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Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: hughes on March 27, 2006, 07:47:40 AM

Title: Bar mount cones
Post by: hughes on March 27, 2006, 07:47:40 AM: Hey Guy's,

I am in need of some new bar mount cones. I don't want the solid one but is there anything better than the factory rubber?
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Post by: gowen on March 27, 2006, 08:17:41 AM: Yeah, the solid ones. ;-)
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Post by: hughes on March 27, 2006, 08:36:53 AM: Are the solid mounts my only choice over the rubbers ones? What about the vibs if I go witht e soild mounts?
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Post by: gowen on March 27, 2006, 09:36:02 AM: Hey Hughes, to my knowledge, they are the only options. It cut down my vibes by huge amounts. You ought to try them, they really do cut down vibes alot. I was not trying to be a smartass when I said the solid ones. They really made a huge difference.
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Post by: hughes on March 27, 2006, 11:04:04 AM: Thanks, I am thinking that the worn out rubber ones are causing some of my handling issues that I posted under suspension help. I'll try them their cheap. If I'm turn the wheel in one direction and the rut or terrain is pushing it is the other direction just alittle bit could cause the wheel to hope out of the line I am trying to take.
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Post by: Timbowe on March 27, 2006, 11:30:09 AM: I'm running solid mounts as well. Much better feel no vibes. Its got a Pro Taper top clamp and bars all fully adjustable.
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Post by: Paul on March 27, 2006, 03:07:50 PM: Solids :)
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Post by: jpinhb on March 27, 2006, 03:42:19 PM: Who makes the solid cones ? Man you guy's are spending my money tooo fast !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahha
My wife is getting slightly upset ...
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Post by: gowen on March 27, 2006, 03:48:29 PM: http://www.monkeybuttparts.com/
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Post by: hughes on March 28, 2006, 12:22:36 AM: Quote from: jpinhb on March 27, 2006, 03:42:19 PM
Who makes the solid cones ? Man you guy's are spending my money tooo fast !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahha
My wife is getting slightly upset ...

White brothers has them.
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Post by: hughes on March 28, 2006, 01:31:04 AM: Denniskirk has them but they say CR. Is this for Honda's only. Can't find them on Moneysbutt site he just had some rubber units not the solid alumn. one. If someone can tell me where they got theirs I'm ordering them today. Thanks.
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Post by: gowen on March 28, 2006, 01:53:12 AM: Call Jeff at MonkeyButt. I had to call him for it.
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Post by: gowen on March 28, 2006, 01:58:30 AM: Hey Hughes, if Jeff does not have them MXSouth does Part #: MOTO-4-465

Desc: ALUM. BAR MNT CONES KDX $ 24.95 $ 22.45

Cross reference from MX-South the KDX is the same as the KX.

Reference:
http://www.mxsouth.com/fastway/fastway_triple_clamps__bar_mount_billet_triple_clamps__bar_mounts_triple_clamps__bar_mounts_upper_aluminum_bar_mount_cones.htm
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Post by: hughes on March 28, 2006, 02:04:08 AM: Thanks Dude. :mrgreen: ordered.
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Post by: hughes on March 29, 2006, 03:40:42 AM: mxsouth has discontuied those mounts. They are sending me the nylon mounts. nylon should be firmer than the rubber. I 'll see how good they work.
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Post by: hughes on March 30, 2006, 01:57:20 PM: The nylon mounts have been discontuied. Scent monkey a e-mail.
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Post by: gowen on March 30, 2006, 02:17:33 PM: Hughes, call Monkey Butt. Jeff should give you a firm answer on if they are even possible to get. Very nice guy.
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Post by: machine on March 30, 2006, 02:18:15 PM: Hughes, after seeing what you all were talking about. I think I have some that are in prime shape.
I'll make some out of the aluminum, and nylon, to see what works best..
I'll get the measurements from the stock ones.
I'll get to them as soom as finish a job that I'm running on the leath now.

:mrgreen:
Can metal one really get rid of the vibes????
How????
Anyone????
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Post by: gowen on March 31, 2006, 01:40:02 AM: I don't know. That is a mystery and all I know is it works. lol
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Post by: hughes on March 31, 2006, 01:59:27 AM: Jeff with monkey butt came up short. I'm going to look at parts unlimited this weekend.

