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Title: ridding on water
Post by: BDI on July 28, 2007, 02:43:22 PM
I posted this In a different topic and no one seemed to want to touch It with a ten foot pole. I'm sure the few people that read It think I'm a idiot but I think It's possible so I started a post on It to get some opionons about It. what I have been wanting to try Is this, You see these guy on videos crossing 100 feet of water on 250's pinned In fifth on knobbies. They just barely make It across and you can see the bike running out of power and momentum but they are actually ridding on water. On a Kx500 with 70+ bhp,paddle tire,ribbed front tire and the perfect run in on some water that was like glass I bet you could run on water just like the snowmobiles do but I do not think you are goin to cruise around In circles. I will bet you money It will work, It might take a few tries but I think It will work. I'm not sure I want to hit the water at 80 mph but I sure would like to try It. I think the ribbed font tire would do a really good job of  hydroplaning because It would not want to let water go out sidways from the tire. I'm sure there's a formula you could use to figure out the speed like the one you use to bare foot water ski. One of those old wet bikes would probably be good practice before actually tring It. You could probably get some T.V. show to back you and video It.
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: maddoggy on July 28, 2007, 04:56:29 PM
BDI, my ten foot pole doesn't quite reach that far. :lol: sounds entertaining to watch though. if you ever do it post video of it so i can see what a guy with steel cahonies looks like. :-o your theory sounds good and probably doable. MADDOGGY
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: mlstoner660 on July 28, 2007, 06:00:20 PM
I havent seen anyone do it on a dirtbike but ive done it on a banshee. It was in little sahara OK had a good run at it coming down a dunewith a nice flat shore on each side. it was only about 70 or so feet across but it was still a wild ride. i hit it in the top of 6th with paddles and skimmed across no problem. just have to commit to it other wise your going to go for an unwanted dip. that would be awsome to see some one do it on a dirtbike though especially if they are trying to go more than 100 feet.
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: BigGreenMachine on July 29, 2007, 01:31:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDgkbYQcnV0
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: MadKaw on July 30, 2007, 11:43:44 AM
DOOOOOO   IIITTTTTTTT!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: BDI on July 30, 2007, 12:08:06 PM
watch this, It's a 250 with knobbies a Kx500 with a paddle might even wheelie on water I bet you could cross a lake. :evil:

                       

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnyTjURH-_I&mode=related&search=
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: mlstoner660 on August 01, 2007, 04:06:41 AM
those guys on the 3wheelers dont seem to be to bright :?. that 250 is awesome though. thats the first time ive seen a dirtbike skim and he was going a pretty good distance. i say go for it and make sure you get good video of it :evil:. you will definetly win the balls of steel award.
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: MadKaw on August 02, 2007, 04:05:14 PM
DDDOOOOOOOO....IIIITTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: BDI on August 03, 2007, 11:06:34 AM
I would be all over It like white on rice but theres no place around my house that has water with the correct conditions. I need sand that goes out on to water with perfect transition, I would like to spend a couple of days doing some short water crossings to get used to doing It.  Then point It out on to a big lake with no intention of seeing land again to see how far It will go. Wouldn't It be sweet If It went Indefinitely? fifth gear pined on water :evil:                                                                     

                      P.S. have you seen this It makes me giddy    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnyTjURH-_I&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig_09ph0eOI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzwzdUXciLg
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: The Flyin Hawaiian on August 03, 2007, 04:52:12 PM
I think the ribbed front tire may cause the front end to knife in the water. A steering damper might help.
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: The Flyin Hawaiian on August 04, 2007, 03:25:08 AM
That picture is from the 07 Greenbriar National Enduro. That was taken at the endurocross section towards the end of the race. Its in Millville New Jersey. Ive never been to Hawaii. :-D
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: Arigato on August 04, 2007, 04:02:05 AM
I'm going crazy here!  I have footage of my friend Keith riding a CR450 over a pond in the meadow of Coral Pink sand dunes.  Everytime I try to load it on to photobucket, it shuts my whole browser down.  The next time Sly comes over, I'll have him try.
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: FuriouSly on August 04, 2007, 08:44:07 AM
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Everytime I try to load it on to photobucket, it shuts my whole browser down.... Arigato

What up??  Hey, send me the file if you can and I will hack-it and make it work.  I remember that day and was thinking of where that video was myself.

Riding should be nice at Coral next weekend....   beeeotch!!!

Sly
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: Arigato on August 04, 2007, 06:44:36 PM
I just tried to send it to you and it shut my mail down.
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: FuriouSly on August 05, 2007, 02:29:29 AM
WTF?  Burn it to a disc and send it to me before you take off to Coral...  if not I will have to run by your digs and pry it outta your MAC..... hehehehheehehhehe

Sly
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: maddoggy on August 05, 2007, 03:13:12 AM
MAC? :roll: no wonder its screwed up. just kiddin.
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: BDI on August 05, 2007, 06:07:11 AM
This sounds cool js you should post some pictures of what you are doing If you can. And get some video no sense breaking your neck If you are not filming It. :lol:
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: FactoryPhil on September 16, 2007, 01:31:28 PM
I was so bored surfing this afternoon and I found this!

http://www.pcracingusa.com/images/products/motoski2.jpg

That might help out huh? :-o
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: gowen on September 17, 2007, 02:17:54 AM
The motoski is for snow, but might work..

