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General => In General... => Topic started by: 81cr450 on December 19, 2012, 01:34:02 PM
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Contact your elected officials tell them how you feel
Sir,
Please stand behind our second amendment right's. The issue is not a gun problem but a safe learning environment for our children & proper health care for the mentally ill. Please help to focus on what the true problem is & not the scape goat.
Thank You, Scott
I wont judge you if your view varies from mine but protecting my family & the right's that our fore fathers stood & died for means enough to me to post this , even though it may be viewed as inappropriate. It only takes a moment to be heard
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Ill second that!
and I got your back!
Without the 2nd amendment, the 1st and the 4th will fall.
We should all know our constitution. it should be tought in school.
Thank You
Chris
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your exactly right chris but it wont get taught in the schools until we take them back from the "state"
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Contact your elected officials tell them how you feel
Sir,
Please stand behind our second amendment right's. The issue is not a gun problem but a safe learning environment for our children & proper health care for the mentally ill. Please help to focus on what the true problem is & not the scape goat.
Thank You, Scott
I wont judge you if your view varies from mine but protecting my family & the right's that our fore fathers stood & died for means enough to me to post this , even though it may be viewed as inappropriate. It only takes a moment to be heard
Firstly im from Ireland(E.U) and this has been big news over here.
Honestly I think your delusional, looking in from the outside
Imo, you will always have people with mental problems, regardless of the money spent on it. And the ease at which these ppl can access these weapons is crazy. What do ppl need access to assualt weapons for, only the army should have these weapons right?
I hear alot about your argument of protecting your family and how your forefathers fought for this right but realistically what are you protecting your family from? Would your forefathers want to see what is happening now?
I bet any money, their are ppl just like Adam Lanza who are looking at him and thinking of the blaze of glory he went out in and are gonna do the same, as they can get these weapons way too easily, instead of them just hanging themselves in their garage!
Just my 2cent but your gun policy is wrong and needs to change. I agree more needs to be done on mental health care but ppl are always gonna fall through that net
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Contact your elected officials tell them how you feel
Sir,
Please stand behind our second amendment right's. The issue is not a gun problem but a safe learning environment for our children & proper health care for the mentally ill. Please help to focus on what the true problem is & not the scape goat.
Thank You, Scott
I wont judge you if your view varies from mine but protecting my family & the right's that our fore fathers stood & died for means enough to me to post this , even though it may be viewed as inappropriate. It only takes a moment to be heard
Firstly im from Ireland(E.U) and this has been big news over here.
Honestly I think your delusional, looking in from the outside
Imo, you will always have people with mental problems, regardless of the money spent on it. And the ease at which these ppl can access these weapons is crazy. What do ppl need access to assualt weapons for, only the army should have these weapons right?
I hear alot about your argument of protecting your family and how your forefathers fought for this right but realistically what are you protecting your family from? Would your forefathers want to see what is happening now?
I bet any money, their are ppl just like Adam Lanza who are looking at him and thinking of the blaze of glory he went out in and are gonna do the same, as they can get these weapons way too easily, instead of them just hanging themselves in their garage!
Just my 2cent but your gun policy is wrong and needs to change. I agree more needs to be done on mental health care but ppl are always gonna fall through that net
Andy, no offense but you don't get it.
theres an old saying , "when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have them" and I believe it.
I'm afraid that this topic can/will get out of hand quickly and maybe it should be tabled.
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I agree with you don46.....there's a reason why it says "No Religion/Politics" next to the In General topic.
That's why I've kept quiet on this thread....no offense to 81cr450,because I do see his point ,but I'd hate to see a war over opinions on here.
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I want to say what I think but I'm afraid I'll cause the thread to be nuked. :-D :-D
With all due respect Andydunne, Ireland has it's share of innocents being killed,,,Europe doesn't have the answers for America in this regard,,,or we'd still be singing hail to the queen too.
Post was updated in a clearer state of mind. Corona while working on the bikes subsided by a good meal.
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I wont judge you if your view varies from mine but protecting my family & the right's that our fore fathers stood & died for means enough to me to post this , even though it may be viewed as inappropriate. It only takes a moment to be heard.
Being American is different than living elsewhere in the world as citizens its our responsibility to keep "The Man" in check. That wont happen if you let them take the right to bear arms. Dictatorships are formed in that fashion
"No Religion/Politics" I'm in the wrong on that one feel free to delete it Dave
& I also agree with "I'd hate to see a war over opinions on here."
