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Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: teamgreen500 on October 01, 2003, 01:10:21 PM

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: teamgreen500 on October 01, 2003, 01:10:21 PM

I've been working on a little project for a couple of months now, and, before I get some things set in motion...I have a question for all of you:

What K5 parts, both "stock-replacement" and "After-market", do you want; But, you can't find?

For instance: Pipe selection is not what it once was: Tried getting a new "Fatty" lately? you can have a "Gnarly"...ain't the same to me; eventhough, I've been told it's just a thick walled "Fatty"...my "Pi-tape" doesn't lie!

Tried getting a Silencer/Spark-arrestor combo? Only a few to choose from.

The point: Some of these things can be had if the Qty's are there.

What products do we want/miss?

I can get our "Favorite" pipes manufactured if I believe that there's a market for them. There are a few "Special Blends" from the KX/SR500 days that could be produced and would be about $220 each. Our "Own" pipes, if you will. Don't start sniveling aboout the price until you read this: We are talking "WORKS" type pipes here....ooooooooooooo!

Don't just think about pipes...what else has "Gone missing" in your opinion...I'm asking.

A really tough Skid-plate that'll survive Morons like me? (Get the picture?)

There are a lot of companies out there that can be convinced to "make a special run of parts" if there is good reason. In some cases, I'd be willing to get "specialty items" made to our spec's. After-all, this is the home of the K5 Bandits!

So, let's have it!

Manny

BTW, Isn't it about time we got Rhinogirl an a K5? We could lower one for her, couldn't we...Rick? Paul?

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Paul on October 01, 2003, 01:36:39 PM

She has access to one, her ol' man da monkey has one. I'm sure we can get it low enough :wink:

Things that you just can't get...

Graphics...
Rear shark fin...
Different color plastic...

NOW for the important stuff...

Pipe - I had an FMF Burly that was AWESOME. Tough as hell and pulled harder than a Fatty
Pistons - I'd kill to get my hands on an 11% + high silicon content piston like a Keith Black Silv-o-lite
USFS Silencer that would outperform a sparky combo without having the screen clog up
Head geometry on the frame changed from 30 to 28.5 degrees (Oops, wrong wish list :lol: )

I'll think of some more...

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: teamgreen500 on October 01, 2003, 01:59:40 PM

Actually, Paul, that's exactly the kinda things I'm looking for.

BTW, Idon't think you'd like the front-end much steepr...that's called a Honda!

"Shake, Shake, Shake...Shake your bootie"...as told by K.C. and the Sunshine Band!

Manny

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Paul on October 01, 2003, 02:32:46 PM

I would at the track :D

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: demographic on October 03, 2003, 05:44:24 AM

Would be interested in the works type spannie, and know for a fact that a few KX owners would like black plastics (not bothered myself cos I like the green) and although I like the idea of the Noleen pipe and Ty davis tank combo I would like it if I didn't have to take out a loan to get one :shock:

On about USFS silencers though, Have any of you lot tried the Pro circuit type 296 silencer?
It is supposed to be quieter than the others and doesn't look as long as the other ones with a sparky.

I would also like Kawasaki to keep on making KX 5s cos at the moment they are about the only Japanese manifacturer with the balls to make a big two stroke and I love em :D

Edited to put a link to Pro circuit USFS silencer in http://shop.procircuit.com//s/shop/item.asp?hardparts=1&id=344635

Title: Re: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: rhinogrrrl on October 03, 2003, 06:14:34 AM

Quote from: teamgreen500

BTW, Isn't it about time we got Rhinogirl an a K5? We could lower one for her, couldn't we...Rick? Paul?

HAAAAA!!!!!!  :lol:  That would be a funny sight!  :shock:  :wink: More silly than anything else heeheeeheeeee

As for parts wanted but can't get....well, I don't ride a KX5-hunny so I couldn't answer that.  :(

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: John on October 03, 2003, 07:18:57 AM

I've got one of these. My bike still makes a lot of noise i.e. children cries and points finger, pensioners tries to knock me down with their walking sticks etc.

It doesn't look as the silencer on the picture though. Mine has a shorter rat tail (the short pipe at the end)

/John

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Paul on October 03, 2003, 08:51:56 AM

I want a "Factory backed KX250/500" like the Service Honda. Thats what i would really like, give it to me in kit, I don't care... THAT would rock at the track.

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: teamgreen500 on October 03, 2003, 10:04:34 AM

Hmmmm....you know...Kawi has an "Engine Program" for Karts 'n ATVs; But, I don't recall the 500 motor bein' in it...I'll check.

You know, Paul, that's very generous of you to call the Over-priced Service Honda 500Al. a factory backed scooter....don't try callin' Honda with a tech. question on it! :lol:

Manny

You know me...not a whole lotta good to say about "Big Red"! :roll:  :twisted:

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: demographic on October 05, 2003, 03:37:35 AM

Quote from: Paul

I want a "Factory backed KX250/500" like the Service Honda. Thats what i would really like, give it to me in kit, I don't care... THAT would rock at the track.

