KX Riders
Maintenance & Technical => KX100 / KX85 / KX80 / KX65 / KX60 => Topic started by: Paddy60 on December 06, 2014, 07:04:54 AM
-
Hi everyone new to the site
Just got a kx60 and I'm having ( I believe ) clutch problems
Got a new clutch cable and set it right but when I pull clutch in select gear and go to set off the bike does not move I have not opened up the clutch as yet just thought I would put a quick post in here
Am I right in thinking that it's the clutch plates that need replacing never opened up a kx before but if needed I will
Thanks is advance
-
welcome aboard Paddy!...
yup, sounds like it's time to pull the clutch cover.
post some pics of your findings, and don't be afraid to ask plenty of questions :-D
-
Where do I start lol so I have to drain oil or anything first
-
make sure you have freeplay in your cable before you go takeing it apart
-
Yeah I will disconnect it
-
Where do I start lol so I have to drain oil or anything first
yes, drain the oil...
you can lay the bike on it's side without draining the oil, and work on the clutch, but you could be out of commission for a few days if you need parts....so you'd be better off draining it.
-
Is thre a guide on here of some sort? Any tools needed? Cheers lads!
-
you'll more than likely need an 8mm socket or an 8mm T-Handle to remove the cover...not sure what size you'll need for the kick starter on a 60. Remove the rear brake pedal.
the best tool you can get at this point, is a service manual...as you sound like you don't have a ton of experience in motor maintenance...which there's nothing wrong with that, that's why we're here :-D
-
what year are we dealing with here BTW?
-
Yeah could do with a manual and it's a 98 model sure I did this on my dt125 :/
-
Tool wise I meant anything to take clutch out or off lol
-
unless the basket and/or the inner hub are beat up and grooved badly...then an impact gun can be your friend....otherwise a 10mm socket should do just fine to pull the spring bolts so you can get the plates out.
I've never opened up a 60...so there could be different size bolts than what I'm used too...you'll find out once you get the cover off.
-
Ok will crack on with it tomorrow so:
Drain oil
Undo clutch cable
Remove bolts
Check for damage on basket etc
Remove inner hub and check plates?
That right? Lol
I will be taking photos and uploading if needing advice lol
-
Ok will crack on with it tomorrow so:
Drain oil
Undo clutch cable
Remove bolts
Check for damage on basket etc
Remove inner hub and check plates?
That right? Lol
I will be taking photos and uploading if needing advice lol
with any luck, you won't have to remove the inner hub.
once you get the outer clutch cover off, there should be 6 bolts holding the pressure plate on the clutch pack, there are springs in there too....remove all those bolts, then you can start pulling the plates out. This is a diagram of the '98 KX60 clutch.
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac152/foxx4afoxx2/Image_zps3548ee81.gif) (http://s895.photobucket.com/user/foxx4afoxx2/media/Image_zps3548ee81.gif.html)
there are 5 fiber plates, 4 steel/metal plates.
what is the history of this bike?...did you know the previous owner?...did he tell you up front the clutch wasn't working?...did the clutch work at all since you've owned it?
-
Ok I cannot undo the oil sump bolt as it has been changed and it catching in the frame so I'm thinking about taking the engine out.... I have undone the 6 8mm bolts on the clutch side but the case wont come off there is a little bit of oil dripping but I could have caused that by trying to get the case off.... Any ideas what I'm best off doing now
-
(http://[URL=http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/romeopat/media/kx60/8572DFF0-F830-47C5-9307-0E25CE9C7B76.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i375/romeopat/kx60/8572DFF0-F830-47C5-9307-0E25CE9C7B76.jpg)[/URL] [/img]
-
your pic isn't working....try this...
http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,10040.0.html
I've always found it easier to pull the motor to work on it....but you "shouldn't" have to, to pull the clutch cover off.
You might have to rotate the water pump impeller until the water pump drive gear aligns with the crank gear. This is where a service manual comes in handy :wink:
-
(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i375/romeopat/kx60/8572DFF0-F830-47C5-9307-0E25CE9C7B76.jpg)
-
Never had these problems with dt lol
-
try "gently" tapping the cover off with a rubber mallet, but if you feel resistance, stop!, you'll need to figure out what's holding it from coming off.
I don't think there's many guys on here that have 60's, I've never opened one up, but can't see it being much different than a 125, 250, or 500.
maybe there's someone on here that has opened one up that'll chime in...if not, I strongly suggest finding a manual.
-
Yeah it was the water pump I totally forgot about getting it off now the case is removed is it just the 6 bolts to remove? Been really busy and haven't managed to pick manual up last day off work today wanting to find te problem so I can order parts (http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i375/romeopat/kx60/E3AB4DA6-3C4D-456F-8543-5C7D8FE84BDD.jpg)
-
pull those 2 Phillips head screws out of the water pump face....
found this video on you-tube...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3gp7FrXmH0
-
The ones just above clutch?
-
yeah pull those 6 bolts around the clutch pack....there's springs behind them that "could" be worn out beyond their limits...check the plates too...if you have to, bring the springs and plates to your Kawie dealer or a very well trusted friend and have them measured for service wear.
you never did mention the history of this bike....have you ever been able to ride it?...or was it like this when you got it?
-
Bought it cheap thinking it was cable.... Got springs off just need to get the bolt out of middle to see plates
-
(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i375/romeopat/kx60/CCE90F1E-2C80-4674-B8D5-3EF3412D1221.jpg)
(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i375/romeopat/kx60/000C5597-5C69-41A9-B745-E2B2D44481C1.jpg)
-
Got the clutch out looks really worn going to take it up to local bike shop see what he says needs replacing thanks for your help really appreciate
-
cool...when it comes time to put it all back together, you can use this video as reference...it's not the best, but it should get you up and running!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4B4PL5IbPI
Keep us posted.
-
Just my luck the shop is closed lol I will put some pics on of the plates see what you think....
-
Now the casing wont go on properly! Going to leave it for tonight
-
Now the casing wont go on properly! Going to leave it for tonight
did you watch that 2nd video I posted?....that's where it shows how the impeller gear needs to line up with the crank gear, or it won't go on .
-
Yeah I will have another try with it tomorrow after work