I said what I felt needed to be said & I believe the other gun toting Americans on here have heard. Freedom require's action from the individuals who wish to be free, even a simple action like writing your senators & congressmen
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"Those that seek safety and security over freedom deserve neither!"
"The militia shall be armed not unlike the professional standing Army so as not to be outmatched by them!"
When the founding fathers of this country set up the "Bill of Rights" more than half voted or agreed to it at the Virginia Convention. For the ones that didn't, they were afraid that the people over time may come to believe that these were the only rights they had and that government would decide what other rights were to be given.
Peter C. Egger
Aviation Electronics Technician Chief Petty Officer, Aviation Warfare Specialist, United States Navy, Retired
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Yes we are getting into the "no politics/no religion". With the on going events..... I think we need a small exemption. You have 3 days to speak your mind.
Be nice, only your opinion.
I will delete this on the 23rd.
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Yes we are getting into the "no politics/no religion". With the on going events..... I think we need a small exemption. You have 3 days to speak your mind.
Be nice, only your opinion.
I will delete this on the 23rd.
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& great point Pete
"The militia shall be armed not unlike the professional standing Army so as not to be outmatched by them!"
"government would decide what other rights were to be given" :-(
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what is the crime rate in switzerland??? almost nill! read up on their gun laws !! they have done a better job at what our forefathers wrote into our constitution.
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My FJ site has a gun thread for just this. Of course it's not catering to the younger crowd like this one does.
There are many different things to think about here, here's a few.
1 gun control, guns kill, NO THEY DON"T people with no resect for others kill. Butt holes just fist fight.
2 mental health, we use to take weirdo's out of society, but that's not PC any more.
3 good parenting, most of these kids know are from the (it's owed to me generation) and the parents are not diciplining their kids. oh it's ok, don't do it again. Kids today don't know or realize that dads belt has two purposes, maybe dad don't either.
4 social media, They think their hero's, and get all kinds of publicity over what they do. (that's our fault as a society).
5 being a coward, Hide behind guns and bullet proof gear and think your the man your not. your a spinless piece of crap (trying to be pc) Walk into a cop shop or a barracks and see how far you make it. lol
This may come off cold, but I don't think the mother should be considered a hero, if she was a good gun owner this wouldn't have been. She had a kid she was worried about, and tought him how to shoot and not lock her guns real smart.
I think tar & feather and stonings should be brought back, and their 15 min of fame is hog tied to a vehicle and dragged thru the town till nothings left of them, let the victims family drive the vehicle.
I am not a gun enthuisist, but I don't think they should be baned. That said you should go through a back ground check before you by from anyone.
And if you didn't have a gun and someone breaks into your home, your gonna call someone with a gun to save you. HOPE THEY GET THERE IN TIME.
Bob W
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what is the crime rate in switzerland??? almost nill! read up on their gun laws !! they have done a better job at what our forefathers wrote into our constitution.
The Military of Switzerland perform the roles of Switzerland's militia and regular army. Under the country's militia system, professional soldiers constitute about 5 percent of military personnel; the rest are male citizen conscripts 19 to 34 (in some cases up to 50) years old. Because of a long history of neutrality, the army does not take part in armed conflicts in other countries, but takes part in peacekeeping missions around the world.
The structure of the Swiss militia system stipulates that the soldiers keep their own personal equipment, including all personally assigned weapons, at home (until 2007 this also included ammunition[3]). Compulsory military service concerns all male Swiss citizens, with women serving voluntarily. Males usually receive initial orders at the age of 18 for military conscription eligibility screening. About two-thirds of young Swiss men are found suitable for service, while alternative service exists for those found unsuitable.[4] Annually, approximately 20,000 persons are trained in basic training for a duration from 18 to 21 weeks (increased from 15 weeks, in 2003).
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sound like a perfect idea to me pegger. i know i would have benefitted greatly from some military training at 18 yrs of age! even now wouldnt hurt :roll: i am thinking it is what our country needs. get alot of problems off of the street and give them some training.
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Ill start by saying I didnt read any of the posts....
I stay out of threads like this on purpose. (mostly to the request of my wife) as I tend to always be the one that slips off the handle, and gets baned from sites..
