KX Riders
Maintenance & Technical => KX500 Super Motard => Topic started by: sandblaster on October 04, 2012, 10:29:46 AM
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BUILDING A STREET LEGAL KX500 SUPERMOTO.
Since I live in Oregon it is just about impossible to get a dirt bike made street legal.
Just a few years ago it was easy.
Put a dual sport kit on it, a high output stator, some Dot tires, a Quick DMV inspection and away you went.
I have heard of different ways of doing it, from paying off a DMV employee to re-stamping the VIN on a frame.
None of these ideas are good and can only result in serious trouble if you get caught.
The easiest way is to find a KX500 that was plated in Oregon before 2006.
I did manage to find a couple of frames that had been plated in Oregon but every deal I put together fell apart.
After a few years of frustration I found a street legal KX500 frame that had last been plated in Idaho.
I bought the frame and received the Title, current registration, and a plate.
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/BUILDING%20A%20STREET%20LEGAL%20KX500%20SUPERMOTO/DSCN3716.jpg)
So, I took the info to the DMV.
They wanted to do a VIN inspection.
No problem, I had the frame in the front seat of my truck.
The DMV person (Gender and name will not be used) inspected the VIN and we went back inside.
They disappeared into a back office for about 5 minutes.
When they came back I was told that they needed to see more of the bike then just the frame.
They said that it had to look like a motorcycle.
They said that the engine didn't have to be in it, but that it had to look like a motorcycle.
I'm thinking to myself, "How dumb is that?".
What difference would it make?
However, dumb that may seem that's my next step.
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Ok, the DMV want's it to look like a bike before they will transfer the title.
They said it didn't have to have an engine in it so this is what I have come up with:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/BUILDING%20A%20STREET%20LEGAL%20KX500%20SUPERMOTO/DSCN3776.jpg)
I'll let you know what they say tomorrow :D
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What are you using for a lighting coil?
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I have no idea......
Probably something like this:
http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,8353.0.html (http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,8353.0.html) :wink:
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I went to the DMV this morning.
There were further questions about the bike not having an engine or odometer.
I explained to them what I had been told the first trip in, that the engine was not required and nobody said anything about an odometer.
However, I told them that I would go back to the shop and get a odometer.
After looking the paperwork over they said it wasn't really necessary as there was no mileage on the bike from the previous owner.
So here was the result:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/KX500%20SUPERMOTO%20BUILD%20OEM-CYCLE/PLATE.jpg)
I have heard from a few people that after issuing a plate for a dirt bike the Oregon DMV requested the plates back after 4-6 months.
So, my next plan is to do only minor work to the bike until about 6 months has passed.
Once I'm in the clear, then I will get this project done.
Stay Tuned :D
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A little more progress:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/KX500%20SUPERMOTO%20BUILD%20OEM-CYCLE/6.jpg)
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I have heard from a few people that after issuing a plate for a dirt bike the Oregon DMV requested the plates back after 4-6 months.
So, my next plan is to do only minor work to the bike until about 6 months has passed.
Once I'm in the clear, then I will get this project done.
Stay Tuned :D
we have the same issue here in california...
Mine had to look like a bike, and apss brake inspections, light inspections etc etc..
I actually hung a 4 stroke exhaust on mine before I went to take it through... did the trick... also took the kick starter off (makes it look less dirt bike like).... as well as a few other tricks that are massivly illegal and I wont mention here..
You arnt safe untill the "renewal" goes through...
but within 2-4 months... the paperwork should have cleared (in our case sacramento).. and your 90% clear.. only after that its a fluke
I danced and sang a song when my Kx made it past the first renewal.....
You should be safe though... they mostly watch for late modle stuff (2004 and newer)
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Yeah I think I'm ok but we'll see.
If nothing else I'll have some nice clean and lubricated parts to sell :-)
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where are you at in oregon? I live in grants pass... I just moved up here from Bakersfield CA....
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About 2 hours north in Eugene.
Grants Pass from Bakersfield?
That's gotta be some culture shock :-D
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I can't stand the stock K5 chain rollers:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/10-25-12/1.jpg)
Sealed bearings are much better :-)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/10-25-12/2.jpg)
I was all out of 97-04 KX500 forks so I did some research and found that the 96-98 KX125 and 96-98 KX250 forks have the same external dimensions.
So I just happen to have a pair of 98 KX250 forks in inventory.
As it turns out the only pair I have had the front brake hydraulic hose holder tab broken off.
So, I made a new one...
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/10-25-12/9-2.jpg)
Perfect.
Upon disassembly I discovered that it had a brand new Hinson Clutch Basket with no wear. SCORE!
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/10-25-12/7.jpg)
The cylinder plating is in excellent condition so all I need is a new piston and rings.
I could have re-used the old piston but why bother at this point?
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/10-25-12/5.jpg)
Standard timing:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/10-25-12/3.jpg)
The rest of the disassembly went smoothly:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/10-25-12/4.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/10-25-12/8.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/10-25-12/9-1.jpg)
When I bought this bike I was told that 3rd gear was bad.
As it turns out, all the gears including 3rd looks good (Yes, even the dogs).
Here was the real problem:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/10-25-12/9.jpg)
That is the snap ring that holds 3rd gear in place.
No wonder it wouldn't stay in gear :D
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Ill take that hinson off your hands ...
thats the reason anytime I have a set of KX cases appart... they ALWAYS get new snap rings...
(Usmc500 bitched about this... as added cost.... Told him I wont put it back together without)
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Take more pictures of that CYL.... somone has had a dremel to it.
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Good eye.
I noticed it but didn't say anything about it.
I'll take some more pics tomorrow.
