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Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: reklessj on September 29, 2015, 01:34:35 PM

Title: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on September 29, 2015, 01:34:35 PM
So Sir Motorrad had given me some info on my old phone before I broke it so I need a little help. I have a N82R and a N82M needle and wondering which is a leaner needle. Is there a needle chart that I couldn't find? Thanks everyone!!!
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on September 29, 2015, 01:35:20 PM
the R is leaner.
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on September 29, 2015, 01:37:48 PM
Thanks Foxx your on it!!! Trying to jet this thing perfect!!!!
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: sandblaster on September 29, 2015, 02:53:37 PM
Just for giggles, I run the R at 4500 ft with a 55P and 168M.
Clip on the 2nd position.
I've only ran it with those settings one time and seemed ok.
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on September 29, 2015, 03:07:21 PM
Thanks Blaster, I'm at about 3000'  60P, 170M. Going to put the N82R back in in center position and go from there. I do have a 58P I might try But one thing at a time
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: b4himdude on September 29, 2015, 03:49:09 PM
here im at a little over 5200 feet. i was running the r on the second clip position but i have a p that honestly runs cleaner than the r in the second position with the 52 pilot and 168 main. but really between the p and the r you really cant tell a whole lot of difference. maybe in the initial warm upo when i start moving the p seems to cough the phlegm out pretty quick and the r takes a second longer./ seems like it should go the other way but stranger things have happened. i wish i could feel even somewhat confident that i knew how to read those charts that pcmotorsports and companies that resell needles with their re manufactured numbers on em so i could get a few other needles or a replacement when the time should come./
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: sandblaster on September 29, 2015, 04:09:09 PM
I normally ride at 0-1000 ft so I'm still experimenting when I ride the high desert.
So far my set up is the best I have tried but I really need to do it right, then go ride....
But when I get there I just want to ride  :roll:
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on September 29, 2015, 04:43:52 PM
Well I'm laid off for a week or two and about 5 gallons of VP to mix  so I will fiddle around with it a bit. Still a bit warm for me but I will tough it out. :lol:
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: Motorrad on September 30, 2015, 01:58:52 AM
Well I'm laid off for a week or two and about 5 gallons of VP to mix  so I will fiddle around with it a bit. Still a bit warm for me but I will tough it out. :lol:

You should still have my number?

You trying to get rid of the rich spots on your carb?

Ive got some custom cut needles here if you need to try them.  I had them cut for my bike. they are much leaner than stock.

Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on September 30, 2015, 02:53:41 AM
Well I'm laid off for a week or two and about 5 gallons of VP to mix  so I will fiddle around with it a bit. Still a bit warm for me but I will tough it out. :lol:

You should still have my number?

You trying to get rid of the rich spots on your carb?

Ive got some custom cut needles here if you need to try them.  I had them cut for my bike. they are much leaner than stock.


I just found your # last night in my Tom Morgan file I have been air headed lately!! YEAH that fat spot is gonna kill me never sure when it's gonna clean out n rip my arms off, riding so tense it just wears me out. I am gonna try this R out again I think that will do it but I may take you up on that. Thanks bro
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: Motorrad on September 30, 2015, 02:55:41 AM
Well I'm laid off for a week or two and about 5 gallons of VP to mix  so I will fiddle around with it a bit. Still a bit warm for me but I will tough it out. :lol:

You should still have my number?

You trying to get rid of the rich spots on your carb?

Ive got some custom cut needles here if you need to try them.  I had them cut for my bike. they are much leaner than stock.


I just found your # last night in my Tom Morgan file I have been air headed lately!! YEAH that fat spot is gonna kill me never sure when it's gonna clean out n rip my arms off, riding so tense it just wears me out. I am gonna try this R out again I think that will do it but I may take you up on that. Thanks bro

refresh my memory.  where in the throttle range was the rich spot?

Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on September 30, 2015, 03:48:23 AM
Well I'm laid off for a week or two and about 5 gallons of VP to mix  so I will fiddle around with it a bit. Still a bit warm for me but I will tough it out. :lol:

You should still have my number?

You trying to get rid of the rich spots on your carb?

Ive got some custom cut needles here if you need to try them.  I had them cut for my bike. they are much leaner than stock.