I used to drag out in the boones and they always had a large pond at the end of the drag strip and people would run through it all the time. Never ran out of power crossing it and would do it in 5th pinned WFO. You have to hold it WFO or your front end will drop and you are f**ked, 100+mph going over the bars isn't cool. Though the water slows you down alot.
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: Emilio on September 22, 2007, 06:44:13 AM
With my big @ss I could be on a kx1500 and I would still sink like arock. :-o
Title: Re: riding on water
Post by: GDubb on September 30, 2007, 06:45:21 AM
I've done some shorter crossings at the dunes in Oregon but nothing I would think was close to 100'. Both Florence and Sand Lake both have quite a few different places where you could attempt this.  As for the motoski... if your front wheel is deep enough in the water for the ski to have any effect at all.... its already too late and you're going for a swim!  What ever happend with the footage from Sly and Arigato?  There are a few different Crusty's videos that all have footage of bikes, quads and even a three wheeler or two doing water kitties.
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: FuriouSly on October 23, 2007, 08:54:17 AM
Still haven't gottn' the footage of Keith yet Arigato.......

Found this on YouTube....   jeep on water !  :evil:  Wow, sounds yummy!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjLH89uXYmM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjLH89uXYmM)

Sly
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: Arigato on October 24, 2007, 01:40:42 AM
Still haven't gottn' the footage of Keith yet Arigato.......

Sly

For some reason, I can't get it to save on anything or anywhere. 
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: FuriouSly on November 06, 2007, 10:45:40 AM
Geeeeezzzz...  MACzzzzzz   I am off for another week so I am going to bring a thumb drive, my Fusic Phone which has a GIG, and my .......... yuck....... iPod to see if I can pry that video outta your MACaroni......

Sly
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: Arigato on November 06, 2007, 01:41:18 PM
Bring it on over brother! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: BDI on November 06, 2007, 05:00:06 PM
you guys should just admit this video does not exist and stop this sharade :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: FuriouSly on November 08, 2007, 04:11:44 AM
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you guys should just admit this video does not exist and stop this sharade....BDI

Hehehe... at times when we are all camped together at the dunes with Keith and his mobile "Liquid Lounge" toy hauler is screaming --->TechNo<--- well into the 3 a.m. hour at 140db with 18" subs built into the bottom of it shooting down and like 20,000 watts.......

well..... I wish he didn't exist    :-P   but the video does and I am going to make it meet the anxiously awaiting masses.....

Sly

The "Liquid Lounge"
(http://members.cox.net/irresponsible/misc/lounge.JPG)
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: Arigato on November 08, 2007, 01:57:54 PM
Sly, I hear on all accounts of all that...For the video part, I even have Velveta working on it on her new supermac laptop thing. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: crusty on December 14, 2007, 05:37:28 PM
It is true We do quite a bit o crossin ponds up here actually but it's in  dips and valleys  in farmers feilds in spring after the snow melts ( there is alot of water when snow is up to 4 feet deep) they vary in depth and length but the key is keep her pinned get yer ass wayyyyy back and remember keep your feet tucked in to bike as tight as possible (water rips em right off at 80 mph) and pray your front dont drop its not pretty and not warm either. Biggest problem is suckin water in carb other wise the 5 hundie will defy laws of physics yet again!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: demographic on December 19, 2007, 05:55:40 AM
Still haven't gottn' the footage of Keith yet Arigato.......

Found this on YouTube....   jeep on water !  :evil:  Wow, sounds yummy!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjLH89uXYmM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjLH89uXYmM)

Sly

This one does half a kilometer over water then races a snowmobile as well...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QBiBcK96Bs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QBiBcK96Bs)
Title: Re: ridding on water
Post by: n2682 on March 04, 2008, 01:02:23 PM
so this is sorta a riding story but i was on my wr 426 two summers ago up north here in michigan and i was invited to ride with some guys on honda 250 quads there quads were big and bad so i had to ride for all i was worth to prove to them that riding on 2 wheels is so the way to go well i came flying up on a creek that had overflown there was so really bad rain storms and i bet it was every bit of 100 yards across i was doing around 90 id say there was a old lifted chevy truck on one side stuck up to the doors the trails are wide they call them the super highway and some 4by4 quads out in the middle trying to cross well people had been turning back all day but for me it was go for broke or crash really hard so i just leaned back and pind the throttle well i skipped right across and stoped as my buddys just sat on the other side goign wow dude i spent the entire day skippin over that puddle seems to me bike gets better traction on water than dirt you have to roll the throttle back and forth or u get the rear tire hoppin up and down just like if u tried to spin the tires on a pick up truck the whole wheel hop thing its fun and its totally possible ill find the vid if not come spring ill make one and post it. nick from michigan