Thanks!
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Any body ever park a KLR 250 beside a kx 500 I have always played with the idea of transplanting a 500 into a klr 250 to make one street legal They go pretty cheep and should be comparable in wait.
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Looks like a great build. I don't want to hijack the thread but am doing a rebuild myself and was wondering where is the best place to order the snap rings? Any other must replace parts while you have the cases split? Thnks
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I can't stand the stock K5 chain rollers:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/10-25-12/1.jpg)
Sealed bearings are much better :-)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/10-25-12/2.jpg)
Absolutely agree....I slapped on a set of T.M.Designs rollers a few months back.Not only do they last way longer than stockers...but now the chain does'nt even come close to the sub-frame,(I do have a shield on the frame though,just in case :wink:)
(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/foxx4afoxx/mxz-x/HPIM0855.jpg)
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I finally finished fixing one of the threaded inserts that are used to hold the sub frame on.
A little welding, drilling, and tapping and were as good as new :-)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/12-26-12%20super%20moto/DSCN5629.jpg)
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Looks like a great build. I don't want to hijack the thread but am doing a rebuild myself and was wondering where is the best place to order the snap rings? Any other must replace parts while you have the cases split? Thnks
I'm going to order mine from http://www.powersportsplus.com/ (http://www.powersportsplus.com/)
I have ordered a bunch of parts from them and they always seem to come through.
I plan on replacing all the snap rings.
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Here's some pics of the cylinder porting:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/12-26-12%20super%20moto/DSCN5638.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/12-26-12%20super%20moto/DSCN5637.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/12-26-12%20super%20moto/DSCN5636.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/12-26-12%20super%20moto/DSCN5635.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/12-26-12%20super%20moto/DSCN5634.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/12-26-12%20super%20moto/DSCN5633.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/12-26-12%20super%20moto/DSCN5632.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/12-26-12%20super%20moto/DSCN5631.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/12-26-12%20super%20moto/DSCN5630.jpg)
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Ordered a bunch of parts today including all the snap rings for the transmission :-D
Tomorrow I am ordering all the bearings from Motorrads list:
Main bearings.
(NSK) 6306 ( Not sure what OEM rating is, but I run C3 rated) X2
KIPS bearings
(NSK) 608 (Stock is a C2 rating, I run C3) X2
Water Pump
(NSK) 608 (Stock is a C2 rating, I run C3) X2
Clutch Pressure plate
(NSK) 6001 (Stock is a C2, I run C3) X1
Shift Drum bearing
(NSK) 6905 (stock is a C2 I run a C3) X1
Transmission LEFT CASE
(NSK) 6305 (I run a C3, OEM is C2) (replaces OEM part number 92045-1011) X1
(OEM) This is the bearing My bearing house cant get.. so OEM it is 92045-0013 X1
Transmission RIGHT CASE
(NTN) 63/22 (I run a C3, OEM is C2) (Replaces OEM part number 92045-1134) X1
(special note on this bearing... ALOT of the ones out there now have a Plastic cage... Request a metal one, and CHECK IT before you leave
I Just dont trust plastic cages in transmissions....)
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I had a bit of a issue with the air box.
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/HOW%20TO%20FIX%20A%20DIRT%20BIKE%20AIR%20BOX%20WITH%20A%20BROKEN%20THREA/1.jpg)
You can read how I resolved it here:
http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=161#p306 (http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=161#p306)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/HOW%20TO%20FIX%20A%20DIRT%20BIKE%20AIR%20BOX%20WITH%20A%20BROKEN%20THREA/9-7.jpg)
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Remember the stock KX500 droopy rear fender?
It looked ok back in 1989 but we are a couple of decades down the road :D
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/2001%20KX500%20REAR%20FENDER%20MOD/1-1.jpg)
One option is to get a newer rear fender and cut it up to fit.
So, which do you want to use?
I have used a 1992 KX250, 1998 KX250, and this is a 2005 KX250 rear fender.
These procedures work no matter which year of KX250 rear fender you use.
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/2001%20KX500%20REAR%20FENDER%20MOD/1.jpg)
Since this will not bolt right up you will need a few tools.
I used a bench grinder, hand grinder, drill, and a marker.
The first thing I do is remove the seat, exhaust, rear fender, and side covers.
Then I take the 2005 KX250 rear fender and attach it to the sub frame with these two bolts.
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/2001%20KX500%20REAR%20FENDER%20MOD/2.jpg)
And here:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/2001%20KX500%20REAR%20FENDER%20MOD/3.jpg)
I leave the bolts loose so I can quickly remove the fender for cutting.
As you can see, the rear fender is just pivoting on those two bolts.
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/2001%20KX500%20REAR%20FENDER%20MOD/4.jpg)
Because of the exhaust clearance issues I like to start on the right side first.
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/2001%20KX500%20REAR%20FENDER%20MOD/5.jpg)
I take a marker, put it through the exhaust hole in the sub frame and simply mark the outline of the exhaust hole:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/2001%20KX500%20REAR%20FENDER%20MOD/6.jpg)
A quick trip to the bench grinder, then remount with the two bolts and I use a hand grinder for touch up.
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/2001%20KX500%20REAR%20FENDER%20MOD/8.jpg)
So far I like what I see.
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/2001%20KX500%20REAR%20FENDER%20MOD/9-1.jpg)
Then I continue to mark area's that need to be removed, grind them, and touch them up until the fender fits as good as it can.
Last, I use some self taping screws to help the fender to the sub frame:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/2001%20KX500%20REAR%20FENDER%20MOD/9-4-1.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/2001%20KX500%20REAR%20FENDER%20MOD/9-2.jpg)
Unlike other fenders I have used, the 2005 KX250 rear fender has this area for the seat to ride up on.
