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Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Original => Topic started by: sandblaster on March 26, 2014, 04:34:12 PM

Title: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: sandblaster on March 26, 2014, 04:34:12 PM
Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Alward25 sent me a link to this clutch basket:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ProX-Clutch-Basket-17-4389-for-Kawasaki/331146290009?_trksid=p2050601.c100085.m2372&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140211132617%26meid%3D5772321947346332150%26pid%3D100085%26prg%3D20140211132617%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D331146290009%26clkid%3D5772323546617715327&_qi=RTM1562569 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ProX-Clutch-Basket-17-4389-for-Kawasaki/331146290009?_trksid=p2050601.c100085.m2372&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140211132617%26meid%3D5772321947346332150%26pid%3D100085%26prg%3D20140211132617%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D331146290009%26clkid%3D5772323546617715327&_qi=RTM1562569)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDU5WDQwMA==/z/EZsAAMXQVT9TF8m4/$_12.JPG)

Note the interchange...

Part: ProX Clutch Basket

Part Number: 17.4389

Applications & Specifications

Kawasaki KX250 1990-1991

Kawasaki KX500 1986-2004

Prox clutch baskets are precision machined from heat treated aircraft type aluminum alloy to O.E. precision standars
Hard anodized
Teflon coated

Has anyone tried one?
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: sandblaster on March 26, 2014, 04:46:19 PM
I sent the ebay seller a request for the basket weight.
It will be interesting comparing that to a stock vs Hinson basket.
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: Motorrad on March 27, 2014, 01:56:38 AM
looks cast.

how bout the mitika one from over the pond?
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: alward25 on March 27, 2014, 02:13:05 AM
Says it is machined
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on March 27, 2014, 04:09:21 AM
My buddy runs one in his 2009 or 10 KXF450 and hasn't had any problems that I know of, I think it's been a little over a season that he's been runnin it.
But I've also heard guys say negative things too, that they don't last....all ya can do is try one out and see how it does for your type of riding. The clutch abusers will burn through em quicker than the leisure riders.
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: Motorrad on March 27, 2014, 06:07:25 AM
Says it is machined

You can machine cast parts.   
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: alward25 on March 27, 2014, 05:20:00 PM
Then why would they not list it as cast.  Listing says machined from aircraft grade aluminum.  Should be better than the pot metal piece they come with, I would think anyway.
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: dirk_411 on April 05, 2014, 09:35:59 AM
I spoke to a guy Hans from proX last summer.   I was making an inquiry about the K5 baskets.  I told him any vendors I dealt with were telling me the K5 baskets proX  made were cast similar to oem. He replied and ensured me tge are "not" casted and are machined billet baskets.  If I still had the email id copy and paste it for you to read.  He actually seemed concerned that I said vendors/distributors in north america claimed they were casted.  I told him to check out item #'s and ebay vendors for himself.  True story here.

I was surprised to see you talking about this very issue
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: sandblaster on April 05, 2014, 09:58:17 AM
Then the question remains... What is the surface hardness of the tangs, and how deep does it go?
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: DoldGuy on April 05, 2014, 01:36:57 PM
The listing states "Hard Anodized"....It is my understanding that you can not do that to cast parts.

DoldGuy
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: sandblaster on April 05, 2014, 04:38:26 PM
It's difficult to hard anodize cast aluminum with a surface finish of over .0004" with any kind of uniformity.
But there are processes that can be used to overcome those limitations.
But based on what dirk_411 said that may all be irrelevant.
I think someone should buy one and do a severe duty test  :-o
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: dirk_411 on April 06, 2014, 01:59:11 AM
I agree with SB and someone who needs a basket buy one and do a follow up.  I would but in order for me to run the K5 basket I have to demo a stock basket to claim the back gear for my swap.  I have no issues doing that for a proven Hinson
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on April 06, 2014, 02:10:36 AM
I think someone should buy one and do a severe duty test  :-o

I agree with SB and someone who needs a basket buy one and do a follow up.

all ya can do is try one out and see how it does for your type of riding.

yup that's what I say....now the question is...WHO'S gonna be the guinea pig??....not gonna be me, as I piss away enough money as it is :lol:
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: alward25 on May 14, 2014, 03:03:29 AM
reply from Pro-X, question answered.