Ill simply say..
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(http://www.citizens4freedom.com/Portals/TeaParty/articles/experts-agree-on-gun-control.jpg)
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i am from the u.k so i will not try and tell the u.s what to do.
however we had/have a problem over here with knives and kid/teens stabbing 1 another. they brought in new laws so a person under the age of 21 could not buy an item with a blade (even scissors) .
in the kitchen draw of almost every house hold you will find a carving knife with a blade of around 9 inches and can be accessed by anyone over 3ft tall. this law made no difference what so ever over here the problem is worse now i would say. if some one is set on doing some thing no rule or law will stop them. there are literally 100s of item laying around most houses that could be used as lethal weapons, tools, vehicals, chemicals ect ect.... the problem is the person not the item. i did here a quote on the u.k news from a guy in the u.s 'the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun'
over here we have very little right to protect our family and property never mind the right to bare arms, guns and knives are not allowed for personal protection.
even though alot of criminals are armed :?
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Making things illegal does not get rid of the problem. The problem is the person or persons in question. The U.S. has many laws regarding drugs. But drug addicts will still get there illegal drugs very easily. Making guns of any kind, and 30 shot magazines illegal will not stop a freakin demented killer from killing. As we see in Britain they have banned knives now. Still chasing a problem. I guess they will ban spoons and forks next and probably fire, but the bad guys will still kill.
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Hit the nail right on the head Jonny 500 and Kawboy.
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It's 2am, you here a loud noise, someones broke in, and your daughter scream. You get up and look down at the night stand, there's a gun and a phone, which would you choose.
So you choose to use the phone, who did you call, someone with a gun, hope they get there in time.
This would be a good way to employ a whole bunch of unemployed vets, as school marshalls. This way teacher can teach.
Bob W
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Cops are only there to clean up the mess!
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dont forget, 2 table spoons full of salt is enough to kill. so salt should be banned :roll:
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2 table spoons full of salt is enough to kill
Especially if it's rock salt loaded in a shotgun shell :-D
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Wait a minute......you mean to tell me that if we make guns illegal, then the gun violence problem will go away?! Hell, why did't we think of this sooner!! While we're at it we should make heroin and crystal meth illegal too!!
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You want my guns Obama? I bet you don't have a hair on your ass big enough to come alone and take them.
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It's 2am, you hear a loud noise, someones broke in, and your daughter scream. You get up and look down at the night stand, there's a gun and a phone, which would you choose.
So you choose to use the phone, who did you call, someone with a gun, hope they get there in time.
Bob,
The last line of your post reminds me of an old saying. It goes something like "When seconds count..........the Police are only minutes away."
Gary
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So. Ya think the Clinton gun bans are coming back?
I'm thinking I should go buy a m4 (ar15). Before next month...
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Ill start by saying I didnt read any of the posts....
I stay out of threads like this on purpose. (mostly to the request of my wife) as I tend to always be the one that slips off the handle, and gets baned from sites..
Ill simply say..
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17sbqzq7kivvlpng/original.png)
(http://www.citizens4freedom.com/Portals/TeaParty/articles/experts-agree-on-gun-control.jpg)
Motorrad,
I'd just like to say that I am both surprised and impressed that you posted this. Also in definite agreement.
I'm also a little ashamed that I was surprised. Its mostly because you live in Kalifornia. I didn't think that many people in that state shared your sentiment.
I'm glad there are at least one or two sensible people over there.
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So. Ya think the Clinton gun bans are coming back?
Probably. Or something worse. :oops:
I'm thinking I should go buy a m4 (ar15). Before next month...
Good luck. They are already getting hard to find due to the high demand over the last week, and the prices are high if you do find one.
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I'd just like to say that I am both surprised and impressed that you posted this. Also in definite agreement.
I'm also a little ashamed that I was surprised. Its mostly because you live in Kalifornia. I didn't think that many people in that state shared your sentiment.
I'm glad there are at least one or two sensible people over there.
Like I said... Im normaly the one that gets thrown out of Forums, etc I guess that could have been taken 2 ways
Im not the standard Kalifornian.. There is a reason I want to move out of this hell hole..
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So. Ya think the Clinton gun bans are coming back?
Probably. Or something worse. :oops:
I'm thinking I should go buy a m4 (ar15). Before next month...