So, what can you do to fix that?
You could put some stickers on it or in my case I will mount a tool bag back there :D
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/2001%20KX500%20REAR%20FENDER%20MOD/9-5.jpg)
Done.
Total mod time?
About an hour.
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/2001%20KX500%20REAR%20FENDER%20MOD/9-3.jpg)
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Looking sharp buddy... Im watching you :wink:
Need some ports like this for your build..
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/DSC_7179.jpg~orginal)
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Your right.... I could use some ports like that.
I'm watching you watch me :-P
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Your right.... I could use some ports like that.
I'm watching you watch me :-P
I'm watching you watching me watch you
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Today I installed the front fender and drilled the holes in it for the fairing pins.
I also discovered why you don't want to use a pre 96 K5 Swing arm with a newer K5....
The rear brake mount and caliper don't work!!!
So I had to find a newer swing arm, clean it up install new bearings and get it put back together..
Installed a rear brake with a SS hose and hydraulic switch for the rear brake.
For now I will stay with knobs and stock wheels.
I just want to get it on the road and see how I like it.
Once I decide if it will work for me then I'll get some better wheels and tires.
Here is where I finished up at for today:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/11-5-12%20SUPERMOTO/DSCN6013.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/11-5-12%20SUPERMOTO/DSCN6014.jpg)
Angry dog...
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/11-5-12%20SUPERMOTO/DSCN6010.jpg)
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Tweakers keep trying to steal my broken trailer.
So I though I would leave them a message:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/11-5-12%20SUPERMOTO/SIGN.jpg)
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Today I installed the front fender and drilled the holes in it for the fairing pins.
I also discovered why you don't want to use a pre 96 K5 Swing arm with a newer K5....
The rear brake mount and caliper don't work!!!
So I had to find a newer swing arm, clean it up install new bearings and get it put back together..
Installed a rear brake with a SS hose and hydraulic switch for the rear brake.
For now I will stay with knobs and stock wheels.
I just want to get it on the road and see how I like it.
Once I decide if it will work for me then I'll get some better wheels and tires.
Here is where I finished up at for today:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/11-5-12%20SUPERMOTO/DSCN6013.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/11-5-12%20SUPERMOTO/DSCN6014.jpg)
Angry dog...
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/11-5-12%20SUPERMOTO/DSCN6010.jpg)
what do you plan on running for a brake light / license plate mount?
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I have been looking online for something good.
Why, do you have something that I can't resist? :-D
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I have been looking online for something good.
Why, do you have something that I can't resist? :-D
I run the baja designs under fender LED one. best one I have found (for looks)
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Like this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Baja-Designs-Tusk-LED-Dual-Sport-Tail-Light-Brake-Light-BRAND-NEW-IN-PACKAGE-/251179632282?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a7b79069a&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Baja-Designs-Tusk-LED-Dual-Sport-Tail-Light-Brake-Light-BRAND-NEW-IN-PACKAGE-/251179632282?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a7b79069a&vxp=mtr)
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thats the one I run...
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/DSC_5892.jpg)
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Testing the wiring BEFORE I put it all together which is a good idea with my electrical abilities :shock:
Pencil point:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/KX500%20SUPERMOTO%20BUILD%20OEM-CYCLE/3-1.jpg)
Wide angle flood:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/KX500%20SUPERMOTO%20BUILD%20OEM-CYCLE/1-1.jpg)
Both:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/KX500%20SUPERMOTO%20BUILD%20OEM-CYCLE/2-1.jpg)
Command and control
The left red button Puts power to the rear brake light and all turn signals.
The right red button is for a small radiator fan.
The left toggle is for the flood beam.
The right toggle is for the pencil point beam.
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/KX500%20SUPERMOTO%20BUILD%20OEM-CYCLE/4-1.jpg)
Angry snarl of wires...
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/KX500%20SUPERMOTO%20BUILD%20OEM-CYCLE/5-1.jpg)
Making progress thanks to Alward25 Motorrad and a few others :-D
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Making progress thanks to Alward25 Motorrad and a few others :-D
Bite me..... :lol:
Id like some details on your fan... been thinking of shtickign it to mine...
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I have not found a specific fan to use but I have a few in a junk pile around here somewhere.... :-P
Anyway, I'm just getting it prepared just in case I decide to put one in later.
Perhaps a KLR250 fan....
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/KX500%20SUPERMOTO%20BUILD%20OEM-CYCLE/6-1.jpg)
It might still be a bit too large to clear the shrouds, I haven't really checked it...
Even if it does fit I'll build a small deflector to keep it from sucking air around the fan shroud where it overhangs the radiator.
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Hmmm, it might just barely fit:
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/KX500%20SUPERMOTO%20BUILD%20OEM-CYCLE/DSCN6313.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/KX500%20SUPERMOTO%20BUILD%20OEM-CYCLE/DSCN6313.jpg)
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That's big long). The KTM fans are nice and flat
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Yeah, but I don't have any of those new farkeled KTM fans in my junk piles.. :x
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You may also want to check out the Sport Bike fans. The fan on my 1992 CBR600F2 is very flat, as they need to be in those applications due to the valve cover being RIGHT behind the radiator. Any spare sport bikes laying around? :mrgreen:
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Thanks for the tip.
Nope, no sport bikes, just dirt and dual sport.
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Told you that light worked :evil: What is that funny looking thing under the rubber strap for the fuel tank rest???
Alex
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Told you that light worked :evil: What is that funny looking thing under the rubber strap for the fuel tank rest???
