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General => In General... => Topic started by: 81cr450 on November 06, 2012, 02:30:23 PM

Title: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: 81cr450 on November 06, 2012, 02:30:23 PM
Like the title says what would you get & why from the new current offerings.

Myself I'd take about any of the new six speed 300cc bikes. Just cause they're the biggest offered & an extra gear would be REALLY nice. In this order

KTM 300 , they're so refined & parts are available

Gas Gas 300 , Gas Gas has been making "sweet" trials bike for years & they gotta know 2T torque from that experience   

Husaberg 300 = Light , would need to be a 2012 as 2013 has a PLASTIC subframe

& Husky's bike ummm ..... They "were" exceptional in the late 70's early 80's but the only truly great equipment they offed since is a CHAINSAW  :mrgreen:

Correct me if I'm wrong  I tell me what I've missed or you think is the cat's meow
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: Motorrad on November 06, 2012, 02:39:05 PM
A pw50.  If it wasn't freaking red sticker.    REALLY!
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: SHLEPY on November 06, 2012, 02:57:33 PM
Beta 300 saw one up close very nice bike real nice.
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: ID KX500 on November 06, 2012, 03:15:20 PM
http://www.christini.com/bikes/christini-awd-250-300

(http://www.christini.com/wp-content/uploads/awd300header.jpg)

In your neck of the woods I'd go with this.
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: snoopjonnyjon on November 07, 2012, 02:23:54 AM
I'm really interested if the new Ossa actually hits production or not... and if it does, will it work or just be another "Cannondale" disaster.

(http://twostrokemotocross.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/2013Ossa.jpg)

If I were actually in the market, I would buy a new Gasgas. I have an older model, and it is fantastic.
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: gwcrim on November 07, 2012, 02:36:01 AM
KTM is the most mainstream and the most proven.  Good dealer network and racer support too.
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: sandblaster on November 07, 2012, 03:44:08 AM
KTM is the most mainstream and the most proven.  Good dealer network and racer support too.

Agreed!
There is nothing worse then not being able to get support or parts for your ride.
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: jBernard on November 07, 2012, 05:53:17 AM
in the US i'd say KTM, then after that a yz250. ktm's 250 kills the yz though, since the yz is pretty much unchanged for a LONG time r&d wise.
a friend has the ktm 300 enduro 2ST and loves it.
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: andydunne on November 07, 2012, 06:24:38 AM
TM here in europe are becoming popular and are supposed to be very powerful bikes. Dunno if they are available in America though
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: snoopjonnyjon on November 07, 2012, 06:59:10 AM
I have a TM dealer in my town... yet he only gets in the MX bikes. That has never made sense to me.
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: Brute on November 07, 2012, 07:38:23 AM
After seeing that Husqvarna is possably planning a road legal 2 stroke dual sport for 2014 I am holding off to see how it specs out.
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: 81cr450 on November 07, 2012, 03:06:55 PM
TM does make a sweet looking bike & yes they do come into the states.
http://www.tmmotorcyclesusa.com/EN-300-2T.html Looks they've ditched the Ohlins all around  :-(. $1000 more than the others

As for parts & the KTM I read last night that the Husaberg is a KTM since 2011. Only with a headlight & 3 gal tank instead of 2 1/2, as well as cheaper.

I really like the "dream bike" IDKX500, what do they get for those $15000?

The OSSA's pipe looks tasty, It really does make sense to package it that way to boot. Hows the Gas Gas for getting part's?

I really aint in the market, it's just that the question of declining offroad bike sales has been brought up & the best way to sway the manufacturer's is buy what we want to see produced. What's the biggest KTM 300's can go ?  I've seen 330's but that side of Pinssonault's site been down for a bit.

PW550 would rock
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: ID KX500 on November 08, 2012, 12:07:55 AM

I really like the "dream bike" IDKX500, what do they get for those $15000?


$8995  If you go to the website you'll see it is a GasGas motor. I've had very excellent service for parts for my KX450F Christini. The design to put power to the front wheel is simpler than it may appear and low maintenance.
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: ID KX500 on November 08, 2012, 12:19:48 AM
Christini is doing some interesting new things. I believe the bikes will be around for the long haul.
(http://www.christini.com/wp-content/uploads/AWD-CHRISTINI-450-High-Ground-Gear-Left-Side_resize1-470x312.jpg)
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: Ims Roll on November 08, 2012, 01:04:28 AM
Does any one know where TM gets there motor and frame designs? i like there bikes but is it a KTM based motor like husaberg? and is the frame based off a modern day japan 450 or there design? that is what i would be looking at before making a big purchase. all the 300 2t are way cool but in reality i love the flex of a steel frame.

Personally id pick a husaberg 300 TE for it's so close to a KTM 300 that parts would not be to hard to find and the husa has the mapping switch, headlight/tail light and a few smaller things that would suit just perfect for my types of riding down here in Navada (lots of hard desert, sand, gravel washes, as well as mountain riding.
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: alward25 on November 08, 2012, 02:29:31 AM
I talked with Christini about a AFK5.  They said they could do it.  Only thing is they have to modify the tank so much you lose some range.  It would be better to put it in a 08 or newer KTM 450ish chassis.  So a KTM K5 Chrisitini!!!????  Might have to dust off my e-start plans and get to work!!!
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: ID KX500 on November 08, 2012, 03:01:01 AM
I talked with Christini about a AFK5.  They said they could do it.  Only thing is they have to modify the tank so much you lose some range.  It would be better to put it in a 08 or newer KTM 450ish chassis.  So a KTM K5 Chrisitini!!!????  Might have to dust off my e-start plans and get to work!!!

I've had the same bike bouncing around in my head. Found a KTM 520 roller,,, found out it is the old chassis. Need the newer frame.

What I like on the Christini 300 is the e-start option,,6 speed,,, off the rack pretty sweet bikes.
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: snoopjonnyjon on November 08, 2012, 04:52:05 AM
Hows the Gas Gas for getting part's?


I've actually never had to purchase genuine Gas Gas parts for mine. The Ohlin's forks take the same seals as my KX500, the rest of the chassis was basically a rip-off of a 90's perimeter frame KX250. Brake parts, etc all had a japanese cross reference. The engine parts I've needed were able to use Suzuki.

Things might be different now, but on my old 2002, it's almost like a frankenbike taking parts from a bunch of other bikes.
Title: Re: New 2012-13 2-stroke bike, what do you buy?
Post by: 81cr450 on November 09, 2012, 04:20:51 PM
frankenbike  :-D Thats great , my wife give's me crap about my Frankenstein creations.

I'm amazed at the price of the Christini, they must have a dang good "in" with Gas Gas considering just the bike retails around $7800

http://www.christini.com/awd-technology/about-the-technology

Quite interesting how they've transfered the power

They even offer a frame kit, there you go AF550 Christini would be pretty slick