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Title: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: Hillclimb#42 on May 18, 2009, 08:08:12 AM
This is my first video, so don't hack on me. Actually the gf ran the camera and I am editing and posting. This stuff takes forever. I narrowed the first round, which took 2 hours down to 10 minutes. I haven't even started with the second round yet. I finished in 2nd Place in all three classes that I raced. I know, I'm the first loser times three. I heard about it all the way home. What do you think Turtle? You guys feel free to give me any film advice you want, but let me say now, "Its harder than it looks," if you are going to tell me that I let off. Plus I heard that one already.

I may have went crazy with the title narration. The 1st bike is a 65 and then he rides the it again in the 85 class, but its still a 65.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYsdyvrFuYc&feature=channel_page
Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: tharden on May 18, 2009, 10:53:51 AM
That is a good video.  What gear do you start off in with the 500?

Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: Hillclimb#42 on May 18, 2009, 11:58:58 AM
Always 2nd. The point is to get the best set-up to run 2nd the whole way. Ocassionaly guys will try a shift, but it is a mistake more often than not. A strictly Hillclimber will often have only second gear (and neutral) in the transmission. That way it weighs less and has less drag in the drivetrain. Thanks. Working on the second round video.

This is a real cut-up version of a Hillclimb. The races are usually 4 hours or more. Racing is more fun than editing.
Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: don46 on May 18, 2009, 12:24:38 PM
I would use a launch control if legal in your series, that would keep the front end down on the start, and stand up, attack the hill
Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: Hillclimb#42 on May 18, 2009, 02:20:09 PM
Not Legal, Don. But that is why, it would work. There was alot of rain on a man-made hill which equaled alot of traction. Thanks for the tips. I was kinda off on my rides. Weighting the pegs (while standing) has been the best improvement to my riding. I was hangin low to the seat, trying to keep the bike from getting too squirrely. If I would have been a bit more aggressive, I probably would have changed those seconds to firsts. Its alot easier to know these techniques than to get up there and do them.  The fast guys jump this hill. Many guys have been retired from rides on this hill. The jump's a little out of the range for the stock-length bikes and the 200 class. A fun, entertaining race, but not my favorite hill.

The 200 was under geared a little, so I was trying to load the tire up, then as a dumba** attack, I basically rode my stock bikes the same way. That 's the excuse that I have been working on. :-D

I know that I can improve, and thats the handy thing about the videos. Comparing my rides to the winners' and actually seeing the differences, then trying to analyze the past race for planning the next one. Its hard to tell what I'm doing wrong or right without it. Sometimes a perfect feelin ride is not fast and other times a slow feeling ride wins it. none of these felt real fast
   DVD's in the shop=motivation. which we call "Garage Racin"

Its alot of work to condense the video, so I doubt that I will post more. Plus my girlfriend usually races, and her class is right after mine, so its tough to get our own rides taped. We are still working out the details.


Here's the second round condensed version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Dd1JzFkJ4   
Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: turtle22 on May 19, 2009, 04:31:23 PM
that video rocked!!!! i like that the chic on the cr cleared the jump after looping it the first time. tell ur gf she did a good job on the camera
Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: Hillclimb#42 on May 20, 2009, 12:33:04 AM
 Thanks Turtle. Did you see how the chic did the second round? This is just a highlight vid, and lots of riders were not included on here. We just started video taping and figuring out the plan. This one was just our clan and the riders we knew would be exciting. In hindsight, we should have taped everyone we rode against in our classes. Its just a taster. If I post another, I'll try to get a better recording of the 500, so you guys can hear how it runs. Any suggestions to add or subtract to future videos?
 We have a three day this weekend. Saturday night climb, Sunday Circle Track Race (5/8ths mile), Sunday Night Climb, Monday Circle Track. Hillclimbing two hills. One is super Steep, the other is Super fast. The Circle Track has two drop-offs in the back straight. Anyone up for directions? ( someone said there was another race in Indianapolis, not sure :lol: :lol:)
  South Central Illinois, close to Mattoon. You're probably closer than I am Stewart...but leave your 500's at home. :lol: :lol: Seriously, I would invite any of you guys to come out to race or watch, if you're close enough to make the trip.

If you like my video, you should check out the Pro Race from here last year. Don 46 brought some super fast guys to this hill.
Nashville Nitro Hillclimb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiT_o6fjMtM
Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: turtle22 on May 20, 2009, 06:22:41 AM
i like to see the super steep stuff myself 8-)
Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: Hillclimb#42 on May 20, 2009, 06:55:47 AM
Probably not going to "wow" anyone with big hills, when comparing to hills like on the east and west coasts. They are all less than 250'. We had a 650' hill, but the property changed hands. (The one on the Nitro Nashville Vid) This weekend is a steep hill, 190' with shale patches, rain ruts, and knotty grass clumps everywhere, and a small 10' table after the lights. Then the other side is probably 180' with a shale patch in the middle. Flat on top, but will still launch you to the woods. Its steep, but not as rutted and bumpy. Clubs work on the hills and change things often, so even though I've been there, my description could be wrong. The youth, the quads, the Stock Length bikes, the Women and Super Senior Ride the easier hill, and all the other classes run the Nasty one. Its about half and half. Its neat "under the lights" The hill and the return trail are lit up.
Video doesn't do it justice either. You know how it is. It looks smooth and easy, until you are on the hill looking at it closely.

