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Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: hughes on January 20, 2006, 08:25:33 AM

Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: hughes on January 20, 2006, 08:25:33 AM
Hey Dudes,

Anybody know where I can get a lighting coil for my 87 500. I have seen lighting coils for newer 500's but not sure way they would not fit on my 87 500's stator plate. Any idea's
Title: RE: Lighting Coil
Post by: gowen on January 20, 2006, 03:54:41 PM
The '87 and the '89-'05's have the same ignition plate and so forth. YOu should have no problems.
Title: RE: Lighting Coil
Post by: doordie on January 21, 2006, 08:51:22 AM
Hughes,
I found this on internet www.electrexworld.co.uk  :wink:
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: hughes on January 22, 2006, 03:42:51 AM
Thanks for the info guy's. After looking at these light coils I am wondering where they mount. I have two ignition coils know on my stator plate. Does the lighting coil go in between the other two? Do I need to drill and tap some holes on the stator plate?
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: Spider on January 22, 2006, 05:18:50 AM
Hey Hughes, I read somewhere that a few of the older year models had lighting coils from the factory. That was one thing I didn't save and can't remember where I saw it. If you look at the tech page for the L31 coil it only shows one ignition coil and one light coil. Yours might be one of the years.

Dale
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: gowen on January 22, 2006, 06:09:48 AM
Quote from: hughes
Thanks for the info guy's. After looking at these light coils I am wondering where they mount. I have two ignition coils know on my stator plate. Does the lighting coil go in between the other two? Do I need to drill and tap some holes on the stator plate?


Hughes, I have some bad news: Your coil will not accept a lighting coil. It uses both coils to know when to generate a spark and for timing. It is not possible that I, or anybody else knows. The good news is: (not Geico) according to KXTaz (an older member here), he had an '87 and he got 'er done by purchasing a '90+ ignition system (stator, plate, flywheel, coil, cdi (ect ect) (they changed drematicly from '90 and up) it will work. That is what he did.

If you are intrested, I switched to PVL a year back and won't go back stock, so I have an entire system if you are intrested. It is swapable without any issues.
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: gowen on January 22, 2006, 06:11:11 AM
FYI: http://www.pitbull-racing.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=341&highlight=lighting

Find KXTaz's post.
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: hughes on January 22, 2006, 06:19:22 AM
Thanks Guy's for all the info. Gowen how much do you need for the ignition system? I am still putting my bike back together right now. But I might add a ligthing number plate up front after I get her back up and running. Thanks Again Guy's.
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: gowen on January 22, 2006, 06:22:49 AM
Just pay shipping and take it off my hands. It needs some cleaning up as it has been laying around the garage, but it has a new stator on it (read the jetting thread). Consider making your own lighting coil. Rick has an article aobut making his own. Good read. PM me if you want the system.
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: hughes on January 22, 2006, 06:30:12 AM
Done Deal.
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: gowen on January 22, 2006, 06:41:31 AM
you got mail
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: demographic on January 22, 2006, 07:29:46 AM
Not wishing to tread on any toes here but I don't suppose theres a flywheel going spare?

If so and it's new enough (92 or later) I will happily pay for it.

Regards Scott.
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: Johnniespeed on January 23, 2006, 08:38:41 AM
The Moose lighting coil bolts right onto the 04 stator plate, but sits too high. I had to mill off about 3mm to get it to clear the rotor.  It does light the Acerbis number plate light very nicely,I added the voltage stabilizer too. The moose price was reasonable.
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: aaroncosbey on January 30, 2006, 04:57:40 AM
ah - i've been looking into lighting coils as well.
Think i would need this one: http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/x1446.html

are they straight forward enough to install?

:-)
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: demographic on January 30, 2006, 05:22:12 AM
Quote from: aaroncosbey
ah - i've been looking into lighting coils as well.
Think i would need this one: http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/x1446.html

are they straight forward enough to install?