Might just piss on Hondas chips as well.

I mean it would embarass them if they built new and expensive four strokes and they got blitzed on the track by a bike with a dinosaur of an engine :lol:

Can you imagine how much interest there would be in that project?

Loads I reckon

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: teamgreen500 on October 05, 2003, 05:38:59 AM

demographic,

Hey, where're you from?

Aussie? Kiwi? Pommie?

Manny

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: demographic on October 05, 2003, 06:23:37 AM

Quote from: teamgreen500

demographic,

Hey, where're you from?

Aussie? Kiwi? Pommie?

Manny

England (the real one NOT the copy :wink: ) UK.

was it the way I spell aluminium that gave the game away? :lol:

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: teamgreen500 on October 05, 2003, 07:40:31 AM

"Loads I reckon..."

Manny

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: demographic on October 05, 2003, 08:21:27 AM

Quote from: teamgreen500

"Loads I reckon..."

Manny

Shucks, I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those pesky kids :wink:

Regards, Scott

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Benson on October 17, 2003, 02:17:27 PM

I need an Aluminum CNC Billet Kickstarter lever with a modern design,  or a Steel unit.  I have a Prosthetic right foot and it snaps OEM levers like twigs.  I've gone thru four.
If it could grab my boot better too it would be nice,  I can't move the plastic ancle and most times I try and kick the bike with my right foot,  the toes are pointing up to the sky.  It really Blows.

I also need a Cush drive rear hub so I can Duel Sport my KX without eating everything Mechanical up on the pavement.

I could also use a Bolt on retro fit Electric starter unit.  LOL

Benson :wink:

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: mikesmith on October 18, 2003, 07:36:18 AM

I put a fly wheel weight and a reed spacer on my wifes KX85 and it made it easier to start.I just broke my kick starter and the new ones thicker at the knukle,and you want to try and kick straight down- not outward or at an angle.

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Biggreenmonster on October 20, 2003, 12:39:59 PM

I would like to find a good set of tripple clamps at a fair price...hmmmm more graphics options/colors and i am with paul on the high content silicon piston,would last longer than forged and the clearences could be tighter(less rattle a warmup!).Also a set of excell wheels and some  talon hubs,just for the looks!Oh yeah and those uninvented never wear tires that hook up on any surface with white colored letters!I gues i am happy with the rest of my bike!

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Paul on October 20, 2003, 03:28:51 PM

Here is a little known ditty, pull your top triple clamp and notice what is stamped underneath... yep KX250 ;) same part number as long as the fork diameter is the same.

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: gwcrim on October 21, 2003, 07:08:37 AM

All I'd love to have is enough time to ride as much as I want. :(

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Paul on October 21, 2003, 10:07:43 AM

Oh HELL YEAH, I gotta agree there. I think Crim won that one :lol:

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: rhinogrrrl on October 21, 2003, 10:35:10 AM

Quote from: Paul

Oh HELL YEAH, I gotta agree there. I think Crim won that one :lol:

...most definitely...I suffer from that syndrome myself.... :wink:

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Paul on October 21, 2003, 10:54:17 AM

Is that all...

Quote from: rhinogrrrl

...most definitely...I suffer from that syndrome myself.... :wink:

:mrgreen:

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Biggreenmonster on October 24, 2003, 09:17:22 AM

never thought to look at the bottom..Thanks for the info Paul!

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Paul on October 24, 2003, 09:30:20 AM

You're welcome

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Benson on October 25, 2003, 09:42:53 AM

I'll tell you one thing I would like on my bike.  I'd like to have a seperate Clutch cover that was removable like most other bikes.  It'd also be nice of the brake lever didn't bash in the clutch cover like it does sometimes.

My bike got bashed good in a get off vs a Boulder of Epic proportions.

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: mikesmith on October 26, 2003, 06:56:21 AM

Destry Abbott had a custom made one (clutch cover)so it can be done,but I dont think he uses it any-more.

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: teamgreen500 on October 26, 2003, 09:44:32 AM

I'll ask John at Kawi...I think they make them in-house or have'em done. I'll find out and post.

Anther-thing...Team Green removes and fills the oil window that's in the side-cover.

Manny

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Paul on October 26, 2003, 10:41:01 AM

That thing is completely useless. I have a couple friends that have fried clutches because they thought the little metal tits in there is where the oil level is supposed to be  :oops:

Quote from: teamgreen500

Anther-thing...Team Green removes and fills the oil window that's in the side-cover.

Manny

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Rick on October 27, 2003, 03:42:20 AM

The only other thing you have to be careful with on the tripple clamp swap is the steering stem diameter.  I found (by accident) that while the tripple clamp fork diameter was the same, the KX250 had a larger steering stem than the KX500, about 21 thousands to be exact.  My solution?  Purchased a small length of 10 thousands shim stock, shaped it into a circle around the outside of a socket, and tapped it into the tripple clamps stem hole after the tripple clamp was installed.  The fit was perfect.

