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Maintenance & Technical => KDX (KX step child) => Topic started by: E ticket rider on February 15, 2013, 02:13:08 PM

Title: KDX220
Post by: E ticket rider on February 15, 2013, 02:13:08 PM
I might pick up a '01 kdx 220 on Monday. Its a rider, doesn't need rebuilt, and the price is right!
 What might be some target areas to check out?

any adv is appreciated

Thanks,
EZ
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: sandblaster on February 15, 2013, 03:30:09 PM
Besides all the normal things to look for, the two things I have found is the threaded area of the gas cap tend to crack and leak.
Take the cap off and carefully inspect for cracks as they can be really hard to spot.
The other problem is bent forks.
It's not always obvious.
I look for some small bumps on the front of the fork tubes.
Just inspect the chrome very carefully and look for ANYTHING that seems abnormal.
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: E ticket rider on February 15, 2013, 04:10:59 PM
Cool, Im looking forward to this one!  8-)
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: SS109 on February 16, 2013, 01:32:05 PM
I can't stress this enough, find out if it has the a stock or aftermarket forged piston. The factory cast pistons will come apart without warning. It doesn't matter if it has one hour or 50 hours on it. They let go with no other reason other than a poor design that never was corrected even in the replacement cast pistons. The only readily available safe option is a Wiseco forged piston.
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: E ticket rider on February 16, 2013, 02:07:04 PM
Ill ask if he has been inside the motor, but hes not the orig owner.
I'm going up to ride it on Monday, Ill post some pics when I get home.
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: SS109 on February 16, 2013, 04:16:19 PM
Just plan on replacing the piston if he doesn't know if you end up buying it. Pull the top end to see what you have in there before running the engine any more. If it already has a Wiseco when you get it apart, well, at least you have the peace of mind it won't grenade on you and you know what condition the top end is in. The price of a few gaskets and a little bit of your time is better than a grenaded piston that takes out the top and bottom ends!
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on February 16, 2013, 11:31:43 PM
The only readily available safe option is a Wiseco forged piston.


Not so...Wossner has 3 sizes readily available for the 220...and they're a far superior product than Wiseco. :wink:

http://www.wossnerpistons.com/products/?car-id=9972&car-name=2001-kawasaki-kdx-220
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: SS109 on February 17, 2013, 05:36:07 PM
The only readily available safe option is a Wiseco forged piston.


Not so...Wossner has 3 sizes readily available for the 220...and they're a far superior product than Wiseco. :wink:

http://www.wossnerpistons.com/products/?car-id=9972&car-name=2001-kawasaki-kdx-220

Is that a forged or cast piston? If cast, I wouldn't run it in a 220 for nothing! If forged, then that will work. However, I have never had a problem running a Wiseco in anything from dirt bikes to BB Mopar drag cars.
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on February 17, 2013, 10:44:51 PM
The only readily available safe option is a Wiseco forged piston.


Not so...Wossner has 3 sizes readily available for the 220...and they're a far superior product than Wiseco. :wink:

http://www.wossnerpistons.com/products/?car-id=9972&car-name=2001-kawasaki-kdx-220

Is that a forged or cast piston? If cast, I wouldn't run it in a 220 for nothing! If forged, then that will work. However, I have never had a problem running a Wiseco in anything from dirt bikes to BB Mopar drag cars.

All you had to do,was open the link I posted....and the answer to your question,will be staring right back at you,in black and white.

Here's another/different link from the previous one I posted....run your cursor over the pic and it will turn.
http://www.wossnerpistons.com/images/store/wossner-usa-inc/WOS-8228D200.swf
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: SS109 on February 18, 2013, 01:46:38 PM
No need to get snarky. I did open the link. There was nothing stating whether it was a forged or cast and, no, I didn't look at the pics. Pics a lot of times are just stock pics and not of the actual application part.
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on February 18, 2013, 08:24:25 PM
The only readily available safe option is a Wiseco forged piston.


