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Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: alexander-vmann on June 11, 2015, 09:12:40 AM

Title: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: alexander-vmann on June 11, 2015, 09:12:40 AM
thinking of buying myself a barnett clutch plates and spring kit from bto as i noticed my clutch is slipping and engine is reving without t speed increaseing, so does anyone have excperience with barnett? or have another brand to recomend?
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on June 11, 2015, 09:48:09 AM
Barnett, Tusk, DP, to name a few...and most all the top-name aftermarket brands are good.
I myself only run oem...only because Hinson doesn't/won't make a COMPLETE clutch pack for the 500.
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: alexander-vmann on June 11, 2015, 09:58:16 AM
Barnett, Tusk, DP, to name a few...and most all the top-name aftermarket brands are good.
I myself only run oem...only because Hinson doesn't/won't make a COMPLETE clutch pack for the 500.
but is the stock aluminium plates good enough?
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: alexander-vmann on June 11, 2015, 10:00:46 AM
and are theese carbon fiber kits any good? sounds cool but seems a bit shady? and ebc seems to be the only available maker
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on June 11, 2015, 10:06:13 AM
depends on how often you want to change the oil....I have yet to burn out a stock clutch, in nearly 40 years.
I've never found an aftermarket clutch that I like over the precise feel the stock alloys give at the lever, besides the complete Hinson pack.
I dump my oil after every 4-5 hours of riding...and even sooner if I do only trails, as I'm using the clutch more.
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on June 11, 2015, 10:09:17 AM
and are theese carbon fiber kits any good? sounds cool but seems a bit shady? and ebc seems to be the only available maker

I haven't used a Kevlar/carbon fiber, so I can't help you there.
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on June 11, 2015, 10:14:45 AM
and because I change the oil so often...I had my buddy make me this slick drain plug, so that I'm not constantly wearing the threads in my cases....

http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,13146.0.html
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: alexander-vmann on June 11, 2015, 10:18:26 AM
thanks for the reply, i migth just go for stock plates with aftermarket springs
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on June 11, 2015, 10:22:51 AM
thanks for the reply, i migth just go for stock plates with aftermarket springs

you're welcome....but just be prepared to change the oil a lot if you go that route!...the alloy plates contaminate the oil very quickly.

I'm very anal about the "feel" at the lever...that's the only reason why I use the stock alloy clutch.
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: umberto on June 11, 2015, 10:26:10 AM
and because I change the oil so often...I had my buddy make me this slick drain plug, so that I'm not constantly wearing the threads in my cases....

http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,13146.0.html
That's a great idea!  I may have to steal that for a bike or two.  Did you come up with it, or did you see it somewhere?
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on June 11, 2015, 10:31:50 AM
and because I change the oil so often...I had my buddy make me this slick drain plug, so that I'm not constantly wearing the threads in my cases....

http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,13146.0.html
That's a great idea!  I may have to steal that for a bike or two.  Did you come up with it, or did you see it somewhere?

no, my buddy had mentioned it before, because I was so worried about the threads in the cases not lasting from constant oil changes. So I bought a brand new oem drain plug, and he took it to work(he's a machinist), and hooked a brother up.
He even made one for his KX450.
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: alexander-vmann on June 11, 2015, 10:39:08 AM
and because I change the oil so often...I had my buddy make me this slick drain plug, so that I'm not constantly wearing the threads in my cases....

http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,13146.0.html
That's a great idea!  I may have to steal that for a bike or two.  Did you come up with it, or did you see it somewhere?

no, my buddy had mentioned it before, because I was so worried about the threads in the cases not lasting from constant oil changes. So I bought a brand new oem drain plug, and he took it to work(he's a machinist), and hooked a brother up.
He even made one for his KX450.  another idea would be to just bore a smooth hole in the oem  plug and use a o-ring or two around the head of the m6, no threads no worries  :-D :-D
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: alward25 on June 11, 2015, 11:57:23 AM
Barnett are all I run in my 500's, great clutch!
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: alexander-vmann on June 11, 2015, 12:04:43 PM
Barnett are all I run in my 500's, great clutch!

do you have the carbon fiber or kevlar kit?
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: Brute on June 11, 2015, 12:42:03 PM
No 'O' ring on the M6?
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on June 11, 2015, 01:15:34 PM
kinda pointless unless you can find an oem drain plug that doesn't already have the wire tie hole pre drilled through the head of it...the last few oem plugs I've gotten from Kawie are pre drilled.
that's why yamabond is used and not an o ring.
 
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: alward25 on June 11, 2015, 03:24:59 PM
the kx 450 clutch pack is also the same as the K5, just the springs are different
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: alward25 on June 11, 2015, 03:29:31 PM
Carbon, it will color the oil black, no big deal, the wear and grip factor is worth it :-D
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: alexander-vmann on June 11, 2015, 03:33:08 PM
the kx 450 clutch pack is also the same as the K5, just the springs are different

 do you mean the ole twostroke or the newer kx450f? becuse if the newer kx450f clutch kits fit then why not buy a kx450f and get some kx500 springs? would be a lot easier to find a new clutch kit from alot of brands
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: alward25 on June 11, 2015, 04:50:38 PM
That is what I do
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: alexander-vmann on June 12, 2015, 04:16:10 AM
That is what I do

So the kx450f has it's clutch design from the kx 500? but will any year (06-15) fit in the hubs and buckest of the k5?
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: alward25 on June 12, 2015, 05:56:51 AM
I used a 2008 kx 450 clutch
Title: Re: clutch plates and spring kit for kx 500?
Post by: alexander-vmann on June 12, 2015, 09:06:27 AM
I used a 2008 kx 450 clutch
sweet, thanks bud