Alex
cant speak for him... but I have Inner tube folded over under mine to space the tank up (rubs the kick starter)
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Told you that light worked :evil: What is that funny looking thing under the rubber strap for the fuel tank rest???
Alex
cant speak for him... but I have Inner tube folded over under mine to space the tank up (rubs the kick starter)
It is top secret..... :-P
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I managed to get all the indicator lights wired to the switches...
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/KX500%20SUPERMOTO%20BUILD%20OEM-CYCLE/commandcenterzoom.jpg)
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I thought you wernt supposed to put up Christmas lights till after thanksgiving?
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Looks more like a spaceship control panel than some dirt bike bars.
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Cool Huh 8-)
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I'm definitely jealous
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One suggestion..
wire it so the bike WONT run without the rear tail light / brake light/ turnsignals powered...
Mine is wired that way... saves alot of Headache and possible run-ins with the "law" preventing me from "forgetting" to turn on the legal lights when I light her off...
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The one indicator led is to show the power to the tailight and blinkers is on or off. that way you have control of it and a dummy light. i usually need as many as possible.
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The one indicator led is to show the power to the tailight and blinkers is on or off. that way you have control of it and a dummy light. i usually need as many as possible.
Some guy told me that he liked it this way so that is what I did :-o
If I find it a problem I can always wire it so that it still has the indicator light and it won't run unless the light is on....
Then again I'm fairly lazy about such things and will probably forget all about it.
What were we talking about :?
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Just a quick update.
I've been sorting through the wiring.
I have the headlights, indicators, all switches, and turn signals all working even though I don't have any turn signals or rear brake light for the bike just yet.
Still sorting out the rear brake light.
The pressure switches are both working correctly so I know I'm close :-D
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I thought I had the turn indicators wired correctly. NO!!!! :-(
I took the harness apart again, found my mistake, and repaired it.
Now the turn indicators and turn signals light up correctly... :-)
I'm glad I don't do this for a living..
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Hope it was an easy fix. The wires should have been labeled. I hear it makes it easier :-D
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Yeah, everything was labeled.
It's a good thing too because when it comes to wiring, if it can be messed up, I will mess it up.
I won't bore you with the details but let's just say that when I turned on the left turn signal, the right indicator light came on :-(
Guess what happened when I turned the right turn signal on....
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Orange wire/ blue wire, sounds like an easy fix
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It was the little red and black wires that connected to the orange, blue, and black wires :-o
But then you knew that :roll:
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I went down to my favorite bike shop (Next to my own) http://www.procycle.us/ (http://www.procycle.us/)
I picked up a rear brake light, marker light, license plate holder, and LED turn signals.
Here's what it looks like installed on the bike:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=17)
I wired it all up and here is the results.
Running light:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=18)
Brake light actuated by the front brake lever and the Rear brake lever via hydraulic pressure switches:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=19)
Left turn signal:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=20)
Right turn signal:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=21)
These turn signals are very flexible which should come in handy with the way I ride :-)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=22)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=23)
Now I need to get the correct battery, make a box, and mount it in the air box.
More to come so stay tuned :-)
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Testing the battery fitment.
Looks like I got lucky :D
It is a Shorai Lithium Iron battery, 12Volts, 60 w/Hr, a/Hr 14, CCA 210, weight .663 Kg, 1.46lb, MAx charge rate 14A, P/N LFX14A2-BS12
I wanted a little smaller battery but this will do nicely and fits better then I could have hoped for.
Note: this battery is just sitting in the box.
I will still need to build some mounts to hold it firmly in place.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=84)
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This sure is a loooonnnngggggg muffler.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=95)
That's better :-D
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=101)
With no sound laws on the street where I live I might as well be heard even if they don't see you..
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Well, I couldn't leave well enough alone.
I still have to wait for my square tubing so it will be a while before this is done:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=107)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=110)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=111)
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Going to run stock number plates? Or cut them up to match. (think it was alex that had his trimmed up)
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I'll probably trim them but I won't know where or how much till I get a little further in the build.
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I still have a black and white set that are trimmed if you want any ideas :-D
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I'd love for you to post a pic of them :-D
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And then I started thinking about:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=120)
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Now that would be a 1st,and a "trick" look!!
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Thanks!
I ordered the tubing for the outlets.
We'll see how long it takes to get here :-D
I have the holes drilled in the end for the dual outlets so now I just need to rework the internal baffling.
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Ok, here is where I am at tonight.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=133)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=134)
I'm waiting for the tubing for the outlets.
A little polish and clean up and we'll see what we get :-D
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NICE!...I can't wait to hear your thoughts once you've gotten a chance to ride it and see how it sounds and if it gives you any substantial low end snap.
Looks awesome!!
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Then again, maybe I'll do something like this:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=135)
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I was asked how I was going to make the internal baffling.
This is a rough idea.
I am tig welding the two pieces of internal baffling with some small pieces of plate not shown in the pics.
The lower tube will be functional but the upper tube will take the major volume of exhaust.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=138)
Even though this will be primarily for street use I am installing some stainless steel mesh for a spark arrestor.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=139)
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The aluminum tubing arrived today so I cut it in half at the approximate finish angle and took the pieces to have them tig welded.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=141)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=142)
Once the pieces are tigged together I will finish shaping them and then have them tigged to the muffler body.
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Just a tad more progress..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=143)
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A little clean up after weld by my buddy Trav..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=167)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=168)
A little polish from CP&M
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=169)
A little paint
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=170)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=171)
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A little more paint.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=186)
Done for now:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=203)
Perhaps a little Sharkhide to preserve it?