Not so...Wossner has 3 sizes readily available for the 220...and they're a far superior product than Wiseco. :wink:

http://www.wossnerpistons.com/products/?car-id=9972&car-name=2001-kawasaki-kdx-220

I'm not tryin to bust your balls by any means,but I also don't want to be looked at as a liar either :-D...but on my computer,when I open that link,the very 1st thing I see staring me in the face are the words "Manufactuer Of Forged Pistons"...dead center at the top...to the left side is the Wossner logo.
Is it just me,or is my computer just that more advanced over SS109s...can anyone else see the headline that states "Manufactuer Of Forged Pistons" at the top of the page when you open this link?

When I get outa work I'll post up a pic of what my computer shows when I open it....maybe your computer is'nt for some reason.
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: sandblaster on February 19, 2013, 02:43:43 AM
I opened the link and this is what my computer shows:

(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=373)
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on February 19, 2013, 04:28:19 AM
Thank you sandblaster!....thought I was losing my mind.... and sanity. :-D
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: ID KX500 on February 19, 2013, 09:59:19 AM
No need to get snarky. I did open the link. There was nothing stating whether it was a forged or cast and, no, I didn't look at the pics. Pics a lot of times are just stock pics and not of the actual application part.
The only readily available safe option is a Wiseco forged piston.


Not so...Wossner has 3 sizes readily available for the 220...and they're a far superior product than Wiseco. :wink:

http://www.wossnerpistons.com/products/?car-id=9972&car-name=2001-kawasaki-kdx-220

I'm not tryin to bust your balls by any means,but I also don't want to be looked at as a liar either :-D...but on my computer,when I open that link,the very 1st thing I see staring me in the face are the words "Manufactuer Of Forged Pistons"...dead center at the top...to the left side is the Wossner logo.
Is it just me,or is my computer just that more advanced over SS109s...can anyone else see the headline that states "Manufactuer Of Forged Pistons" at the top of the page when you open this link?

When I get outa work I'll post up a pic of what my computer shows when I open it....maybe your computer is'nt for some reason.

Thank you both for the information, I have a couple of KDX200s now so I was interested in the piston facts. Looks like the pricing is real close to the same, and with both being forged,,, its 6s for me.
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: E ticket rider on February 19, 2013, 10:16:44 AM
Well it might not matter for me, I cant get the D-bag to call me back!  When I call him he keeps putting off showing the bike. so Im going to start shopping again. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: sandblaster on February 19, 2013, 10:19:36 AM
I wouldn't use this unless I had really good reason but here is a site for reporting people on C/L and other online selling sites:

http://flakelist.org/ (http://flakelist.org/)
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: E ticket rider on February 19, 2013, 10:47:58 AM
Ill give him a few days, Hes supposed to be moving out of state. I know that can be hectic. I found an '85 CR250 i might go look at.
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: SS109 on February 20, 2013, 04:38:59 PM
Yeah, I see that now. However, I wasn't looking at the top of the web page. I was looking at the actual product descriptions. A simple "yes" to my question would have sufficed instead of all the BS. :roll:

The only readily available safe option is a Wiseco forged piston.


Not so...Wossner has 3 sizes readily available for the 220...and they're a far superior product than Wiseco. :wink:

http://www.wossnerpistons.com/products/?car-id=9972&car-name=2001-kawasaki-kdx-220

I'm not tryin to bust your balls by any means,but I also don't want to be looked at as a liar either :-D...but on my computer,when I open that link,the very 1st thing I see staring me in the face are the words "Manufactuer Of Forged Pistons"...dead center at the top...to the left side is the Wossner logo.
Is it just me,or is my computer just that more advanced over SS109s...can anyone else see the headline that states "Manufactuer Of Forged Pistons" at the top of the page when you open this link?

