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General => Introductions => Topic started by: gus on May 03, 2008, 06:08:43 AM

Title: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: gus on May 03, 2008, 06:08:43 AM
Hi Guys.

Just found this site today "awsome", and as mentioned in some of the threads I have read, there is not a lot to be found about 500's on U.K sites.

Just got my 500 road legal today.

I bought it about 18 months ago, but due to the floods last July, this is the first opportunity I've had to get it legal again.

I've never done Moto X in my life so I just use it on the road.

It's been tricked out a little and certainly turns a few heads.

No doubt I will be tapping into the wealth of expertise and knowledge from yourselves.

Cheers for now

Gus
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: KXcam22 on May 03, 2008, 07:36:41 AM
Good to have you aboard gus. Hope you enjoy the site. Cam.
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K.
Post by: gus on May 05, 2008, 06:31:25 AM
Thought I'd put some photo's up.

(http://www.kxriders.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11492/normal_e_bay_stuff_008.jpg)

(http://www.kxriders.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11492/normal_e_bay_stuff_007.jpg)

(http://www.kxriders.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11492/normal_e_bay_stuff_013.jpg)

(http://www.kxriders.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11492/normal_e_bay_stuff_014.jpg)

(http://www.kxriders.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11492/normal_e_bay_stuff_011.jpg)


Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: gowen on May 05, 2008, 06:42:40 AM
wow! Beautiful!!!
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: alan on May 05, 2008, 09:54:08 AM
That is Sweet!!!!!!!!!! 8-) 8-) 8-) :wink:
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: gus on May 08, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Thanks for the welcome and the praise guys.

Cam and Gowen, I spent most of my working day reading an extensive 20 page novel entitled  "Jetting!!! Again and again and again!"  (Great reading!!) and various other short stories in the forum.  What an insight into the world of KX500 set up.

The last time I owned a stroker was a Yamaha FS1E in 1979 so I am not up to speed with the 5ive yet.

I have realised that although my 5iver starts and runs it is not right.

I have the black stuff coming out of the "exhaust port" and the "rubber elbow", it coughs, splutters and smokes at low revs but improves when opened up.

I appreciate that you guys will want as much information as possible regarding my set up and riding conditions so I will make a list of what my spec. is.

It is a 1991. I don't know of any engine mod's apart from a direct fit "RamAir" foam filter(see pics.).

Before I give you the spec. should I be running mineral or synthetic and at what ratio?

Reading some of the posts I hear of crank seals and other seals etc, failing.  Is there a set sequence of tests that can be done to eliminate or find certain faults.  I will wait until I've provided you with my spec. first.

I am going to a local MX meet on Sunday to see if I can find a sympathetic sole to advise me or offer help (if anyone local has a 5iver).

Many thanks in advance, much appreciated

Gus

P.S.

For any of you U.K. guys I'm in Tewkesbury if anyone can help.

Cheers
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: KX500freak on May 08, 2008, 11:08:05 AM
first off all ,welcome here :-)
u find the right home

you,re bike is excellent with that single swinger ,
also its plated witch is pretty need
mine ,s plated too and that provides tons of fun riding in the city :evil:

for yor problems i would say,

give it a new plug the correct one if not so
mix it 1to40 with quality mix mines astrol R2
check carb clean it make a good jetting
it seems that she,s not burning the gas al the way


Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: demographic on May 10, 2008, 10:25:29 AM
Am from the UK myself and have seen that bike (or something just like it) on Ebay a few years ago..

If I am right its been on this site before, VFR 400 swingarm and back wheel?

By the looks the forks are off a 90 500?  They look the same as the ones on both of my 90s and the 91s were anodised blue.

Oh and I owned a fizzy as well, I bought it in about 88 but it was a P rteg one so about 13 years old then...  LHH 709P where are you now :-(
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: gus on May 10, 2008, 11:27:50 PM
Am from the UK myself and have seen that bike (or something just like it) on Ebay a few years ago..

If I am right its been on this site before, VFR 400 swingarm and back wheel?

By the looks the forks are off a 90 500?  They look the same as the ones on both of my 90s and the 91s were anodised blue.

Oh and I owned a fizzy as well, I bought it in about 88 but it was a P rteg one so about 13 years old then...  LHH 709P where are you now :-(

Yep, bought it off E-bay.