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you need to tie that beard up so it dosnt get tangled in that buffer :-D :-D
You will have to record what that sounds like when its running
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I'm glad this thread didn't disappear. Following along. Exhaust looks great. Going to hear that one before you see it.
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you need to tie that beard up so it dosnt get tangled in that buffer :-D :-D
You will have to record what that sounds like when its running
I'm glad this thread didn't disappear. Following along. Exhaust looks great. Going to hear that one before you see it.
Yeah the guy that did the polishing usually tucks his beard into his shirt before he starts but I had just got through showing him some new buffing tricks and he was excited to try them out.
I use to work at that company for 12 years and I use to experiment with polishing after work for my own projects.
Thanks!
I'm glad it didn't disappear either.
I would have re-posted but it would have taken some time to get it done.
In fact, I'm very happy that we got back most if not all of our data except for the stuff posted in the last week or so.
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What a great build. Have not touched mine since installing the lighting stator. Not wired yet either. Really glad you guys were able to recover all the information you have. Very cool.
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Yeah, it's been fun.
I need to start spending some more time on it soon.
And then of course there's my AF build begging for attention too....
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I went down to the shop this last week to fire up the bikes since it had been a few months. The ‘runners’ are inside, so opened the door and moved one out. Dead battery. Since it had a LoJack system on it, I figured that was the cause. Charged the battery while I removed the LoJack. Still would not start. Load tested the battery. It is no good. Hmmm. Got a new one yesterday and decided to start them all today. Got to my TW200 enduro and found another bad (one cell shorted) battery. I am pissed as I am sure the battery is less then two years old, and the bike lives inside the garage. Decide to work on the KX5 project and am just not into it. Everything looks like a pain in the a$$ to accomplish. Think about selling it again. Dog walks up and wipes some of the sh!t he has been eating on my arm. Feel like beating the crap out of everything in the shop with a hammer.
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/nadia_bored_like_hell/screaming.jpg)
Figured out I last ate at b-fast time. I am diabetic. This is stupid. Ate and checked on the battery purchase date of the bad battery in the TW200. 2006. Over six years old. Not too shabby! Things are looking up! Still thinking about the KX5 SuMo project though. Just not as into it as I should be. Not sure it will be worth much more if I finish it, and I can pull the MZB now and get about the same for the bike, but recoup most of my money on the MZB. Sigh. I am getting old…
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HANG IN THERE BROTHER!!! :-D
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No doubt, you just need to keep looking forward to the biggest smile on your face that you have ever had... :mrgreen:
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I sent the crank out to Pinsonnault Racing for a rebuild using a IMS rod, weld, true, and balance.
And, I installed the left radiator screen.
I didn't want you to think that this project was going nowhere.... :-D
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=315)
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say....that's a nice triple clamp. :-D
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Yeah, I stole them off of alward25's bike :mrgreen:
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aaaahhhh,haha...nice!!...he did have alot of nice stuff for sale.
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Yeah, I don't want to say how much of it is now mine :-)
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Most of it :-D
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This is what my K5 tire should look like after my break in ride:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=329)
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just make sure that pic of "yours" will be of the tire still smokin,and falling apart like string cheese :evil:
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That will be the first after break in ride :lol:
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Better but still not finished.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=344)
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Better but still not finished.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=344)
Lookin sharp! Now make sure the head, and exh ports match
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I'm on it.
Thanks!
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More like this?
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=364)
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Can still see some scratches! :-D
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Yeah, I'm having a hard time getting some of those machine marks out.
I know I can get them all but I don't want to get into the gasket area :|
Maybe a few more hours of fondling it will help :-o
Or, if any of you have some suggestions......
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I was giving you a hard time :-o, but, if you could chuck it up in a 4 jaw, and run at a safe speed. Watch the fingers!
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I was giving you a hard time :-o, but, if you could chuck it up in a 4 jaw, and run at a safe speed. Watch the fingers!
Yeah, I knew you were.
I wasn't really happy with the squish area so I will try again next week.
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That polish compound is crap. I'll give you some tips later. (drinking around the fire at the desert)
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Great!
I'm taking off tomorrow and won't be back till Tuesday.
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Or, if any of you have some suggestions......
Quit making your fingers dirty and sore. :-D
Put the head on and apply your talents to something beneficial. There are no gains to be had from a mirror finish, in fact it may be counterproductive, especially in the squish area.
Polish rant over,
Larry
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Sitting here watching Curling reading KXRiders instead of working on the bike. Glad to hear someone say what I was thinking about the polishing. Looks great though!
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Or, if any of you have some suggestions......
Quit making your fingers dirty and sore. :-D
Put the head on and apply your talents to something beneficial. There are no gains to be had from a mirror finish, in fact it may be counterproductive, especially in the squish area.
Polish rant over,
Larry
Thanks Larry,
This one looked so nice the way it was I wasn't going to.
I have read many articles on the subject of whether or not to polish.
The consensus seems to be evenly split.
I figured since I had to build two engines that I would do it on one and not the other and see what happens.
In the end I decided to do this one because Motorrad made me do it :evil:
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I've looked into polishing in the past too,and really did'nt find enough evidence to motivate me to give it a shot...it basicaly came down to a battle of opinions.
Sandblaster,if you happen to notice a substantial gain,I'll give it a try....
til then,I'm still hoping to bring home that one sweat-hogg from the bar one of these nights that can put a polishin on "MY" piston crown like that!! :-D
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Hoooray its done.
Nice looking Job Blaster :wink:
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/IMG_2335-L_zps099cb609.jpg)
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Hoooray its done.
Nice looking Job Blaster :wink:
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/IMG_2335-L_zps099cb609.jpg)
Thats good work Blaster......love the rake on that thing.......I bet it's stable as hell!! :-D
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Thanks guys!