I just found your # last night in my Tom Morgan file I have been air headed lately!! YEAH that fat spot is gonna kill me never sure when it's gonna clean out n rip my arms off, riding so tense it just wears me out. I am gonna try this R out again I think that will do it but I may take you up on that. Thanks bro

refresh my memory.  where in the throttle range was the rich spot?


off the bottom to about 1/3 open
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: Motorrad on September 30, 2015, 04:20:00 AM
(http://www.jba.bc.ca/JBCycle/Resources/jet-chart.jpg)

Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: Motorrad on September 30, 2015, 04:21:17 AM
Was that a new carb?   I've chased many k5 that just flat out had a worn out NEEDLE jet. (Tube the needle rides in).   Worn like a football... So it doesn't regulate correctly
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on September 30, 2015, 04:43:44 AM
Was that a new carb?   I've chased many k5 that just flat out had a worn out NEEDLE jet. (Tube the needle rides in).   Worn like a football... So it doesn't regulate correctly
No it was not new, original I believe.
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on September 30, 2015, 07:02:55 AM
Thanks Foxx your on it!!! Trying to jet this thing perfect!!!!


when I was running my stock carb, I had a rich spot down low that I couldn't get rid of by just jet changes...I got a #8 slide, and all my rich issues went away.
 
 I was running the N82T in the second from top...
52 pilot...
168 main...
#8 slide...
1 3/4 out with the air screw

I run between 100'-250' elevation...these settings were very close to being devastatingly lean if I were to be doing extended periods of WOT.
I run the #8 slide in my new carb now, along with the "T" needle.
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: sandblaster on September 30, 2015, 01:26:52 PM
If it was about 150 deg F out I could probably run those numbers  :-D
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on September 30, 2015, 01:36:31 PM
If it was about 150 deg F out I could probably run those numbers  :-D

My #'s or Foxx's?
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on September 30, 2015, 01:43:40 PM
So I got about 20 minutes around the yard , I put the R needle in(center clip position) left the 60P, 170M in and air screw 2 turns out. Cleaned up quite a bit but not quite there yet but much better
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: sandblaster on September 30, 2015, 01:47:06 PM
If it was about 150 deg F out I could probably run those numbers  :-D

My #'s or Foxx's?

Fox's..
Different kind of riding.
Mine is a lot more WOT!!!
Not many trees or rocks in the way..
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on September 30, 2015, 02:00:40 PM
Likewise I can go wide open for two, three miles WFO on the border roads down here. Not that I do that to my baby.
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: Motorrad on October 01, 2015, 12:45:05 AM
Drop the needle
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on October 01, 2015, 02:09:36 AM
Drop the needle
If I have time today that was my plan, it's gonna be quite a bit cooler this weekend so most likely will be my weekend chore!!!
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: Motorrad on October 02, 2015, 03:39:18 AM
Well???   I want to hear that Tom Morgan motor running tits
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on October 02, 2015, 03:55:19 AM
Well???   I want to hear that Tom Morgan motor running tits
Got a.little work yesterday and meeting with another vineyard today so probably won't get to it till Saturday. It's coming
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: Motorrad on October 02, 2015, 05:24:33 AM
My friends winery in NZ is for sale........
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on October 02, 2015, 07:57:46 AM
My friends winery in NZ is for sale........
Not looking to uproot at the moment, just looking for more local customers. 3 different people I'm making wine for and possibly 2 vineyards to start from ground up, may have to start hiring soon if all this pans out
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: Motorrad on October 02, 2015, 09:29:15 AM
My friends winery in NZ is for sale........
Not looking to uproot at the moment, just looking for more local customers. Up to 3 different people I'm making wine for and possibly 2 vineyards to start from ground up, may have to start hiring soon if all this pans out

I can run the Grappa division.  :wink:
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on October 02, 2015, 03:42:45 PM
My friends winery in NZ is for sale........
Not looking to uproot at the moment, just looking for more local customers. Up to 3 different people I'm making wine for and possibly 2 vineyards to start from ground up, may have to start hiring soon if all this pans out

I can run the Grappa division.  :wink:
Want to do some this year?
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: Motorrad on October 02, 2015, 06:20:55 PM
There is one problem.... I don't like grappa. 
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on October 03, 2015, 02:06:28 AM
Personally never tried it, sounded fun though.
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: Motorrad on October 06, 2015, 10:07:56 AM
So..... Runs tits?

this is roaring up fast...    
http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,15596.0.html

And the desert is starting to chill down.    Which means Ill be out there every other weekend.

Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on October 06, 2015, 12:45:59 PM
So..... Runs tits?

this is roaring up fast...    
http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,15596.0.html

And the desert is starting to chill down.    Which means Ill be out there every other weekend.


Not sure been working on the Burb too. Probably get back on it tomorrow
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on October 07, 2015, 01:58:03 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LuRfx63h2Fc

So had just a few minutes today to tinker.  my son isn't much of a video taker and not.enough room to really open her up but I think I'm almost there
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: sandblaster on October 07, 2015, 01:59:21 PM
I though I was the only one who rode a K5 in tennis shoes  8-)
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: reklessj on October 07, 2015, 02:07:48 PM
I though I was the only one who rode a K5 in tennis shoes  8-)
Actually those are sidis just pulled my pants over. They do look like tennis shoes though
Title: Re: Needle ?
Post by: Motorrad on October 07, 2015, 03:25:41 PM
Sounds closer....   Keep in mind your altitude....

What's your settings now?