I rang Kawasaki U.K. yesterday to find out some more on the bike.  The guy thought it was an '89 but he couldn't be sure because the frame number on the bike and the paperwork has a digit missing!!!!!!!!!!

So it may be a BITSA

Its been registered for 10 years.

Yeah FIZZY.  I bet you would have kept yours if you knew they would be going for ?3000+ now.
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: demographic on May 11, 2008, 06:39:24 PM
I can't remember who owned that KX (sure someone on heres had it at some point)  but its a nice looking conversion all the same.

Yep I would have looked stupid riding that Fizzy now but its the only bike I have ever got rid of that I miss.
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: KX500freak on May 11, 2008, 10:12:29 PM
eey guys,

i,m just very curious what a fizzy is then  :roll:

and gus did you work on the bike yet 8-)
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: gus on May 12, 2008, 03:24:18 AM
Hi KX500freak

Here is some light reading about the FIZZY (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Article_Page.aspx?ArticleID=2057&Page=1)

(http://www.kxriders.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11492/Yamaha_FS1E.jpg)

It was a busy weekend so there was no work done to the KX  but I managed to get my Z1000 streetfighter running.
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: KX500freak on May 12, 2008, 08:33:30 AM
many thanx for this great info,
we do have,m here too ,we say just fs1 for it

and about that fighter is it a genuine z1000 or else 8-)
i have a zx10 without R m.y. 1991 runs good dyno stage 1 on it

good luck on the k5 work gus :-)
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: gus on May 13, 2008, 06:08:05 AM
many thanx for this great info,
we do have,m here too ,we say just fs1 for it

and about that fighter is it a genuine z1000 or else 8-)
i have a zx10 without R m.y. 1991 runs good dyno stage 1 on it

good luck on the k5 work gus :-)

This picture was taken today.  It was built 10 years ago with a lot of help from this guy  James Clark  (http://www.teamglamracing.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/)and is in need of a re-fit.  There ain't much left that is standard.  It has got a fairly big spec. but not as big as some of them.

(http://www.kxriders.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11492/normal_Z1000A2.jpg)

I will post the KX spec. as soon as I get a chance to strip the carb and list the rest.

Cheers
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: KX500freak on May 15, 2008, 07:46:59 AM
wooow thats a nice ride there!!

huge brakes and nice color and all 8-)
i have an zx10 tomcat its alll plastic but also nice at high speeds
any progress on your kx500 yet

grtz
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: gus on May 15, 2008, 08:36:21 AM
Hi KX500freak

The only things left on the Z1000 that are standard are the side panels and the clutch lever.

1979 Z1000A2
(Modified Frame/tank/tailpiece). 
Bandit 1200 front end (complete).   
Twin spot lights.   
GPZ 1260cc 
(Mega cycle cams/oversize valves/ported flowed/
welded crank/heavy duty clutch/ape cam chain adjuster).   
Dyna ignition.   
Dyna rev limiter.   
36mm RS Mikuni's.   
K & N filters.   
Vance and Hines exhaust.   
Bandit 1200 Back end (complete).   
Tarozzi rear sets.   
Home made grab bars.   
Home made rear master cylinder set up.   
Home made rear light cover.   
Remote ignition and starting (No keys/home made wiring loom).   
Miniature switch assembly.   
Push bike speedo

I had a look at the 5ive last night, but I can't find my CLYMER manual.

This is what I have so far

Item            Type         Spec.

Fuel            Pump          93/95 Octane Unleaded
2 Stroke Oil         Synthetic      Various off the shelf manufacturers
Mixture Ratio         40:1      
Plug            NGK BR8EG      Fairly New
Timing            Unknown
I took the timing cover off and some oil came out, I will assume this is bad.
Compression         Unknown
Air filter(air box not fitted)   RamAir      Foam Type MR-007 (http://www.ramair-filters.com/motorbike/frames-motorbike.html)   

Carb. To Reed pipe      Kawasaki      Brand New

Reeds         Unknown      Condition unknown(don't know waht I'm looking for)
(I have a new set of Boyesen PRO50 reeds and shims but have never fitted any and no manual)

Exhaust         Pro-circuit      
Silencer         Stock I think      repacked

Carburettor#         PWK V563DH24   40mm I.D.(is this a PWK39 ???)
Slide#            7
Needle #         N28M
Needle clip position         1(at top of needle)
Main jet #         170
Pilot jet #         58
Airscrew turns         1 ? turns
Float height         Appeared to be low so re-adjusted 16mm

The settings don't seem to be too far from the jetting chart apart from the needle clip.

