KX Riders
General => In General... => Topic started by: Foxx4Beaver on June 19, 2014, 10:32:56 AM
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:-D
http://www.cyclenews.com/397/24631/Racing-Article/First-Look--Harley-Davidsons-Electric-Motorcycle.aspx
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It may be a few years to a few decades away but the electric bikes will eventually dominate the market.
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I should be long dead and decayed by then...I hope!! :-o
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Ditto that! LOUD pipes save lives!!! 8-)
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I dunno, they don't sound as cool, but you can still hear them.
I want one if they can reduce the charge time significantly (or make quick to swap and relatively cheap spare batteries), and increase the range.
Think of how effortless the maintenance would be. No carb/fuel injection, exhaust, intake, radiator (or is there cooling?) or cylinders/pistons/heads taking up space and maintenance time. Forget oiling air filters.
Sounds nice.
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From the nationals to your local MX track all you will hear is the sound of the tires throwing roost over the sound of the bike mechanics.
Down the long hard straights all you will hear is the whirring of the knobs slapping the hard pack....
You will hear the riders insulting one another while elbowing for position and their bleating cry's when they get cut off.
No more will be the sweet smell of Motul 800 or other non 2T noxious potions wafting through the crowds.
You won't be able to ignore your wife while blaming the roaring sounds of the exhaust due to your being hard of hearing...
What's this world coming too?
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yup...might as well just watch....golf, at that point :? :|
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They have some electric bikes competing in the Isle of Man TT, in their own category (TT Zero.) but they fairly shift.
I'd love a go on one of them.
134 horsepower and 162 foot pounds of torque isn't too shabby.
(http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/b4ba55cc4178e0796ff94f15c298f30/200009301/mugen-shiden-san.jpg)
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There has been several recent advancements in battery technology offering more storage capacity, quicker charging, and quicker power dump.
It's just a matter of time....
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134 horsepower and 162 foot pounds of torque isn't too shabby.
I remember several years back, those idiots at OCC did an episode where they built an electric bike...and when they were testing it, it was quite impressive the acceleration it had.
I remember a couple of them being scared of it, because back then it had a bit of a toggle switch power band.
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"You will hear the riders insulting one another while elbowing for position and their bleating cry's when they get cut off."
That would be excellent! With brushless motors the RPM is nearly topless on electrics. Power is good, but battery life is still an issue though it is getting better.
Have my first FI motorcycle and like that. No more tearing apart carbs with the struggle to get it out. Hook up the laptop or plug in the module and 'Shazam!'
Who among you wants to go back to points? Or constant 'fiddling' with the bikes because you HAD to, not because you wanted to modify or 'try' something. I see (and know some of) the kids wanting to live the 50's/60's lifestyle. Great, as a hobby, or a fad. Live it? Yes I did, and it was a pain in the rear.
A good example of how far technology has come is my Ninja track bike. A season of running and end of track days oil change. Check valve adjustment. Nope, still good. Timing? CDI and set. All good. Tires and chain are adjusted. All bolts are still tight. Ready for this year. All this at a consistent 9-12,000 RPM on a 14K redline. When the electrics come down in price and have more life I will be interested.
Until then, when is KTM or Husqvarna or someone else going to come out with a street legal 2 stroke again? Money in pocket. Waiting.
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I wish everything had points. I have less problems with my points ignition vehicles than my modern ones. No joke. And if they do break out on the road I can normally fix them with a stick and a flat Rock. If I don't just rub them on the bumper.
"You will hear the riders insulting one another while elbowing for position and their bleating cry's when they get cut off."
That would be excellent! With brushless motors the RPM is nearly topless on electrics. Power is good, but battery life is still an issue though it is getting better.
Have my first FI motorcycle and like that. No more tearing apart carbs with the struggle to get it out. Hook up the laptop or plug in the module and 'Shazam!'
Who among you wants to go back to points? Or constant 'fiddling' with the bikes because you HAD to, not because you wanted to modify or 'try' something. I see (and know some of) the kids wanting to live the 50's/60's lifestyle. Great, as a hobby, or a fad. Live it? Yes I did, and it was a pain in the rear.