I'll see what steep stuff I can come up with...
Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: turtle22 on May 21, 2009, 07:57:18 AM
that nashville vidio is cool. i like that if u dont have super crazy steep,throw a corner in it. that will mess with them every time :lol:
Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: Hillclimb#42 on June 10, 2009, 12:23:43 AM
Well Guys, I have to thank everyone again. This site is really something special. I went from making the fast guys sweat, all the way across the spectrum to being the fast guy thats sweating. This last weekend I won all three classes on Saturday, a hillclimbing "Hat-trick." I wanted to get some good footage, but our digital camera would not accept a tape. We did score a GO PRO helmet Cam and got some of our runs on it. The camera has just two buttons, but still was confusing us. We are getting the hang of it, though. Very nice perspective from the riders point of view, but you cannot tell how steep the hills are or how rough the hills are. When air-born, its also hard to tell. We are going to try a mix of helmet cam with a regular digital video cam and see if that helps make it a little more realistic. Tell me what you think!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBMVu2kV278
Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: kxpegger on June 10, 2009, 01:22:20 AM
Well Guys, I have to thank everyone again. This site is really something special. I went from making the fast guys sweat, all the way across the spectrum to being the fast guy thats sweating. This last weekend I won all three classes on Saturday, a hillclimbing "Hat-trick." I wanted to get some good footage, but our digital camera would not accept a tape. We did score a GO PRO helmet Cam and got some of our runs on it. The camera has just two buttons, but still was confusing us. We are getting the hang of it, though. Very nice perspective from the riders point of view, but you cannot tell how steep the hills are or how rough the hills are. When air-born, its also hard to tell. We are going to try a mix of helmet cam with a regular digital video cam and see if that helps make it a little more realistic. Tell me what you think!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBMVu2kV278

My helmet cam just doesn't do justice. I'll get home after riding in the Nevada desert with two or three flat spots on my rim from riding over some extreme terrain at high speed (4th & 5th). I'll get home and play the video and it looks like I was riding on a well groomed track at 20mph. For some reason the camera just does not give any true perspective of height or steepness either.

Great vids and I know that hill was way steeper than the camera reveals!
Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: turtle22 on June 10, 2009, 02:05:34 PM
congrats on the race. u rock 8-). one of the big things i learned with my gopro,is sometimes when i go to turn it off,it would change the cameras setting from video recorder to camera,thus not taking movies. when turning it off,hold the botton for like 2seconds then let go. if u hold it to long it will not turn off. if not long enought it will just change the settings.
Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: Hillclimb#42 on July 22, 2009, 03:22:51 AM
Here's the Cycle News Article on the Triple win at Neoga.... 8-) http://www.cyclenews.com/regional_events/read/hillclimb/2009/06/06/090606-Central-Illinois-Motorcycle-Club-Night-Hillclimb

Also, just had a good day at Polo, Illinois hillclimb, where the Stock Length Bikes both carded wins and the ol' 200 carded a third.  I lost to two Super Fast, Fully Modded KTM 200's, with some very fast riders on them. Just hangin' close to them is a small victory for the '86. I told one of them that the KTM's were really hard to beat, and he reassured me that he would only use half-throttle this time. I am sure though, he had it Tapped.  :lol: I guess its time to add some gearing. I am still working on that vid for Polo. So far I only have Second Round Highlights Posted on youtube. I'll post a link when finished. This hill is very close to Vertical, and is all you want to muster, if you plan on climbing the Hill on hands and feet. Unfortunately the video again makes it look easy.

Thank you guys very much again for the wealth of Tuner Info, I'm having a Blast this Season!!!!!!
State Championships are this weekend, Wish me Luck...
Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: Dangerous13 on July 23, 2009, 07:08:59 AM
Ha! That was pretty cool!  Love how you got that Girl on the CR as the finally.... nice touch... i cheered for her after her first loop! hee hee  Gotta love chicks on Bikes!

and Dude!... second is sweet.... not the "first of the losers"... i hate that line... cuz i bet there were PLENTY of folks behind you... you got on a step!  Thats pretty sweet!
Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: Hillclimb#42 on July 23, 2009, 10:08:58 AM
Thanks,Dangerous 13. You're absolutely right. Second is sweet. Plenty of fast guys out there, and that helps the ego, to focus on the positive. That girl really humbled some guys. Its like a 30' Gap and coming up short means a ride in the white bus at Goshen.
 Here's a Link to the POLO Hillclimb. Again the Helmet Cam makes it look easier than it is, but I got a couple minutes with my video camera to show a little better perspective. Next stop is Radio Shack for some Batteries that last.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rUZ38GgxgI

2nd round:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYHRDvf7E_E

Thanks again for all of the advice and input guys. I'm putting it to good use. :-D
Title: Re: Three 2nd Place at Goshen
Post by: Hillclimb#42 on July 24, 2009, 01:43:10 AM
I forgot to mention that there were 4 or 5 Triples at the race. They are 750cc, 3 cylinder 2-stroke engines that were originally mounted in a Street Bike Chasis. They were called H2's and were produced in the 70's. Imagine having three 250 motors on one bike. They had three carbs to jet, (strangely enough with no reeds) three plugs to change and three exhaust pipes. The original pipes of course are a no-go. That along with modifying a 250 chasis, makes for some really neat custom fabrication. There are some other one off bikes on these vids, they all rode in the 750 class that I had footage of. There is also an Open Class with more custom bikes, but have nothing to show you from that Class.