I built it that way because the chicks dig it :mrgreen:
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Can you guess what this is for?
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=479)
Nope, not the grease :lol:
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Can you guess what this is for?
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=479)
Nope, not the grease :lol:
its easy when you name the Picture file. :roll:
that and there is one on several of my bikes.. so it makes it easy to spot.
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Can you guess what this is for?
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=479)
Nope, not the grease :lol:
its easy when you name the Picture file. :roll:
that and there is one on several of my bikes.. so it makes it easy to spot.
Well hello Mr. Fancy pants :wink: "I seen every kind of rain".
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Takes one to know one :-D
I had to take about 5/16" off the bottom of the knuter valve but it sure fits good now 8-)
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Can you guess what this is for?
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=479)
Nope, not the grease :lol:
its easy when you name the Picture file. :roll:
that and there is one on several of my bikes.. so it makes it easy to spot.
Natürlich wissen Sie, was es ist.
Sind Sie nicht der unglaubliche motorrad!
A little something was lost in the translation :roll:
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das ein wenig braunere Riechen war in der Ubersetzung verloren :-P
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See,, No bueno. 8-)
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Its a pin for your Scotts Stabilizer. Did I win? Did I win?
S
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Motorrad won.....
But then, who really cares :-P
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A little trimming of the pin...
A little grease in the tower...
A few bolts and it's done..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=480)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=481)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=482)
Never had one before so I can't wait to try it out.
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Sweet!
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Motorrad won.....
But then, who really cares :-P
I really care :cry: No, that's a lie, sort of :wink:
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You know who you are... :|
Thanks for the stabilizer :-)
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you need better looking handlebars
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I know, they are sad...
I guess it's time for a trip to my junk piles..
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That bike has GOT to be from Australia! Those boys have some imagination and the balls to actually build the imagination with what is on hand.
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Australians are way to high tech for us yokels in Oregon.
Just give us a chaw, some bailing wire, and some vice grips and we can fix anything 8-)
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i luv my scotts stabilizer, i'm taking long fast sweeping dirt road corners like it was on the bitumen, get your bum off the seat and pull the bike into the corner just like a road bike, its a real confidence booster knowing the back end is tracking in line with the front wheel. and if you back off the adjustment you can set how far out you want the rear tyre to be in the corner, but with much better control, best of both worlds at the twist of the knob.
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A little more on water pump cover modifications...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=490)
Just knocking off the rough edges...
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So I'm going along on this project and figured that I should get the engine started...
I strip down the cases, push out the bears and seals, carefully inspect them looking for damage, out of spec journals ect..
Looks good.
I take the cases next door and have the sandblasted.
Afterward I clean up the outside of the cases on a wire wheel.
I don't want them polished, just a nice finish that is easy to keep clean.
I then told Motorrad what I did and what does Motorrad say, "You didn't sandblast them did you?"
I say, "I know it was a mistake.....
Which is why I started to wire wheel them and get back some surface finish that you can actually clean up.
I probably should have soda blasted them but live and learn...
I don't want them highly polished just a nice natural finish.
You can see it in this pic.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=525)
Then Motorrad says, "Its not the outside that you need to worry about after sand blasting.
its the inside..."
I reply, "Is it left over debris, surface finish, or porosity?
Or something else entirely?"
Motorrad says, " Many nascar and baja teams had this problem in the past.. of motors not lasting..
when you sand or Bead blast parts... the particulate embeds in the parts. slowly releasing over time, heat cycles etc.........
I'm sure your smart enough to know where it all goes after it becomes dislodged."
I feel the sting of the back hand across my face... :-D
After a few more comments back and forth I decide to soda blast the cases and wire bush them.
I went out and bought a soda blaster and cleaned the cases again.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=577)
And
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=578)
Looks great and feels better on the inside.
I began thinking about what a pain it would be to wire brush the cases and almost skipped it.
I'm glad common sense kicked in and I got my Dremel out.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=579)
After just a few seconds of cleaning I noticed this, it feels gritty:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=580)
It took about an hour to do one side of this case but I feel a lot better about it now:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=581)
I air hosed it out, wiped it down, and it feels clean and smooth.
Thanks for saving my Bacon Motorrad... 8-)
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When spending that much time looking around my engine case I started noticing a few details...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=582)
Does it hurt to leave it?
Apparently not as Kawasaki thought it was ok to leave.
But I don't like it.
Should it be removed?
What about this oil hole.
Believe it or not I have a set of new factory cases and this hole does not even go all the way through.
It's as if only part of the hole got drilled :(
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=583)
And this hole:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=584)
Should these be clean up, enlarged, or polished?
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i would enlarge it a little bit and modify for better oil flow between gears and clutch.
i always modify my oil holes when i dissamble one of my motors. . i make it close to the case-bottom for a better oil flow. 2.effect : if you drain it you could get more of the old oil out of the motor.
the drain holes on the crank bearings you can also drill 0,5mm - 1mm bigger for better lubrication... on my old 83 kx250, i changed them from the stock 3,5mm up to 4,5mm. on my ´86 kx500 motor it was already done by the pre-owner :-D
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Thanks motopunk.
I had another member suggest those same things.
Although there is some that say not to enlarge the oil holes for the main bearings.
Cleaning them is always a good idea :-D
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Thanks motopunk.
I had another member suggest those same things.
Although there is some that say not to enlarge the oil holes for the main bearings.
Cleaning them is always a good idea :-D
sometimes is only clean up the oil holes the better way to perfektion. :-)
its an old skill of my dad.. he wrenched on motocross bikes since the dinosaurs walked through the backyards... :lol:.
before 1990 here in old East Germany behind the Iron Curtain only cz bikes allowed or any own buildings were permitted.