Machine if you can make some I would be interest in a set of alumn. ones. Keep us infromed.
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Post by: machine on March 31, 2006, 02:32:32 AM: I'm on it!!! :mrgreen:
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Post by: hughes on March 31, 2006, 02:58:35 AM: Problem your rubber cones on your bike are different then mine. Kawasaki list them as dif. part numbers.
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Post by: gowen on March 31, 2006, 03:20:18 AM: Hughes, try dis: http://www.parts411.com/acb/showprod.cfm?&DID=9&CATID=41&ObjectGroup_ID=2233
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Post by: hughes on March 31, 2006, 07:12:05 AM: You are the Man. I just order some nylon one from motosports.com. I guess I will order these two. Thanks.
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Post by: Paul on March 31, 2006, 07:28:54 AM: Fastway's are the ones that I have.
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Post by: KXcam22 on March 31, 2006, 02:48:07 PM: Just a guess but, vibration is alot about natural frequencies (the amount things naturally want to vibrate). I'll bet that the solid cones make the solid length from engine to bar end longer (with rubber it would be engine to triple clamp only) and change the natural frequency. Sorry, It's the Engineer in me. Cam. :-D
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Post by: Zee on April 07, 2006, 02:22:45 AM: Hey Machine, how are the aluminum cones coming along? I would like to make a set myself, so would you post the dimension? The rubber cones in my bike are in bad shape :-P and I?m a little hesitant to use them as a pattern.
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Post by: hughes on April 07, 2006, 02:49:37 AM: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Motocross-Bar-MOUNT-CONES-KX250-KX500-KX125_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35580QQitemZ4628463083QQrdZ1

Look at these. :-o
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Post by: Paul on April 07, 2006, 03:42:48 AM: Thats the exact ones I had on my '01.
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Post by: machine on April 07, 2006, 02:25:05 PM: Quote from: Zee on April 07, 2006, 02:22:45 AM
Hey Machine, how are the aluminum cones coming along? I would like to make a set myself, so would you post the dimension? The rubber cones in my bike are in bad shape :-P and I?m a little hesitant to use them as a pattern.

Zee; I back burnered the deal since they're found in most stores.
I will still make a set. I will also post the Dim. here too.
I can only get my Dim. from the stock rubber ones, but they're in great shape.
I'll get on it Monday, that is if I remember after the weekend!???? :-D
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Post by: alan on April 09, 2006, 03:59:53 AM: Has anyone got a pic of them mounted on a bike? I will probably turn a set also!

Alan :-D
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Post by: Paul on April 09, 2006, 04:29:39 AM: I have a new set of Fastway Aluminum cones that have never been installed, I can get the deminsions off them and post those as well if anyone is interested.
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Post by: machine on April 09, 2006, 06:19:19 AM: Paul, that would be great!!! :-D
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Post by: hughes on April 10, 2006, 02:30:00 AM: Update. The nylon cones showed up last week. Installed them and :-o what differance. My solid cones should arrive this week. I rode about 5 hours on sunday. If you have not checked your rubber cones lately get on it.
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Post by: gowen on April 10, 2006, 03:47:14 AM: Excellent, when you get your solid cones, try them vs. the nylon mounts. Hopefully we can get a good comparison as my bike was not new when I changed them out.

Thanks for the update

Alan: You can't go wrong with a set, the vibs are cut noteworthy.
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Post by: hughes on April 10, 2006, 05:02:18 AM: My vibs where cut down some with the nylon cones. With the rubber cones my clutch and brake levers would rattle like hell when I would start the engine. They barely moved when I started the engine on Sunday. I'll run back to back test nylon vers. alumn. After my dislocated tumbs heals.
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Post by: alan on April 10, 2006, 09:41:59 AM: Quote from: hughes on April 10, 2006, 05:02:18 AM
My vibs where cut down some with the nylon cones. With the rubber cones my clutch and brake levers would rattle like hell when I would start the engine. They barely moved when I started the engine on Sunday. I'll run back to back test nylon vers. alumn. After my dislocated tumbs heals.
Now let me get this straight, you crashed and dislocated your thumbs and got up and rode for 2 more hours! :-o :-o I hope you had some drugs or beer or something! d**n you are bunch tougher than me! :-o :-o :-o
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Post by: hughes on April 10, 2006, 10:43:44 AM: Yes Sir. Got lucky and it popped back in with little help but hurt like hell. There was a creek about 20 yards away with cold mountian water. After leaving my hand in the creek for about 20 mins off and on. Headed back to the truck spent about 30mins in and out of the cooler with my hand. Got back on the bike and rode. I rode but didn't push to hard. Sunday night my wirst and tumb hurt so bad I had my wife take me to the ER. They put my wrist and tumb in a cast. A temp cast that they will revome in 5 days.
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Post by: machine on April 10, 2006, 12:50:59 PM: Quote
:-o :-o I hope you had some drugs or beer or something! :-o :-o :-o