When I get outa work I'll post up a pic of what my computer shows when I open it....maybe your computer is'nt for some reason.
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: E ticket rider on February 20, 2013, 05:28:00 PM
UPDATE!
So I get ahold of dude, and hes still in.... out of state. So I have a 'date' with him, or his wife, whatever...on sat, the 23rd?  So, Ima buy this piece of s**t outta spite!! LOL! Ill get him down to a price, and then walk away. then buy it for a lot less.

Any way, I can fix what don't work, lights work, bike runs, suspension bounces, after that...it just shop stuff....right? another project? no problem!!

Something for the boys to work on!!
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on February 20, 2013, 08:27:21 PM
Yeah, I see that now. However, I wasn't looking at the top of the web page. I was looking at the actual product descriptions. A simple "yes" to my question would have sufficed instead of all the BS. :roll:

The only readily available safe option is a Wiseco forged piston.


Not so...Wossner has 3 sizes readily available for the 220...and they're a far superior product than Wiseco. :wink:

http://www.wossnerpistons.com/products/?car-id=9972&car-name=2001-kawasaki-kdx-220

I'm not tryin to bust your balls by any means,but I also don't want to be looked at as a liar either :-D...but on my computer,when I open that link,the very 1st thing I see staring me in the face are the words "Manufactuer Of Forged Pistons"...dead center at the top...to the left side is the Wossner logo.
Is it just me,or is my computer just that more advanced over SS109s...can anyone else see the headline that states "Manufactuer Of Forged Pistons" at the top of the page when you open this link?

When I get outa work I'll post up a pic of what my computer shows when I open it....maybe your computer is'nt for some reason.

eh,it's all good....you'll live :-D
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: SS109 on February 21, 2013, 06:36:41 AM
Yeah, I see that now. However, I wasn't looking at the top of the web page. I was looking at the actual product descriptions. A simple "yes" to my question would have sufficed instead of all the BS. :roll:

The only readily available safe option is a Wiseco forged piston.


Not so...Wossner has 3 sizes readily available for the 220...and they're a far superior product than Wiseco. :wink:

http://www.wossnerpistons.com/products/?car-id=9972&car-name=2001-kawasaki-kdx-220

I'm not tryin to bust your balls by any means,but I also don't want to be looked at as a liar either :-D...but on my computer,when I open that link,the very 1st thing I see staring me in the face are the words "Manufactuer Of Forged Pistons"...dead center at the top...to the left side is the Wossner logo.
Is it just me,or is my computer just that more advanced over SS109s...can anyone else see the headline that states "Manufactuer Of Forged Pistons" at the top of the page when you open this link?

When I get outa work I'll post up a pic of what my computer shows when I open it....maybe your computer is'nt for some reason.

eh,it's all good....you'll live :-D

Ahhhh, I don't know. My mangina is hurt and full of sand now! :-D
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on February 21, 2013, 06:44:04 AM
HAHA...that's funny!....just pick up a drunken troller from the bar to flush out the sand and nurse it back to health. ...works for me :evil:
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: SS109 on February 21, 2013, 01:01:16 PM
Thank you! :-D Ya gotta have a sense of humor or thing just get too uptight! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: USMC 500 on February 21, 2013, 02:44:04 PM
buy it.......put a 500 in it........KDX500 enduro bike is something everyone should have.......service honda makes one but they want like $13,000
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: Motorrad on February 21, 2013, 02:49:58 PM
buy it.......put a 500 in it........KDX500 enduro bike is something everyone should have.......service honda makes one but they want like $13,000

I can build ya a K5 motor that would run like a Tame KDX..   would be like a 500CC KDX.    good tame and TORQUE
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: USMC 500 on February 21, 2013, 02:55:43 PM
buy it.......put a 500 in it........KDX500 enduro bike is something everyone should have.......service honda makes one but they want like $13,000

I can build ya a K5 motor that would run like a Tame KDX..   would be like a 500CC KDX.    good tame and TORQUE

Tame to you is 85 hp and below......
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: Motorrad on February 21, 2013, 02:56:22 PM
buy it.......put a 500 in it........KDX500 enduro bike is something everyone should have.......service honda makes one but they want like $13,000