Good morning Mr. Ward,
 
Thank you for your interest in our ProX parts.
The Clutch Basket you are looking for id the following;
 
17.4389: Clutch Basket Kawasaki KX250 '90-91 + KX500 '86-04
This basket is delivered with the rubber cushions.
 
The material is a Billet 7075 Alloy.
I have attached a list with ProX USA distributors.
 
Thanks and best regards,
 
Peter Schalk
International Sales
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: sandblaster on May 14, 2014, 03:24:42 AM
Info taken diret from Pro-X website:   

 ProX Clutch Baskets are precision machined from heat treated aircraft type aluminum alloy to O.E. precision standards. Sophisticated hard-anodising guarantees extended life under severest racing conditions. Each kit comes with the necessary hardware to make installation a snap.

    Design
    Our clutch baskets are designed to maximize strength through “feature aligned grain flow” and utilizes as-forged features that can only be produced using our precision process. We are able to produce higher mechanical properties and resistance to impact and fatigue.

   
    Made from Aerospace alloys
    Our certified raw materials produce the highest quality finish products.

    Hard anodized
    All our clutch baskets are hard anodyzed to produce an ultra tough abrasive resistant surface and ensures a long life of smooth clutch operation through the elimination of wear on the sides of the clutch basket tabs.

    Teflon coated
    The special added Teflon coating seals the coating to create a near frictionless surface for the clutch plate tabs to glide upon.

    Installation materials supplied
    All our clutch baskets comes with pre-applied thread locker fasteners and an inbus tool.

I had no idea what a inbus tool is so I looked it up.
It's a Hex or Allen head tool.  :roll:
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: Maicoman on May 14, 2014, 12:13:36 PM
I'll be ordering one in the next few days. Been waiting three weeks for gears. Must be coming from Japan.
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: dirk_411 on May 15, 2014, 09:20:37 AM
Interested to see how you like the basket
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: sandblaster on May 15, 2014, 09:49:36 AM
Interested to see how you like the basket

+1
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: Maicoman on May 29, 2014, 06:44:32 AM
Stock basket weighs 395 grams Pro-x 366. Paper work says the basket is milled instead of cast and looks it.  They imply a guarantee if the importer puts the clutch together and then in finer print is a disclaimer saying it is a competition product. Either way it's nice to have something new.
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: sandblaster on May 29, 2014, 06:47:30 AM
Nice...
Let us know how it performs over the years....
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: Maicoman on May 30, 2014, 07:49:04 AM
Just a note. They use 8 screws to secure the primary gear to the basket. The first pic in the thread shows 3.
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: dirk_411 on July 11, 2014, 01:15:52 PM
Any updates?  Did you have a picture of it before and after install?





Quote from: Maicoman link=topic=12596.msg105435#msg105435 edate=1401479344
Just a note. They use 8 screws to secure the primary gear to the basket. The first pic in the thread shows 3.
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: dirk_411 on November 19, 2014, 02:50:21 AM
Anyone hear from this guy about how he liked the pro x basket?  He hasn't been active since june, I sent him a gmail message today.
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on November 19, 2014, 06:25:24 AM
surprisingly, I've been hearing fairly good things about them still.
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: dirk_411 on November 19, 2014, 07:38:51 AM
Right on. Good to hear
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: vagassasson on December 11, 2014, 10:30:42 AM
So this is my pro x clutch basket after 20hrs of ride time on it. I was pretty impressed by it right out of the box.
So far its held up good.(http://i.imgur.com/cCfh4LT.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/k8dpcOS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/59jw6sH.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hirzcu0.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NqjX0m3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/FPKb8cn.jpg)
Any questions?
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: dirk_411 on December 14, 2014, 05:27:15 AM
Nice
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: byron909 on December 15, 2014, 11:58:52 PM
These are good baskets. Like someone said, mitaka is who makes them.
I have 5 cr500s with the prox/ mitaka basket, and a kx125 and they are all good stuff.
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: alexander-vmann on August 06, 2015, 11:30:11 PM
looking to get a new basket for my 87 becuse the one i have now wobbels like the bearing or something is bad, and has heavy grooves in it, so would anyone recomend me this basket or any other one, or should i buy a used oem?
Title: Re: Pro-X Clutch basket for 86-04 kx500
Post by: dirk_411 on August 07, 2015, 02:47:31 AM
Nice to hear positive feedback