KX Riders
Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: iambigd on December 26, 2008, 04:29:48 AM
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I was told by a local mechanic that the Maxima Formula K2 is the best stuff around, any input on this?
Also can anyone recommend a good gear box oil for the K5 and is there a way to flush the gear box before changing the oil?
Peace
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I realy like the K2 it is an ester based oil and as far as I can tell it is the same thing as the Bel-Ray H1R just in a different bottle. as for the trans oil you should do a search on that I would recommend you use the recomended weight oil and go with a full synthetic.
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I run it in a big bore k-5 that makes big ponies that only gets ridden in the sand under nonstop full throttle conditions. I haven't had any problems with it yet But I have only been running it for one season. I started running it because it's an ester oil like stewart runs. Not to mention most of the shifter cart guys run it and seem to love it. But like I said I have only been running for one season If my engine blows up this year I'll be sure to blame it on the oil because I would hate to blame it on the engine builder because then it would be my fault. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I ride some moto and some mountain and offroad riding, and I'm a big fan of Yamalube 2R. It keeps a motor really clean, and I've never had any engine problems with it. That said, I doubt that subjects the bike to the kind of loads BDI is seeing on his bike, I don't know what his thoughts on Yamalube are.
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Ran yamalube for years and years with no problem loved the stuff. I only changed because I wanted to try some of the new technoligy every one was hooting about. I guess it's some kind of mid life oil crises thing I'm going through.
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Klotz SuperTechniplate....and never look back.
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To be fair... It could have been unlucky that I lost 3 motors durring my K2 stint... But I choose to eliminate all (new) things that happend durring that time. that all bikes shared.. K2 was one of them.
I can't blame you there, that's why when ever I do expeience a failer more time goes into diagnosing it then anything else. That probably why my bike has proven to be so dependable, other then the fact it's a K-500.
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It's rare but a lost motor can also be due to fuel. Travelling to a new MX track once me and my team mates all filled up at a strange gas station (due to being lost and late). All our motors ran normally but seized that day - each with different oil. It was a poor decision on our part but also a lesson. Since then I have always brought my race gas with me. Cam.
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this is a good read on 2t oil
http://www.sea-doo.net/techarticles/oil/oil.htm (http://www.sea-doo.net/techarticles/oil/oil.htm)
i personally run bean oil. i like klotz BeNOL the best but its hard to find in my area so 927 gets used a lot. im really looking at going to Klotz SuperTechniplate. Speedway73 hows the smell with that stuff is it still sweet? i know I'm one of them tards that chooses a oil based on the smell out the pipe.
i think this is worrisome
There is no universally accepted definition for synthetic oil. Each manufacturer is free to label their product ?synthetic? by whatever rules the manufacturer chooses
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I use maxima super m .runs sweet, no problems . 40:1
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I use 927 in the race bikes, and Silkolene Pro 2 in the bikes that are ridden alot in between topend jobs (Pro 2 Burns very clean unlike the bean oil). Have read different articles on the "New" oils and they sound good, but I am an Old Timer that finds it hard to change on a known product that works.
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I've only run Redline two-stroke racing oil and just switched from 32:1 to 40:1. I'm very happy with it. It does well in Vegas. It's expensive though. I wait for a Cycle Gear coupon for 25% off and buy it by the gallon.
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I've been using Bluemarble @ 100:1 last couple of seasons. I was a little skepticle of running that lean of oil, but the cyl & piston are always very well lubed when I check through the exhaust port. I also never seem to have any carbon build-up anymore
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I would never run 100:1 no matter what the bottle says. I sure the piston might look ok, but if you mic'd the bottom end you will have more wear crank/bearings than say if you ran 32:1-40:1.
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Others have stated running 100:1 with high quality lubricants with no problems. Not saying I would run that mixture but that is out of my own fears. However, I'm not about to judge a company or its product by my own fears or disbelief especially since I have heard/read about oils performing at these levels. In our lifetimes we have seen oils/lubricants change dramatically. How many semi synthetic or synthetic oils were around in the '80s? Bikes back then were still rated to run at 32:1. We cant stay in the past and let technology pass us by or we dont reap the benefits of said technology.
-G
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So 40:1 seems to be the popular ratio with a quality, synthetic, brand name oil?
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40:1 is fine but it is all in your preference and type of riding. I ran my KX for 14 years at 60:1 (woods riding). On rebuild there was little wear and no carbon. If I was desert racing or other high RPM I might mix 50:1. My outboard runs 100:1 yamalube. Cam.
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It will be a mix. Hopefully I can get it plated for short street jaunts, and then some dez riding.
I'd rather err on the safe side, but don't want to be blubbery, or run hot and seize either.
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Others have stated running 100:1 with high quality lubricants with no problems. Not saying I would run that mixture but that is out of my own fears. However, I'm not about to judge a company or its product by my own fears or disbelief especially since I have heard/read about oils performing at these levels. In our lifetimes we have seen oils/lubricants change dramatically. How many semi synthetic or synthetic oils were around in the '80s? Bikes back then were still rated to run at 32:1. We cant stay in the past and let technology pass us by or we dont reap the benefits of said technology.
-G
Lots of oils have been the same since the 80's Yamalube, BelRay MC-1, Goldenspectro, Maxima Super-M, and more all from the 80's both semi and full synthetic. I prefer castor based oil myself as it makes more power over synthetic and contributes to the combustion process.
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3Razor
I had this talk about this on here and somebody told me you can't burn oil in 2 stroke motor.
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3Razor
I had this talk about this on here and somebody told me you can't burn oil in 2 stroke motor.
My "Bultaco" and "CZ" manuals tell me to run USED Drain oil out of your car.... Silly people Spending good money on oil when your throwing away some for free every 3,000 miles..... :roll:
By the way Did I mention I run Royal Purple stuff now?