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Title: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Sideplater on May 07, 2013, 08:03:45 PM
Don't kick your 500 over wearing trackshoes ...

This is what happened to me to me kicking my '04 over 3 days ago.
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: motopunk on May 07, 2013, 09:13:52 PM
oouuchhhh...  :cry:

i kick the beast only with mx-boots or my s3- safety work shoes . my leg was 2 times stronger than the k5 kickers...  8-)
you should update your bike with a compression release for easier starting...  :-)

get well soon and back on track ... :wink:
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on May 07, 2013, 09:18:33 PM
that's one of the worst kicker wounds I've seen in a long time....I won't even kick my 250 over in anything but boots.
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: motopunk on May 07, 2013, 09:31:43 PM
that's one of the worst kicker wounds I've seen in a long time....I won't even kick my 250 over in anything but boots.

i agree... i know a guy who broke his middle foot by kicking a 250 with sneakers on...

i say always: safety first... :-D
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Polar-Bus on May 08, 2013, 04:24:32 AM
A KX500 RH footpeg can and will peel open your calf like a soft bananna if improper "PPE" is not worn...   (see pics above)


FYI : "PPE"  is the industry standard description for "personal protective equipment"
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: sandblaster on May 08, 2013, 04:52:45 AM
Whoooaaaahhhh!!!!!
I guess I better stop starting mine with tennis shoes on  :-(
I have ruined a couple of pairs putting the lever through the bottom but never did anything like that....
I hope you have a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: SHLEPY on May 08, 2013, 05:54:30 AM
That is just gnarly ive tore my big toe up starting the 250f up in flip flops half drunk I don't think ill ever do any bike again with out boots that just made sick sorry to see that happen to you. :-(
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Sideplater on May 08, 2013, 06:32:59 PM
Thanks Guy's, I'm healing Ok , Doc said yesterday it was looking pretty clean for such a deep wound.  Anti-Biotics ( Flucloxacillin 500mg ) and anti inflamm tabs ( Ibuprofen 200mg ) prescribed and taken.

Been walking today without the sticks and should be good for a ride on my 'Busa maybe this weekend coming ?

Crossing my fingers
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: riproost on May 08, 2013, 07:04:03 PM
Get well and get ridin'!
Gotta ask was this from the foot peg or maybe the tip of the kickstarter?
OUCH
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Brute on May 08, 2013, 08:10:58 PM
Worst one I have seen by far! High up too. Speedy recovery to ya!
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: powerfreak88 on May 09, 2013, 02:03:20 PM
After blowing a hole straight through the bottom of my brand new work boots i now wear mx boots every time i start the 5 honey. My god man you really did a number on yourself. Man that is friggin deep! Glad to hear your healing ok
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: conbread on May 09, 2013, 02:56:47 PM
omg, i wish i hadnt seen that...  :-o  buddy i sure hope you get well soon, and always wear them boots...
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Sideplater on May 09, 2013, 07:37:32 PM
One week later and had the Doc check it out today. Looks like it may be another few days till the stitches come out due to the extent of the wound, evidently it's still healing Ok though and I've been on my feet for a while now without the sticks still which probably does'nt help but, all good so far.

Will post a pic through when the stitches have gone , not scared of a scar but a tattoo of a KX5 doing a hillclimb up it was something that crossed my mind ....

Thanks Guys



Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: El Snorro on May 09, 2013, 09:14:30 PM
omg

never kick a 500 2stroke without boots?? :P

Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: motopunk on May 09, 2013, 09:18:28 PM
nice idea with a tattoo like that . post pics if you realize it anytime ..  :-)
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: don46 on May 10, 2013, 02:59:29 AM
I have had some nasty bruises, nothing like that though. I would second the option on the compression release, kicks over much easier, of course then you may be tempted to start it with your tennis shoes. The old european bikes that kicked on the left beat me many times but never broke skin, I hate left kickers.
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: alward25 on May 10, 2013, 04:17:28 AM
I have had some nasty bruises, nothing like that though. I would second the option on the compression release, kicks over much easier, of course then you may be tempted to start it with your tennis shoes. The old european bikes that kicked on the left beat me many times but never broke skin, I hate left kickers.
+2 on the left kicker.  It is just not natural :-o  Hope you have a quick recovery!
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Motorrad on May 10, 2013, 04:24:39 AM
I have had some nasty bruises, nothing like that though. I would second the option on the compression release, kicks over much easier, of course then you may be tempted to start it with your tennis shoes. The old european bikes that kicked on the left beat me many times but never broke skin, I hate left kickers.
+2 on the left kicker.  It is just not natural :-o  Hope you have a quick recovery!


Im of the opposite oppinion.

EVERYTHING should be a left kick      the right kick stuff drives me nuts.
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: alward25 on May 10, 2013, 05:24:24 AM
I have had some nasty bruises, nothing like that though. I would second the option on the compression release, kicks over much easier, of course then you may be tempted to start it with your tennis shoes. The old european bikes that kicked on the left beat me many times but never broke skin, I hate left kickers.
+2 on the left kicker.  It is just not natural :-o  Hope you have a quick recovery!