Or BOTH!!! :mrgreen:
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Post by: machine on April 17, 2006, 12:44:57 PM: Made them up today, and put them in!
You guys are right! My levers use to shake like hell, but now they're smooth!!!!!!
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Post by: Zee on April 18, 2006, 02:56:33 AM: Anybody want to post the dimesions?
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Post by: alan on April 18, 2006, 04:13:22 AM: Quote from: machine on April 17, 2006, 12:44:57 PM
Made them up today, and put them in!
You guys are right! My levers use to shake like hell, but now they're smooth!!!!!!
Have you got any pic's of them on your bike? Please post it here if you do!

Thanks Alan :-D
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Post by: Paul on April 18, 2006, 04:35:35 AM: My mic is dead, as soon as I get a new battery for it I'll post the Fastway deminsions.
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Post by: gowen on April 18, 2006, 06:04:27 AM: Alan, do you want pictures with the handlebars off/tripple clamps bare? or do you just want a general picture of the area with them installed?
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Post by: alan on April 18, 2006, 06:30:09 AM: I want to get ideas for when I start building parts for bikes again at my machine shop!
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Post by: hughes on April 18, 2006, 06:34:01 AM: Collars for my bike so I can run new style top clamp would be great :-D. I think next month I'm buying a new clamp so we can have something to work with. :-D
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Post by: r1ray on April 19, 2006, 02:24:19 PM: I purchased a set of cones from Scotts today. Hope they help. I didnt realize how much play I had till I checked.
Ray...
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Post by: machine on April 19, 2006, 02:29:35 PM: I posted a pic of the ones I made in the gallery! :mrgreen:
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Post by: hughes on April 20, 2006, 12:21:30 AM: Quote from: machine on April 19, 2006, 02:29:35 PM
I posted a pic of the ones I made in the gallery! :mrgreen:

You are pretty good with the machine tools. :-D
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Post by: jfabmotorsports.com on December 13, 2009, 03:51:00 PM: Does anyone still make the aluminum cones? I'm not the greatest searcher and have had not much luck.

JFAB
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Post by: ShadeTreeFab on December 13, 2009, 04:14:11 PM: don't you have a lathe?
http://www.zeta-racing.com/clamps/rubber/index.html
http://www.scar-racing.com/product.php?id=1202417853
http://www.procircuit.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=60115&idcategory=628#details ?
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Post by: jfabmotorsports.com on December 13, 2009, 04:20:09 PM: Yes I have several lathes. I dont even have time to do what I need to do let alone what I want to do. Thanks for the links I will pick one and run.
I have a cool mount that I want to adapt to my KX500AF :-D and I can't seem to find the time to make these little critters. Thanks again.

JFAB
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Post by: BDI on December 13, 2009, 05:13:56 PM: I have some polyurithane cones that I got from the guys at gpr. I like em they are some where between the rubber and aluminum.
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Post by: ShadeTreeFab on December 14, 2009, 01:11:40 PM: do the polys vibrate like the rubbers.
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Post by: DoldGuy on December 14, 2009, 01:39:13 PM: Quote from: ShadeTreeFab on December 14, 2009, 01:11:40 PM
do the polys vibrate like the rubbers.
Rubbers vibrate the least, Poly in between rubber & solid, Solid you feel ALOT of the harmonics.
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Post by: hughes on December 15, 2009, 02:25:08 AM: The front end of the bike has so much more postive feel to it with solid mounts. I used the polys on 87 kx500 and made a huge diff in the front end for handling. Old thread here, brings back memories. :cry: