - 34 pants and am 235 lbs. The bike fits me well. If I couldn't flat foot the thing I probably wouldn't be able to ride it at all.
I did have an accident (my first ever) in the mud where I fell over into a mud hole (and filled my engine with mud *cry*) but that was just me trying to cross a mud hole I should never have tried on any bike. I tried to make it down a narrow edge (with 1ft deep mud) and fell over into the main hole dodging a tree.
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Ill put in my 2 cents since i went from a kx125 which i sold 18 months ago... to my kx5 which i got 2 months ago. When i go ride i know the entire time that i need to watch my right wrist cause this bike will whoop your a$$. Going from a 125 to a 500 def should cause you to be very cautious. But now im startin to tear around on it and gettin more comfortable.
First thing you need to buy are riding boots. They do tear your foot up if you try to start it in a any other tyoe of shoe. Especially if it doesnt start right off the bat. With riding boots its cake.
This is the first thing i have ever bought that i dont think i can ever sell to get something better. It is the best and nothing can touch it power wise.