.. were crazy times here :roll: ...
in west germany they had everything all the time. not only this old CZ-crab based on the ´70s. my dad had to tune the engines and change the frames for more wheel travel. ...thats a little bit history of my childhood... :-)
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How well I remember the Iron Curtain.
I remember feeling sorry for those on the other side :cry:
We grew up materially poor but motorcycle rich :-)
Thanks for the info and the back ground.
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luckily it's over ...
but all had money and there was nothing to buy,
now there is everything and only a few have the big money ... that's the irony here :-)
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A little case prep..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=610)
A little JB-Weld..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=622)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=623)
Thanks for the tips motorrad and others...
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Don't you hate it...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=494)
After a few minutes next door at Trav's
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=498)
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Oh no..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=758)
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Stock?
Yep, all but the piston...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=759)
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Make sure you check the piston wall clearance in thar. Don't need to recreate usmc500 s bike
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I hear that.
I mic'd everything.....
And true to form the ring end gaps were .020"
What is up with that Wiseco?
Yes, my cylinder is 86mm.
Good thing this will be a low hour runner before it gets a cleaned up engine.. :lol:
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A little case prep..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=610)
A little JB-Weld..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=622)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=623)
Thanks for the tips motorrad and others...
Whats the JB weld for. I try to mix some up and slather it all over whenever the opportunity presents itself.
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Different builders have discovered in that area i applied the JB-weld too has a tendency to leak air.
So why take a chance?
It's easy to take care of now while it's all apart and crazy clean :-)
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YZ400F foot pegs and a little more assembly.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=761)
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I was within 1 minute of starting it up for it's first heat cycle when a over flowing carb made me go home for the day :x
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I was within 1 minute of starting it up for it's first heat cycle when a over flowing carb made me go home for the day :x
tisk tisk. didnt use the proper float tool to set the hight first...
also.. the YZ400 pegs fit right on??? If they do.. you just made my YEAR! and cost me about $120
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You right, I didn't set it up.
It was running great 3 years ago but it's been tossed around since then and I should have known better.
I was just hoping it would be close enough for a short heat cycle...... NO!!!!!
So now I get to do it right tomorrow.
Oh yeah the pegs bolted right on after about 5 minutes of tuning with a bench grinder and a stint with Mr. Sawsall....
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You right, I didn't set it up.
It was running great 3 years ago but it's been tossed around since then and I should have known better.
I was just hoping it would be close enough for a short heat cycle...... NO!!!!!
So now I get to do it right tomorrow.
Oh yeah the pegs bolted right on after about 5 minutes of tuning with a bench grinder and a stint with Mr. Sawsall....
what exactly had to be cut, and grindededed on??!!!
Im in LOVE with the Fastway F3 pegs (made by pro-moto billet) on my KTM (which I had to machine a bunch of stuff to make work, as they arnt ment for that bike)...... But would LOVE LOVE LOVE to have a set on the K5...
let me know what had to be done so I know if I can make em work on the big K5 or not
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I double checked the pegs and they were from a 03 YZ450F.
This should help..
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The cool thing is if you grind to much off you can lasso a seagull passing by and get some squeezing on it. :-o
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The cool thing is if you grind to much off you can lasso a seagull passing by and get some squeezing on it. :-o
how does the spring attach if you lop off that "spacer"
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Ok, I'll take some pics tomorrow.
I did have to bend the springs a bit but only a bit..
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Ok, I'll take some pics tomorrow.
I did have to bend the springs a bit but only a bit..
reason Im asking.. is the fastway pegs have moveable inner pins, so you can run them in hight locations.
which could be a problem modifying
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Better pics are here...
I'll transfer them to this site later...
http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=425 (http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=425)
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First heat cycle..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZZHiDC0D4Y&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZZHiDC0D4Y&feature=youtu.be)
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Third heat cycle..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aylQHPS3KNg&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aylQHPS3KNg&feature=youtu.be)
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First heat cycle..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZZHiDC0D4Y&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZZHiDC0D4Y&feature=youtu.be)
boy needs to learn how to kick a 500. he is kicking it like a 250. go PAST TDC then kick
what fell off in the first heat cycle?
Fun how in 45 SECONDS.. your already at 125F
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:-D Yeah he weighs about 130lb so that doesn't help either.
Lot's of things fell off, mostly chassis bolts that were finger tight.
All the engine bolts were torqued and looking good.
Standing back you could see bolts unscrewing... :-o
No worries, we got out the torque wrench and gave it a once over.
We will be re-torquing the engine bolts tomorrow.
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that pipe isnt as loud as I thought it would be. When you were first doing it.. I thought it would be BRUTAL
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I was surprised as well.
But I think the extra internal baffling helps with that.
I want to build another sometime but I need to get other mods tested first :-)
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whats in it for coolant?
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For our baseline tests 50/50 Preston/distilled water.
Head temp
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=783)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=784)
I'm in desperate need of a pipe for this project.
The pipe on it is bent and does not mount real well.
This will work for now but it's going bye bye soon.
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which prestone? some have silicates. :|
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I'm sure it's the one with silicates :-o
I'll look tomorrow.....
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19 seconds... and your at 115F
what was the outside temp?
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Don't know but the bike had been sitting in the sun for a while.
Just sitting in my shop right now (And it cool in here) at full cool the head is at 89 and the water is at 81.
Took it for a short trip up the road after bleeding the brakes.
Yes, it's nice to be able to stop....
After about 10 minutes of riding this is where the temps were at.
Head temp on the left, water temp on the right.