I can build ya a K5 motor that would run like a Tame KDX..   would be like a 500CC KDX.    good tame and TORQUE

Tame to you is 85 hp and below......

well.....
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: USMC 500 on February 21, 2013, 03:00:27 PM
Motorrad's idea of a "TAME" enduro bike......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj4sGXGjh3s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj4sGXGjh3s)
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: E ticket rider on February 21, 2013, 04:15:58 PM
I do have a 500......... :-o
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: Friar-Tuck on February 22, 2013, 05:12:34 AM
Like This one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y91Jms6MyCY   :-D
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: E ticket rider on February 23, 2013, 03:10:01 AM
Like This one?

 Not yet! :-D
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: E ticket rider on February 23, 2013, 12:43:25 PM
I picked it up today, :-D. What a fun bike! ill post some pics tomarow.
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: Friar-Tuck on February 23, 2013, 04:43:25 PM
Congrats!
  Here's a guy that knows a thing or two about how to set up a KDX. 
http://www.frpoffroad.com/aboutus.htm

Tuck\o/
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: E ticket rider on February 24, 2013, 12:50:22 AM
Thanks Tuck!
It has an FMF Gnar pipe, not sure whitch one. Turbine core II sparky. Ill get some pics today,
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: E ticket rider on February 24, 2013, 11:11:05 AM
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p303/big-daddy_photo/000_0239_zpsbac36082.jpg)(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p303/big-daddy_photo/000_0238_zpsd6df83c7.jpg)
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: Foxx4Beaver on February 24, 2013, 11:25:06 AM
not bad....I'd try to plate it so I could use it for local transportation and off-roading if I had it.
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: E ticket rider on February 24, 2013, 01:10:02 PM
I'm going to keep it all dirt, it too much BS in New Mexico to get street legal! Its easier to take them to Co and register them in your friends name then do the conversion, and plate it, then bring it back to NM.........yeah, too much BS. I'm going through that with the XR650R. this one is for my wife and boys to learn to ride.
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: SS109 on February 24, 2013, 02:22:20 PM
Good starter bike. Just keep up on the basic maintenance and they will live through the torture of newb riders. That's why I love KDX's, tough, reliable bikes!
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: E ticket rider on March 02, 2013, 05:37:38 AM
not bad....I'd try to plate it so I could use it for local transportation and off-roading if I had it.


So after a little research, I could plate the KDX, would just take a frame w/bos. Of course if I go that route, Ill have to put the K5 motor in it! :-D
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: USMC 500 on March 02, 2013, 05:52:30 AM
not bad....I'd try to plate it so I could use it for local transportation and off-roading if I had it.


So after a little research, I could plate the KDX, would just take a frame w/bos. Of course if I go that route, Ill have to put the K5 motor in it! :-D

This whole "street legal" kx500 thing is so stupid and rediculous!!.......I'm just being a hater, don't mind me.  A street legal KDX500 would be something interesting.
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: E ticket rider on March 02, 2013, 06:05:57 AM
I was kinda hoping this thread would go dead so you would "BUMP"it! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: USMC 500 on March 02, 2013, 06:14:51 AM
I was kinda hoping this thread would go dead so you would "BUMP"it! :mrgreen:

Oh d**n IT!!  This thread is almost 15 minutes old!!

Ask and you shall recieve :-D

(http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo344/1giffin/Wood%20Shead/Bump2.jpg)
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: E ticket rider on March 08, 2013, 05:45:53 PM
SO!!!! this pos was last registered in 02, in New Mexico. hasn't been reg since. MVD......DMV any where else, is giving me a s**t ton of crap about registration.
I found that if I go to a Title outfit, it ain't s**t!  F*** this government!!!!!!  oh don't get me started!!!
Why cant this s**t be easy?
I'm trying to comply!!
Title: Re: KDX220
Post by: sandblaster on March 09, 2013, 04:04:44 AM
Sometimes bureaucratic stupidity makes us do bad things .....  :x