KX Riders
Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: Polar-Bus on June 12, 2006, 04:30:56 AM
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Well, after this weekend, I am going to need a steering stabilizer on my 5. I tried dialing out the high speed headshake, and it's much better since I slid the forks down into the triple tree, but it's still unacceptable. I have seen the Scott's units on bikes, but never really looked closely at the install. Is it a big job on a 5? Thanks,
Rich
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Piece of cake and worth every penny. The GPR just as good, comes in green and their customer service / support is second to none. I sold my Scotts before I sold the bike and when I get a replacement the green GPR is what I'm buying.
:mrgreen:
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I've also had a ton of luck with my W.E.R. damper. It doesn't have a lifetime and is expensive for a damper. But I have 0 headshake right now and I like the fact that is nowhere near the handle bars.
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I run a Scott's and I was amazed how well it works and I think it makes a large safety difference! I can justify anything in the name of protection my old body!:-D :-D
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I have a Scott's damper setup for my bike also. For me there are only 2 things that are hard on the install. #1 the price. #2 the weld on tower. That's why mine is not installed yet. I have a friend that will tig weld it for me. I need to make a convenient time to get together and he will tig weld it for me.
Other than the price and the welding it's easy to install. Gas tank is about the only thing you have to remove. Oh, change the handle bar mount with the Scott's mount. Plus you have to cut to length and file/grind to fit the shape where it gets welded.
I don't like the fact that it's on top of the bar either. That's not a good handel bar pad. Scott's has changed their line up since I bought mine. http://www.scottsperformance.com/dampacc-form.php?Type=dirt They have an under bar mount now. I'll post some pictures in After market parts, link is below in my signature.
Danger
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Thanks guys,
sound like the damper is simply a "must have" accessory. Time to put another beating on my local paper boy for some extra $$ quarters.....!
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What's the web-site for the GPR??Thanks.
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http://www.gprstabilizer.com/
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I love my Scotts!
Dale
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http://www.gprstabilizer.com/
Thanks.
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Dan said today would be a good day to tig weld my steering stabilizer tower. I had to do some grinding and filing on the tower for the proper fit. Dan buffed off the paint at the weld site. 10 minutes later I had my Scotts Steering Stabilizer on the bike and working. Have to wait till tomorrow to test it. Here are some pictures. check out his stand he made.
Danger
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Looks great Danger. Stabs are the bomb in their domain.
I thought a little warning might be in order about the damper system if you have never used one. They are most effective at speed (around 50 MPH and up). From my experience, if you forget they are set at 3 or up and you are looking to make a technical/emergent turn... you might be dusting yourself off and straightening some levers.
Have fun tomorrow ! Sly
Opps sorry, its a Scott's not a GPR. Anyway, if you set it around medium and towards hard, that's what I'm saying....
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So I have a few Q's about welding the tower and I figured why start a new thread when there is a perfectly fine one right here.
SO I got my frame prepped:
(http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m510/delphipro/IMG_1055_1.jpg)
(http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m510/delphipro/IMG_1056_1.jpg)
And my tower all ground to shape and cut to length:
(http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m510/delphipro/IMG_1059_1.jpg)
(http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m510/delphipro/IMG_1060_1.jpg)
That was a pain in the butt! I wish I had better equip. to use instead of a dremel and hacksaw! :-( it's a little screwy but it should work.
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had to make it 2 posts cuz this thing get's screwed up with long replies.
SO Here it sit's waiting to be welded:
(http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m510/delphipro/IMG_1061_1.jpg)
I brought the hight of the tower down another 3mm from that pic. To assure NO BOTTOMING of the linkarm on the pins flats due to flex of the rubber mount handlebars. ( if you install one of these, remember that! )
NOW, my Q is this: IS this frame- cromoly steel- or -just mild steel? The scotts manual says to use just mild steel filler rod.
Now I need to figure out who or where I am having it welded.
IS THIS FRAME CROMOLY OR JUST MILD STEEL?
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Here's how I ended up doing mine A buddy of mine who owed me a few favors welded the post for me :
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/660/nitro026yg0.jpg) (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/nitro026yg0.jpg/)
What a HUGE improvement in front end stability ! If I was to only do ONE performance mod to a stock KX500. it would be to add a steering dampener !!!!
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You guys could always make it easy and use the GPR bolt on tower if you do not have access to a welder. That is what I did with mine and had no problem. If they ask for what type of stabilizer, just ell them for a GPR version 1.
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You guys could always make it easy and use the GPR bolt on tower if you do not have access to a welder. That is what I did with mine and had no problem. If they ask for what type of stabilizer, just ell them for a GPR version 1.
If you look at most all of the pics you will notice that the stem does not protrude at all above the frame on the 500. NO PLACE TO CLAMP A TOWER! I asked both BRP and Scotts if they had a clamp on tower for the 500 and they told me they did not offer one. Due to just that reason. If it was doable i'm sure Scotts would offer one. So I am not sure a GPR clamp on would work, unless it works some other way? Post a pic so we can see what your talking about!
CAN ANYONE TELL ME IF THIS IS JUST A MILD STEEL FRAME? NOT CROMOLY RIGHT?
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When I was in email conversations with Scotts they told me outright that the "clamp" on styles peticulary the KX500 can "slip" and move around. Scott's highly recommended going with the "weld-on" design .
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When I was in email conversations with Scotts they told me outright that the "clamp" on styles peticulary the KX500 can "slip" and move around. Scott's highly recommended going with the "weld-on" design .
Same thing they told me. Mine was tig welded. Don't know what kind of steel the frame is.
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I will have to charge my camera and take some pictures. Several people in the club that I belong to have been running these for years with never having an issue with the stem slipping off.
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OK, here you go. As you can see, it drops down on the head about a 3/8 of an inch. This is from GPR, not BRP.