A good example of how far technology has come is my Ninja track bike. A season of running and end of track days oil change. Check valve adjustment. Nope, still good. Timing? CDI and set. All good. Tires and chain are adjusted. All bolts are still tight. Ready for this year. All this at a consistent 9-12,000 RPM on a 14K redline. When the electrics come down in price and have more life I will be interested.
Until then, when is KTM or Husqvarna or someone else going to come out with a street legal 2 stroke again? Money in pocket. Waiting.
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I did a lot of that too, but now? Naw, rather not. Perhaps you taxed your 'non points' stuff harder then I have but I have had way less problems. The early stuff? Sure, but not since the 80's or so.
I am going to state that if you REALLY wanted points you could do it fairly easily. I have done it so I know you can too. :evil: Little welding, little machining, add a resistor and done deal. :-D Can't wait to see that thread! :lol:
I will concede if 'point-less' break down you are done for the most part.
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Sweet I'm converting my k5 to points and femsatronic now just to make a point.
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:-D
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more silence...
http://www.cyclenews.com/304/25060/Racing-Article/MotoTrials--Sherco-Goes-Electric.aspx
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It's just a matter of time before someone makes a serious attempt at building a competitive MX bike.
Any guess how long that will be, within 5 years? within 10 years?
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I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of the big names are already testing some, or at least discussing the idea....along with snowmobiles, jet-ski's....sigh.
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short video of some testing....the rider looks cramped in a couple of the shots...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuhPZTrSmBw
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It's just a matter of time before someone makes a serious attempt at building a competitive MX bike.
Any guess how long that will be, within 5 years? within 10 years?
KTM has one, well almost. And Altamotors looks like they have one that could do it.
I would want to try one, only I won't give up my 2T.
Dutchie
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http://youtu.be/mUtwfYFD5gs
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http://youtu.be/mUtwfYFD5gs
haha...wow.
I don't think I could ever go to a race that consisted of electric bikes after watching that :|....since the two main reasons I go to any type of race is for, the sound...and for the smell of race fuel...whether it's VP, Cam2, Elf, Nitro...etc. :-D
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I think some of the adrenaline rush is lost too. The scream of the engine and banging gears is a big part of racing to me!
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I think some of the adrenaline rush is lost too. The scream of the engine and banging gears is a big part of racing to me!
yup...and you could probably look over at the person you're passing, and say in a normal tone of voice..."see ya mutha f***a"...while you're doing 150mph, and he'd hear you just fine. :-D :lol:
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found this horrible sounding video...just horrible :cry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLdp1Kz0naI
they certainly have some serious acceleration though!
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Ronnie Renner tearin it up on KTM's "E"...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-AzDZt1IcM
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Have you guys seen the American made Alta? It looks intriguing, although I hate the concept of anything but a two stroke.
http://dirtbikemagazine.com/home-news/alta-electric-bike-debut (http://dirtbikemagazine.com/home-news/alta-electric-bike-debut)
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I think the toxicity of batteries is trash & electric would never work for the range I ride but...
Think rc cars brushless motors & the like , electric torque & all power now. If you were just running motos , direct drive , get down to mountain bike + battery & electric motor type weight & the possibilities could be there if the weight was lower & you said f-the range. Not that I'm a fan by any means but if you like rc cars & you've seen the progress in the traxxas rustler for example...
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I actually stumbled onto an electric F1 race yesterday too on Foxsports1 or ESPN2...it just sucked...cause I love listening to the scream of an F1 engine...but it was sooo quiet.
the 2 main reasons I go to races is for the sound of a gas motor being worked...and for the smell of high dollar fuel. The smell of Elf 2T was the best at the Nationals.
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Rode in Lucas racings prototype electric short course car this weekend
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Rode in Lucas racings prototype electric short course car this weekend
This one ?
http://www.teamassociated.com/cars_and_trucks/SC10/Race-Spec/
Couldn't find it online , must be really new, or I'm daft probably the later
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Cool was wondering if you were just referring to the sound. Those short course trucks rev. Had to be pretty d**n awesome. Impressions?