Good luck. They are already getting hard to find due to the high demand over the last week, and the prices are high if you do find one.
Yea I know.
They have never "done it" for me. Im a HUGE WW2 collector. (my 1600lb (empty) gunsafe is full).. hence the reason I never picked one up..
But if I "cant have one" I "NEED ONE"
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You can just build your own. Buy an 80% incomplete lower, do the rest of the machining your self. It is easy. You can have all of the parts shipped right to you. Just PM me if you need help.
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Ill start by saying I didnt read any of the posts....
I stay out of threads like this on purpose. (mostly to the request of my wife) as I tend to always be the one that slips off the handle, and gets baned from sites..
Ill simply say..
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17sbqzq7kivvlpng/original.png)
(http://www.citizens4freedom.com/Portals/TeaParty/articles/experts-agree-on-gun-control.jpg)
Thanks for the reminder Motorrad of the list of Killers that caused more kindergarten age kids to die than anyone ever. Many of these admired by proponents to take away our guns.
Mao Tse-tung: Every Communist must grasp the truth; "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." "Problems of War and Strategy" (November 6, 1938), Selected Works, Vol. II, p. 224.
We want to stop whacked shooters. TAKING GOOD PEOPLES GUNS WON'T HELP!!!!! Taking guns is for political control,,,we know it,,,they know it. Of course this round of laws is only to reduce the risk by limiting clip size and semi-auto guns,,,Who needs that??? they say. The next step is what Australia caved into,,,,gun forfeiture.
I watched the news footage as it un-folded in Connecticut,,, the good guys arriving had the same kind of guns if not better than the killer. Laws to limit Semi-auto guns and clip size would not have changed the outcome in Conn (because they are already out there). What the NRA proposed Friday would have changed the outcome,,,an armed guard in the school would/could have changed the number of deaths considerably.
Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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IDkx500.. You know how I am... Hell when you met me... I had 2 pistols on me... and a shotgun on the bike...
went to one of my local guns shops today..
this gun shop normaly has... Oh..
15-20 AR-15 and AK47 Type guns on the wall...
and about another 30 Lower recievers for them (hop up goodies)..
Sold out... place was EMPTY.. except a few revolvers.
owner said guys were showing up with CASH and bidding eachother UP on price. (paying higher than marked prices).....
One way to stimulate an economy... :x
Mexico has just over one-sixth the number of guns (per 100 people) as the US, but MORE total homicides by firearm, and over three times the homicide by firearm per 100,000 people.
In Russia, guns are pretty much illegal for everyone, and very few crimes are committed with guns, yet their homicide rate is four times higher than ours
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IDkx500.. You know how I am... Hell when you met me... I had 2 pistols on me... and a shotgun on the bike...
went to one of my local guns shops today..
this gun shop normaly has... Oh..
15-20 AR-15 and AK47 Type guns on the wall...
and about another 30 Lower recievers for them (hop up goodies)..
Sold out... place was EMPTY.. except a few revolvers.
owner said guys were showing up with CASH and bidding eachother UP on price. (paying higher than marked prices).....
One way to stimulate an economy... :x
Mexico has just over one-sixth the number of guns (per 100 people) as the US, but MORE total homicides by firearm, and over three times the homicide by firearm per 100,000 people.
In Russia, guns are pretty much illegal for everyone, and very few crimes are committed with guns, yet their homicide rate is four times higher than ours
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I do wish there was a simple solution. Evil in the world is always our roadblock.
Unarmed GOOD people is very scary. :-o :-o :-o
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Im a HUGE WW2 collector. (my 1600lb (empty) gunsafe is full).. hence the reason I never picked one up..
But if I "cant have one" I "NEED ONE"
Wow. You must be an OK kinda guy. You like KX5's and WW2 guns too. :-D
We should compare notes sometime on the WW2 stuff. Admittedly, my collection is quite small.
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Wow, late as usual! I'll suffice it to say that I am pro-2A and do not support any restriction or ban... period.
That being said, I am only posting to make it easy for my fellow members to contact their Senators, Congressman, and the President. Use the following link and it does all the hard work for you. http://www.congress.org/congressorg/mail/?alertid=61046526&type=ML (http://www.congress.org/congressorg/mail/?alertid=61046526&type=ML) (BTW, save this link for all other matters, like land closures, youth motorcycles bans, etc., that you would like to contact them over!)