KX Riders
Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: vagassasson on September 19, 2014, 10:56:10 AM
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I am starting this thread because of the lack of info iI have ran into on correctly setting up kips valves. The bike I am currently working on is 98 k5 . It had good compression but still did not want to produce the legendary power that I had experianced on other k5s. From what I could tell the KIPS was not installed properly and the drums were worn so that the alignment dots were not all visible. What I'm looking for is a fool proof method of knowing my KIPS are installed correctly.
I have read http://www.hallbergs.net/kx500/#33 . It is a good top end guide but there is not enough info on it for what I need. I currently have my head apart so if we need pictures of anything let me know
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Pictures of the valves outside of the head on the sides I think they should go in(http://i.imgur.com/pE4fBMg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JNV1YzY.jpg)
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Here are some pictures of the kips assembled the way i think is correct with the valves closed all the way so the ports are exposed (http://i.imgur.com/k3PIiQu.jpg)
Right side
(http://i.imgur.com/OIasI6M.jpg)
Left side
(http://i.imgur.com/XcblDVF.jpg)
Remember head is upside down so right is left and left is right
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Here are the pictures of the valves in the open position
(http://i.imgur.com/fRv5kF6.jpg)
Right side
(http://i.imgur.com/LHz0Fm2.jpg)
Left side
(http://i.imgur.com/hUIhMua.jpg)
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All pictures are with the head upside down so left is right and right is left
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looks like the valves are not closing, Try removing the allen stop stud {kipps bolt mod} to see if they close futher
they look fine on the opened position
maybe somone hase already modded the kipps bolt
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkPU6V-cIxE .......found this when I got lost on youtube last night.....is this the same as the 500's
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If the bolt were longer then the port would be closed all the way
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If the bolt were longer then the port would be closed all the way
then u need the kipps bolt mod ,a longer bolt {about 3mm]
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I'm not really worried about the kips mod at the moment I'm just trying to figure out if my kips is setup correctly
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I'm not really worried about the kips mod at the moment I'm just trying to figure out if my kips is setup correctly
IF the valves are correct in the OPENED position[which they look to be} they should be fine
The gap in the CLOSED position is what u need to fix with a longer kipps bolt [mod]
The overclosing valve was kawasaki idea of a decompressor, {bleeding some compression from the higher sub exhaust port}
i presume u have lined up the timing marks on valve and rod, {think it needs to be done with kipps bolt out}
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Kips installation aside... It wouldn't hurt to sharpen your transfers, bridges, and clean up the floor ports and transfer ports....
A Dremel and some time will do wonderful things.... 8-)
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As stated before the timing marks are no longer visible
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Kips installation aside... It wouldn't hurt to sharpen your transfers, bridges, and clean up the floor ports and transfer ports....
A Dremel and some time will do wonderful things.... 8-)
This is just my backup head I have the actual head I run on its way back from getting replated
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Possibly part of my future boost control and engine management setup
(http://i.imgur.com/EatxbXL.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Vsjonw9.jpg)
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im doing something similar. opposite side though.
is that a linear actuator? everyone one i saw was low torque, and the throw (travel) wasnt near enough.
doing stepper/servo motor on mine.
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im doing something similar. opposite side though.
is that a linear actuator? everyone one i saw was low torque, and the throw (travel) wasnt near enough.
doing stepper/servo motor on mine.
Throw appears to be long enough and it has the power to operate the kips propperly. This one came off another project and I can't even figure out where to buy them like this anymore
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im doing something similar. opposite side though.
is that a linear actuator? everyone one i saw was low torque, and the throw (travel) wasnt near enough.
doing stepper/servo motor on mine.
Throw appears to be long enough and it has the power to operate the kips propperly. This one came off another project and I can't even figure out where to buy them like this anymore
is that one yours? can you get me the info/part #'s off of it.
i'll go measure total throw needed on my KIPS here in a few but i was looking at the specs and they dont seem to have much throw at all.
also, if thats a linear actuator, then its not going to have 'steps'. as in it will just extend to its max, and then when power is off retract. you wont be able to stop it along the way and torque hold a position.
there are linear actuators out there with stepper/servo motors that do this. but every one ive seen is super slow. no way you could manipulate kips like the governor rod is doing.