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Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: sandblaster on August 12, 2015, 07:35:22 AM

Title: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: sandblaster on August 12, 2015, 07:35:22 AM
http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1070 (http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1070)

(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3428)
Title: Re: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on August 12, 2015, 08:41:31 AM
last fall I tried the OEM 2010 KXF450 metal clutch plates in my 500...they wouldn't fit on my stock OEM hub. The part #'s are the same from '07 thru '14 for the 450...13089-1095, but they would not slide onto the hub, even with a little pressure.
I could've sworn Alex saying they worked on the K5 in another thread...unless I mis-understood him. 
I just ended up going with the stock OEM K5 plates...and they slid right on as they were supposed to.
Title: Re: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on August 12, 2015, 08:45:04 AM
here's the thread...

http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,13067.0.html
Title: Re: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: alexander-vmann on August 12, 2015, 09:06:49 AM
was hoping to get some 450 clutch parts  :| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl3euCXhpaQ
Title: Re: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on August 12, 2015, 09:19:42 AM
was hoping to get some 450 clutch parts  :| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl3euCXhpaQ

which ones?
Title: Re: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: alexander-vmann on August 12, 2015, 09:35:19 AM
was hoping to get some 450 clutch parts  :| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl3euCXhpaQ

which ones?


the ones that dont fit
Title: Re: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on August 12, 2015, 09:47:56 AM
was hoping to get some 450 clutch parts  :| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl3euCXhpaQ

which ones?


the ones that dont fit

 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: Dutch-K5 Fan on August 12, 2015, 07:46:06 PM
I've tread using a 12kxf450 Hinson set. Just does not fit. Spline, bolt, springs, its just a bit different.


Dutchie
Title: Re: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: alexander-vmann on August 13, 2015, 01:14:36 AM
i think alward uses 08 k450f plates in his kx500
Title: Re: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: sandblaster on August 13, 2015, 02:44:18 AM
I put KX500 plates in the KX450F basket and hub and it seemed to fit fine.
I didn't have any 450F plates to try it the other way..
Title: Re: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: alward25 on August 13, 2015, 07:19:47 AM
I have done it both way with 450 to 500 and 500 to 450 and they worked the same, 2008 450 and 2000 K5
Title: Re: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on August 13, 2015, 08:01:51 AM
strange...since the part #'s for the 450's plates are the same from '07 thru '14, and maybe more years....but they didn't like my brand new OEM inner hub....no biggie, can't win em all.
Title: Re: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: alexander-vmann on August 13, 2015, 09:42:53 AM
i think you have to choose when ordering, 06-09 or 10-15 or something like that, wich migth suggest that the newer year is actully a bit diffrent
Title: Re: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on August 13, 2015, 09:49:49 AM
i think you have to choose when ordering, 06-09 or 10-15 or something like that, wich migth suggest that the newer year is actully a bit diffrent


that's not what Alex's post said in the other thread....he had written '06-'11 were the same...I ordered 2010's.
not a huge deal...as I prefer the 500's OEM alloy plates.
the 450 plates I got were steels, and I wasn't thrilled about that to begin with...and I'm not shy about saying I despise steel plates...so it worked out for the better.
Title: Re: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: alward25 on August 13, 2015, 02:20:40 PM
I don't like the aluminum plates, turns oil black and the aluminum dust they produce cycles through the hole engine and fade when they get hot.  I tried 3 different brands including OEM plates, so sorry it did not work out for u.
Title: Re: KX450F VS KX500 CLUTCH BASKET COMPARISON
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on August 13, 2015, 08:48:16 PM
no worries...it's all good...
alloys aren't for everyone...the oil needs to be changed every ride, hence the two stage drain plug I had made, a lot of guys find it annoying and too much work to have to change the oil so frequently, and fear having to crack open the bottom end to replace seals and bearings more often...but in nearly 40 years of riding/racing, and trying nearly every steel clutch out there, I've never found a clutch that gives a better/precise feel at the lever.
so it comes down to...running steels and not having to change the oil so frequently, but not being happy with the performance....or,
running alloys, and changing the oil every ride, but having the bike perform so it makes you happy.
it was an easy decision for me.