Im of the opposite oppinion.

EVERYTHING should be a left kick      the right kick stuff drives me nuts.

Well, We all know you are nuts..... :-o
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: wierdo on May 10, 2013, 02:32:15 PM
bloody good reason to have a electric starter,my right knee is F....D (reconstructed), i've always dreaded the "kick back" or running my shin down the foot peg, its lurking in the back of the old head when ever i have to kick anything over.
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: ELRUKO on May 10, 2013, 05:11:23 PM
The 81 YZ 465 ripped a new pair of tennis shoes... The 83 CR 480 with the left kicker was sweet!  Kick in sandals...  Well, that was a long time ago.  Had a K5 since 93.  But now, I have a compression release!!!  Never thought I would need it... times change.  NO electric starters in my future at 57, though is would seem tempting.
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Motorrad on May 10, 2013, 05:17:15 PM
next project.    turn the K5 into a left hand kick.   how it should have been..
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: 81cr450 on May 11, 2013, 05:09:14 AM
Not to knock the decompresor but I just got bit by one.

Kicked it once , no fire.

Kicked it the second time, lit just enough to pop the decomp but not enough that I heard the "fire"

Kicked the 3rd time , shredded my shin on the footpeg because I thought it'd be a nice easy kick & it wasnt

I imagine if you get used to them they work all right but I think consistency is better, least you know what to expect anyway.

Hope your leg heals up quick , that is one nasty looking wound. Thanks for posting that up too, I'm bad for riding in tenny's a good reminder of why not to do it is a good thing
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Motorrad on May 11, 2013, 05:46:02 AM
Not to knock the decompresor but I just got bit by one.

Kicked it once , no fire.

Kicked it the second time, lit just enough to pop the decomp but not enough that I heard the "fire"

Kicked the 3rd time , shredded my shin on the footpeg because I thought it'd be a nice easy kick & it wasnt

I imagine if you get used to them they work all right but I think consistency is better, least you know what to expect anyway.

Hope your leg heals up quick , that is one nasty looking wound. Thanks for posting that up too, I'm bad for riding in tenny's a good reminder of why not to do it is a good thing

gotta reset them EVERY time.                 and if your not going past TDC before you kick... . :|
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: motopunk on May 11, 2013, 05:38:13 PM
next project.    turn the K5 into a left hand kick.   how it should have been..

maico 2012/2013.. still as 250 , 320 and 500.. 8-)
... but i personally dont like lefthand kickers. if you go down or engine dies in a difficult section, you must kick with left foot, if you dont want to leave the seat for kicking. and this eats the time for a possible better finish in a race...  :|

http://maico-bikeworld.de/catalog/index.php?cPath=31

Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: SHLEPY on May 11, 2013, 05:57:34 PM
that is a sick bike I remember when they came out there was also a 700 2t I could never get used to the lefty kick even though my dad had bsa tri nort al the old time desert sleds.
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: motopunk on May 12, 2013, 04:52:27 PM
the 700cc is an zabel-sidecar-engine. in first it came out as super moto bike a few years ago . as maico 620 (618cc) and as maico 700 (685cc). :-)

since the maisch brothers are out of business in the late ´80s were the maico engines produced by german sidecar tuner friedhelm zabel with his own labels for sidecars and with maico-labels for the new maico manufacturers that came over the time .  8-)

maico =  mai(sch) + co .

as far as i know all maicos with 400cc and bigger engines had decomp-release in stock  8-)
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: sandblaster on May 12, 2013, 05:00:19 PM
685 Maico 2T 82 HP?
Oh yeah I want one  :lol:

Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: motopunk on May 12, 2013, 05:19:16 PM
685 Maico 2T 82 HP?
Oh yeah I want one  :lol:



...you crazy dune-racer...  :lol: ... i think in the right hands this bike is the ultimate weapon in the dunes...  8-)
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: sandblaster on May 12, 2013, 05:27:39 PM
Sorry to hijack this thread...
I'm done racing....... but throwing lots of sand into the air is still really fun.
I'm sure that bike could make me smiles.
But then so would something built by  ˭M˭otorrad  :-D
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: motopunk on May 12, 2013, 06:06:00 PM
Sorry to hijack this thread...
I'm done racing....... but throwing lots of sand into the air is still really fun.
I'm sure that bike could make me smiles.
But then so would something built by  ˭M˭otorrad  :-D

i think so...  :-D... time to give it an own thread??
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Sideplater on May 16, 2013, 06:21:05 PM
Been two weeks today that I ripped open my kick-start leg. Thanks for all the messages Guys, had the stitches removed yesterday thanks to two pretty Nurses and the Doctor from Scotland .

I'm on my feet and all good.

Posting some pic's of the resultant damage ( Scar pics ) when I get the dressing off , maybe a couple of days or so.. watch this space :-)






Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: motopunk on May 16, 2013, 07:57:59 PM
Been two weeks today that I ripped open my kick-start leg. Thanks for all the messages Guys, had the stitches removed yesterday thanks to two pretty Nurses and the Doctor from Scotland .

I'm on my feet and all good.