Front sprocket      15 teeth
Rear sprocket      38 teeth
Rear Tyre Diameter   25 inches (including tyre VFR400 NC30)

Elevation      Sea level (sometimes underwater:-D)
Temperature      It?s the U.K. not very much 20/22?C on a very good day
Humidity      50%
Air pressure      1020mbar

Until I find CLYMER I may be a bit stuck. reeds, timing etc.

Cheers

Gus
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: KX500freak on May 17, 2008, 09:29:30 AM
d**n that parts list is huge on that 1000 gus!!

but its an awesome ride too look at while sitting on a terrace :-D



for the kx i have this setup

main jet 172
pilot    60
needle  center and stock
slide 7
 screw around 2,5 opened

fmf fatty and a finetuned cylinder


i have splitfire plugs
before that denso plugs

mine fire,s up first kick and there,s almost no smoke after warming up
also the exhaust is a great thing too check the engine state
i often put my big nose in it to smell the thing
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: gus on May 17, 2008, 10:39:04 PM
Found my manual at work.

I'm going to try fitting the new reeds and a reed spacer and raise the needle to position 3 as stated on the "Jetting chart" and try that.

I'm waiting for the spacer to be made so I don't know when it will be done.
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: kiwimonster on May 18, 2008, 06:43:01 AM
 :evil: hi ya from down in nz,  im new here, and its great to see a site for the 500, just a few questions.

1.  when i back off the gas the bike seems to run on or surge down at idle.

2. i have a fmf desert gnarly and muffler boysen reeds . standard barrel.


3.     main jet.   168

        piot.       55.
   
         standard slide.    needle in the middle position
        and air screw 1 1/2 turns out.


any help or tips would be awesome. cheers Darryn :evil:






Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: KX500freak on May 18, 2008, 08:39:02 AM
hey darryn ,
welcome to this awesome site man :evil:

i want to tryhelp you out here but i must know a bit more,
hows your plug looking
does it iddle or does he surge at iddle

look on youtube for the movie of doordie,s kx500
one fine piece of jetting displayed there  :-)
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: gus on May 18, 2008, 09:42:01 AM
Hi Darryn

Welcome from another new guy.

I've started asking questions about my set up but I'm not sure if I should move it to a specific topic?

Have you read Jetting!!! Again and again and again! (http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,828.0.html), it's lengthy but well described and goes to show that every 5iver is truly individual.

and this Jetting Chart (http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php?page=11).

Cheers

Gus
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: KX500freak on May 18, 2008, 10:23:46 AM
darryn should open his own topic indeed,

but what the heck ,help,s everywhere here :mrgreen:
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: gus on July 02, 2008, 07:04:41 PM
Hi Guys.

I'ts been a while.

Busy, busy, busy, Holiday, blah, blah, blah.

The guy making my torque spacer has let me down.

The only place I have found them in the U.K. is Dirtbikestore. They are out of stock and don't know when they will be getting a shipment from Moose.
I've Googled and not found another supplier in the U.K.
Does anybody know of another U.K. supplier and has anybody got Moose's web address?

Cheers

Update:

Found the Moose website and the U.K. supplier is               Dirtbikestore

So, still does anyone know where I can get one in the U.K?
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: demographic on July 04, 2008, 07:17:06 PM
I had problems with an order through Dirtbikestore in the past, pretty crap service as I remember as they took the order then didn't tell me they didn't have the item in stock, I waited for ages then contacted him only to be told he couldn't get it.

Could have told me that ages ago, the burk.
Title: Re: First time offender from the U.K
Post by: gus on July 04, 2008, 11:01:43 PM
I had problems with an order through Dirtbikestore in the past, pretty crap service as I remember as they took the order then didn't tell me they didn't have the item in stock, I waited for ages then contacted him only to be told he couldn't get it.

Could have told me that ages ago, the burk.

Thanks for the tip Demographic.

To save me phoning every dealer in the States.

Does anybody know any dealers Stateside that ship to the U.K?

The days are getting shorter!!!!!!!!!!!