:-)


depends if you want AC current for your lights (easy but no battery so they dim and brighten with the revs) or DC, in swhich case you need to isolate the coil from the stator plate (otherwise known as a pain in the arse buty gives you DC lights and they don't dim with the revs.

To be honest I would not reccommend them.

The one on mine is pretty poor anyway and I really want one of the E-line accessories ones.

Not cheap though :cry:
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: aaroncosbey on January 30, 2006, 08:07:52 AM
oh - seems like those e-line ones are slightly pricey!

For getting the bike through the MSVA (UK) the AC should work - should'nt it?

The E Line acessories ones look good = but if your not planning to ride at night........

:-)
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: demographic on January 30, 2006, 10:31:45 AM
Quote from: aaroncosbey
oh - seems like those e-line ones are slightly pricey!

For getting the bike through the MSVA (UK) the AC should work - should'nt it?

The E Line acessories ones look good = but if your not planning to ride at night........

:-)


The e-line ones cost a small fortune, if they were affordable I would have one in my grubby mitts by now.

You should be able to get through the MOT test with just a battery stuffed into the airbox, runs out after a few minutes but does the job.

Personally I can't stand crap lights so when I have stopped spending huge quantities (well they seem huge to me anyway) of cash on my house I can uprate the lights on my KX.

I have been rather spoiled by the lights on my GSXR which are superb.
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: aaroncosbey on January 30, 2006, 11:19:17 AM
LOL!!! - i was about to ask about stuffing a battery under the seat, but thought it might have sounded stupid! :-)

i sort of defeats the purpose road registering a KX5 if you spend loads on it......... I'll be taking the more affordable approach me thinks!
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: demographic on January 30, 2006, 12:18:37 PM
Quote from: aaroncosbey
LOL!!! - i was about to ask about stuffing a battery under the seat, but thought it might have sounded stupid! :-)


When I first got my bike it had a battery in the airbox, got it through the MOT I suppose but I think that airboxes are for air so junked it, currently it lives in the bag on the back mudguard.

You can get LED rear lights which cut down on the watts needed by a hell of a lot and hydraulic brake banjo switches cos the standard master cylinders don't have any form of switch built into them.
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: aaroncosbey on January 31, 2006, 04:11:21 AM
I phoned the MOT centre, and asked about what i need in order to MOT the KX5. Apparently you need:

Front and back lights
If the bike is 1996+ the brakelight needs to be activated by both front and rear brake levers
fully working indicators
knobbly "road legal" enduro tyres
horn
mph and kph speedo (cycle one will do)
he was not sure about a stand!

only thing i'm concerned about is the brakelight swithes at the front and rear brake levers.

what do you use - and what ones do i look for?

:-)
Title: Lighting Coil
Post by: demographic on January 31, 2006, 05:12:10 AM
Quote from: aaroncosbey
only thing i'm concerned about is the brakelight swithes at the front and rear brake levers.

what do you use - and what ones do i look for?

:-)


I have Banjo bolt brake switches which are a direct replacement for the standard banjo bolts.One thing is that the front one kind of sticks out a bit but at the moment I can't be bothered changing it.

Look like this and as far as I remember was 10mm by 1.25 thread, you better check that bit.

You can also use a different master cylinder off another bike that has a switch built in already or even Venhill engineering sell some with them built in.

My bike doesn't have a stand either and theres no problems at MOT time.
Title: Re: Lighting Coil
Post by: gowen on February 17, 2006, 03:29:24 PM
Hughes, please let us know how it works!
Title: Re: Lighting Coil
Post by: hughes on February 18, 2006, 06:18:57 AM
It might this spring or summer before I try the system I got from you. You did recieved the check I sent you?
Title: Re: Lighting Coil
Post by: gowen on February 18, 2006, 02:47:22 PM
Yes, thank you.  :-)
Title: Re: Lighting Coil
Post by: hughes on February 19, 2006, 04:06:43 AM
Thank You. I will never beat that price. :-D