Posting some pic's of the resultant damage ( Scar pics ) when I get the dressing off , maybe a couple of days or so.. watch this space :-)








that sounds, like youre will be back on bike in a few days...  :-D 
 
post a pic of the pretty nurses...  :lol:
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: sandblaster on May 17, 2013, 02:56:50 AM
Glad your doing better.
Because of your experience I now keep some boots at the shop for starting bikes  :-)
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Sideplater on May 20, 2013, 06:33:04 PM
Update time and, been 18 days today since I ripped my right leg ....

Healing up good and thanks to the guys at the Emergency Dept at the Hospital, again. Keeping it clean and looking ahead to another ride on the KX soon ....

P.s Ignore the little finger that looks like it's a bit out of shape, another story :-)

Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: sandblaster on May 21, 2013, 02:32:03 AM
Lookin good and no infection......
Now you have to tell us about the finger  :-)
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on May 21, 2013, 07:10:10 AM
that looks much better...that was border-line something you'd see in a horror movie....
that finger though...will haunt my dreams for awhile :cry:
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Sideplater on May 21, 2013, 07:35:46 PM
The finger ?

Relaxing on a fold-up sun chair with my arms hanging down, turned out some kid was chasing a ball and crashed into my chair . The chair collapsed and my little digit got squashed in the process as well as scissored in two as it went down with me in it. Best the surgeons could do was sew it back on even though it was a bit of mush.

My recent leg wound hurt a little, the finger job was painful with a big P.

All good now, no complaining  :-)
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: sandblaster on May 22, 2013, 02:16:36 AM
Oh man... Lawn chair?
Your gonna have to work on that story a bit...
How about this.... you were at the X Games huckin the gaps when.....            Now you fill in the blank...
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Sideplater on May 24, 2013, 06:00:24 PM
True story and it was a Deck chair, I think I was dozing in the sun when the kid hit me at speed and it all went downhill from there. Looks like the folding bits of the chair bit my finger off as it collapsed, or tried to as I hit the deck, so to speak.

Ouch
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: wierdo on May 25, 2013, 11:45:21 AM
I almost did the same thing myself once, but it was my own fat arse and an old fold up chair that just collapsed. ( just nicked the end of my finger as well) morale of the story- drunk fat arses and fold up chairs are not compatable. actually, thinking about it i haven't seen a fold up for a few years now.
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Sideplater on May 28, 2014, 06:48:05 PM
Thought I'd clock in and been a year now since the kickstart ripped my leg open. healing process went well and good as new apart from a nice looking scar .

( What happened to the gory pics that I posted of my leg ?)

Been out on the '04 recently but only for a brief ride as the weather was turning bad to worse so, back on the trailer looking for a ride maybe this weekend, be nice to see some sun   8-)



 
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: wierdo on June 02, 2014, 11:04:49 AM
glad to hear there was no permenent damage. i had to replace my kicker 2 weeks ago the old one over rotated and my foot slipped off at full kick. it felt like it ripped the instep of my boot out. luckily it didnt, but left an instant black bruise from my instep up to my ankle joint. Sometimes its almost better to see a bit of blood just to confirm what you have just done to yourself. I had to pull my boot off have a look, hop around abit, put the boot back on, rotate the kicker back into position and then kick the bloody bike over again. :cry: 
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Sideplater on June 02, 2014, 06:40:40 PM
I know the feeling and you were lucky with only a bruise. That same night, when I had my lady pick me up from the hospital after the surgery I must have been a little delirious from the drugs, went out to the shed on my sticks to check the blood all over the the floor and promptly passed out. Lying on the floor, next to my perfectly innocent KX5 with my leg bleeding through the bandage she rung the hospital and they said it was due to low blood pressure due to blood loss.

First time I've passed out that way and my good lady managed to wake me and help me into bed. She's a good girl , for a math teacher that is :-)
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: wierdo on June 05, 2014, 07:04:07 PM
Actually now that i think about it maybe a pool of blood being emptied out of my boot would probably have made me pass out as well. Shock is a sneaky little so and so, i work in a hospital and see it happen to people all the time. I've had flash back shock when I've seen some one else with a similar injury to what I've experienced ( i've had quite a lot of injuries ). Its probably what happened to you "Flash back Shock"...
Title: Re: KX500 Kickstart - damage control
Post by: Sideplater on July 05, 2015, 06:20:32 PM
Just don't wear Sandshoes when starting a 500 up.

Found this reply I posted from when I had a malfunction a couple of years ago. Pic's not available sorry. Ripped my leg open when I started my '04 in the shed wearing my Nikes. It kicked back.




''I know the feeling and you were lucky with only a bruise. That same night, when I had my lady pick me up from the hospital after the surgery I must have been a little delirious from the drugs, went out to the shed on my sticks to check the blood all over the the floor and promptly passed out. Lying on the floor, next to my innocent KX5, with my leg bleeding through the bandage she rung the hospital and they said it was due to low blood pressure due to blood loss.

21 stitches, still got the scar.

First time I've passed out that way and my good lady managed to wake me and help me into bed. She's a good girl .

 

 

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