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Yes just like that one. Only big enough to ride in. Haha. 24" suspension travel. 480volts of lipo. Fawking awesomeness.
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Single engine with a Trans or motor per wheel , direct drive? Curious how they scale up from rc with battery & electric motor weight. Did it at least have the cool RC gear whine
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Have any of you watched the Formula E championship? It's Formula 1 with electric motors, the lack of noise takes away a lot of the sense of speed. There are some cool electric bikes out there, especially for kids. I really like the Brapp Silent and if I ever had the money I would buy a Stealth electric mountain bike.
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Have any of you watched the Formula E championship? It's Formula 1 with electric motors, the lack of noise takes away a lot of the sense of speed.
yup...it was on over the weekend....I didn't like it. :|
I actually stumbled onto an electric F1 race yesterday too on Foxsports1 or ESPN2...it just sucked...cause I love listening to the scream of an F1 engine...but it was sooo quiet.
the 2 main reasons I go to races is for the sound of a gas motor being worked...and for the smell of high dollar fuel. The smell of Elf 2T was the best at the Nationals.
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more silence...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjm2_Zay-JQ
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my input on the topic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ
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my input on the topic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ
that was good! :lol:
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my input on the topic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ
Perfect response! I know these things are coming, I just hope it isn't for a really long time. Something about riding in silence that just takes the fun out of it.
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electric supercross...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XSUhG9MAXA
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electric supercross...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XSUhG9MAXA
Those bikes sound like an R/C car or truck.
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the latest...
http://racerxonline.com/2016/01/31/redux-the-future-just-got-here
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Getting closer :-D
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it is...but I'm still not worried about it.
I look at it this way....
you/we can still find parts fairly easy for 30+ year old bikes on-line, not all parts, but a lot.
with Yamaha, KTM, and other manufacturers still producing 2T's....by the time another 30 years go's by, I'll be in my mid 70's, if not dead....and I wouldn't have any problem with having to ride a Ya-mama-ha or another brand if it means being able to stay on a 2T, for parts availability. 8-)
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the latest...
http://racerxonline.com/2016/01/31/redux-the-future-just-got-here
here's part 2....
http://racerxonline.com/2016/02/07/redux-the-future-just-got-here-part-2
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Running it off a cliff (by accident of course) & causing a LiPo fire would KILL ME :-o
although no burning me out in the desert where there isn't a tree within a thousand square miles of me.
Torque is good for the tight woods & rocky single track stuff but HORSEPOWER IS SPEED
looking for a youTube featuring a Skat-Trac Hauler PADDLE shod electric ... at Dumont or Glamis dunes :evil:
Spare battery IS A MUST
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Wharton's thoughts on the new Alta...
http://racerxonline.com/2017/04/14/racer-x-films-testing-alta-motors-redshift-mx
(http://rxi.iscdn.net/2017/04/142143_2017-04-12_kscott_alta-milestone_-2.jpg?h=603&w=926&q=50&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=1.25)
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Interesting article...some good points brought up
https://www.cyclenews.com/2019/06/article/cycle-news-guest-editorial/
(https://www.cyclenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Cycle-News-Guest-Column.jpg)
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You will love this one Foxx! LMFAO
https://electrek.co/2019/06/11/taiga-motors-electric-snowmobiles/
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Not bad....they look a lot like an Arctic Cat.
I could never own an electric sled...I love how my 800 sounds with the MBRP Can.
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Not bad....they look a lot like an Arctic Cat.
I could never own an electric sled...I love how my 800 sounds with the MBRP Can.
No doubt not to mention how fun it would be to have a dead battery way out in the woods in waist deep snow. I hate this whole electric personally 😠
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No doubt not to mention how fun it would be to have a dead battery way out in the woods in waist deep snow. I hate this whole electric personally 😠
Yeah it'll be interesting to see how well the batteries hold up in -30 degrees or colder! :-o