Rick

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Biggreenmonster on October 28, 2003, 10:04:05 AM

thanks for the additional details Rick,maybe i can get a better set of tripple clamps on my Monster!!!

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: teamgreen500 on October 28, 2003, 10:09:54 AM

Am I missing something? I just run the BRP bar clamps w/ one-piece top clamp; However, last I checked, Ol' man Emig made Triples for the K5. Choose your color!

Manny

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Paul on October 28, 2003, 10:15:00 AM

I think I'm missing something, i run stockers and don't have a problem...

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: mikesmith on October 28, 2003, 08:15:02 PM

In my opinion aftermarket clamps are only good if they provide a differant bar position (farther back or forward than  stock provides) if so needed.I'm not sure why any-one would want solid mounts on a K5,so thats out.They weigh more than stock by quite a bit normally so I guess it's the cool facter.

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: teamgreen500 on November 03, 2003, 05:43:03 AM

I run the BRP top bar clamp becuase it eliminates the "twisty" feel I notice in the rocks with the stock clamps.

Manny

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: mikesmith on November 03, 2003, 08:37:47 AM

Not the triple clamp but the bar clamp?Yeah" must have" a one piece top clamp when you have rubber mounts or one fall and your bars are pointing every way but sraight!

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Rick on November 03, 2003, 08:49:17 AM

Wow, didn't know there was so much consternation with the stock tripples.  I run stock top an bottom, custom towers that lift the Pro Taper bars 1 inch (the same Pro Tapers I have used for the last 3 years in fact), a Scott top mount so I can run the dampener, all mounted in the stock rubber mounts.   I also have the brass vibration dampeners in the ends of my bars.

I think Paul tossed his rubber tower mounts, and has replaced with aluminum units.  Not sure I understand why, as I would have thought the rubber reduces vibration.  I know the bars will twist in a crash with the rubber mounts, but hey, just don't crash  :wink: .

Rick

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Paul on November 03, 2003, 09:01:45 AM

Believe it or not, the solids transfer LESS vibration to my hands than the rubbers did. Anyone coming to Glamis is welcome to ride the bike and see for yourself. This is not going to be the balanced / trued crank monster though. This is a little stocker with a wore out topend  and banged up pipe. Gotta save the racer for January ;)

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: HULKSTER on November 04, 2003, 12:49:39 AM

here is a sweet bar setup....

(http://www.fasstco.com/assets/images/flexx12l.jpg)

Pricey but worth it....

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Paul on November 04, 2003, 01:14:41 AM

Some how I don't believe my Scotts will fit on there ;)

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: mikesmith on November 04, 2003, 07:24:30 AM

I've read a test on that bar and the rider said "it was the best SUSPENSION mod he had"makes me want to try one, but the price doesn't!

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: doordie on November 04, 2003, 08:43:43 AM

I want some rev-lock clutch for amazing starts on ice and it will also fit my other bike for trail and motoX ,but the money 1000 dollar and 300++dollar for a new clutchhub :( .But what a good thing!!!! :D

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: Z1R on December 06, 2003, 03:41:15 AM

First, I would like to see a KDX kit ... Lights, flywheel, ODO.

Second (and definitely under the 'you'll never see it category'), a wide ratio transimission kit.  This would help the woods riders\racers like me if I could get a little lower first and second ... and the Dez riders with a taller top gear(s).

Title: Wish List
Post by: 1alldave on December 12, 2003, 06:35:39 PM

I wish the aftermarket would support the KX500s with stuff for the real power junkies, Most of the stuff available is to smooth out the power and tame it down. I am talking bolt-on complete cyl. Big Bore kits like they make for quads, billet cyl. heads with changeble domes,SST pipes. Since KX500s still rule the dunes, I think there is a big market for this stuff.Duners always want more HP.

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: crazyryan on January 13, 2005, 10:39:49 AM

I agree on the need for a special pipe and kick starter.  I need an oversized pipe to make my stroked out KX5 run to it's potential. Ya, it's a 595.  A silly set of reeds, or pipe, and plastic.  Is that all is on this site for KX5's? I live in Michigan and I say I have the fastest and badest on this side of the Mississippi.

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: 91kx on January 14, 2005, 08:56:06 AM

I'd like a wide-ratio tranny kit.My old Dirtbike Mag says they were available in 89+90.

Title: What do you want; But, you can't get?
Post by: GDubb on February 05, 2005, 05:55:02 PM

Quote from: Paul

NOW for the important stuff...

Pipe - I had an FMF Burly that was AWESOME. Tough as hell and pulled harder than a Fatty

So this is a good pipe to have???  I almost didnt even notice, cause at a glance I just assumed the pipe on my new bike said Gnarly... but it is actually a Burly. And once I noticed that, I realized that I hadnt really heard much about an FMF Burly, if I had ever heard the name at all. So I did a search on here and this is the only post that came up, so I am glad to here good things about it! :D