Not even warmed up.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=794)
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Do I recommend using this stuff?
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=808)
No.
But, for the sake of establishing a base line I am using it for the first few tests....
Please note that it is Silicate, phosphate, borate, and nitrite free.... :-o
I still don't normally use it....
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I decided that the gold handle bars from my junk piles were just too beat up for this project.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=810)
I need to install the mirrors and the plate.
Also I need to work at getting the main gauge hooked up and calibrated :-o
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I decided that the gold handle bars from my junk piles were just too beat up for this project.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=810)
I need to install the mirrors and the plate.
Also I need to work at getting the main gauge hooked up and calibrated :-o
i think it also needs a black tank for the perfekt look.. 8-) 'm excited to see the finished bike.. :-)
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Yeah I have to admit a black tank would be nice.
And eventually I'll find something...
But there are other things it needs so it's all about priorities.
I am going to use this bike as a test bed for several mods and configurations so it will be a while before it's done :wink:
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that reminds me to my own k5-projekt. i,m in the 3.year since i started it. and there are still some things to do and testing. 8-)
some things need a long time to find the perfektion... :-D
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And, the more I learn, the more I know I need to learn, so more testing is required :lol:
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i´m always saying: if you go with open eyes and open ears through life, you will always learn anything that is crossing your way... :-D
yesterday i finished a selfmade 10mm reedspacer for my ´83 kx250 and on weekend i will test which diference in performance it makes. at last race i had a big fight with suzuki rm465, maico440 and husquarna 430 . i need a little bit more torque in the middle to come better out of the slippery corners and then i hope to get again in front of the big smokers in next race... :-D.
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Yes!
Let us know how it goes...
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yes, but then in the reedspacer topic, where it has to be ... :wink:
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Yes, men of steel must not hijack threads :lol:
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Yes, men of steel must not hijack threads :lol:
yeah... :-) ...but the man of steel has to watch out for the rain... :-D we all know the wizzard of oz... :wink:
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Replaced the seals and oil today.
Found a few issues with how they were reassembled with a previous owner.
Took care of everything and mounted the forks back on.
Now I need to find some fork guards, mount the license plate, charge the battery and go ride it...... If it will stop raining...
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My engine work continues at a agonizing pace..... :lol:
Here's the next phase of the clean up for the engine cases.
After making sure that all the gasket surfaces were as clean as I could get them (Pretty clean) I lapped them.
I have to admit that I would never have tried it because how can you lap engine cases together without ruining them?
Then Yodarad turned on the light for me.
First, you need some Timesaver lapping compound, some ATF, and a case bolt that is long enough to go through the cases without bottoming out.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=811)
Mix up the time saver with some ATF and apply it to one of the case halves.
I found it's easiest to do it on a rag so that the bottom case does not slide around on the table.
Then, take the other case half and place it over the other case so that they are sitting flush as they would be when you assemble the cases.
The Timesaver should be squishing out a little.
Then take the long case bolt and run it down one of the holes but DO NOT tighten it.
Then grab the other end of the case and lightly wiggle it back and forth about 1/4".
After about 30 seconds or so, remove the bolt and put it at the opposite end of the case and wiggle the cases about 1/4".
Then remove the bolt and continue to move the bolt around the cases in a star pattern.
You will most likely need to apply a little more Timesaver at some point.
When done, clean it up and then put the to halves back together.
Mine fit so tight that when I touch them together you can feel the air squishing out :D
Then pull them apart and you can feel the vacuum sticking them together :o
Thanks again to Yodarad for the great idea!
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just standard practice... well for me. :roll:
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Yodarad...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=802)
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now dont forget to do the same for several other parts of the motor.
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Head to cylinder and cylinder to cases.... Do you do anything else?
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Head to cylinder and cylinder to cases.... Do you do anything else?
with timesaver... no..
I do lap the flywheel's to the crank. AND install them with retaining compound. (my flywheels dont slip)
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Nice.
When you get back I'll ask some questions about that :lol:
Now go have fun and come back with some awesome riding stories..
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I was discussing tire and wheel sizes at another forum.
Previous to this I was going to use a 4.25" rim with a 150mm tire width.
Then someone chimed in with using a 5" rim width.
That would flatten out the tire crown which should make it harder to switch directions when cornering but could get more tire contact at extreme cornering angles depending on the exact tire model used.
Like all things, it's a trade off...
Then it was suggested to use a aprilia sxv swingarm with a 165mm tire and a 5" rim..
So, I looked at some pics and it has promise.
Guys on the CRF450R's are using them.... Hmmmmm......
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=818)
If I could find one cheap enough I would get it just to verify fact from fiction :-o
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Here's a nice little chart I found:
4.25"-4.50" rim=150 to 155 tire
5.00" rim=160 to 165 tire(+ a few very special SM specific 170 slicks)
5.50" rim=170 to 180 tire
6.00" rim=190 to 200 tire
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Here's a pic of the bike I got the swing arm info from.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=819)
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I think this is about as far as I want to trim the side covers.
Just enough to match the exit angle of the modded muffler...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=843)
New pipe is installed...
License plate is installed....
Charge the battery and hopefully take it for a ride tomorrow weather permitting...
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I'll be building some wheels for this bike sometime this summer :roll:
I'm going to use a 150mm (5.9055") for the rear tire.
So, I have the option of a 4.25" or 5" rim.
A 4.25" rim will cause the tire to be more rounded on the profile whereas a 5" will flatten the profile out.
So, A 4.25" rim should allow the bike to turn quicker from one direction to another, but the 5" might have a slight advantage in the contact area.
Which would you choose and why?
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Here's the packaging for the temp gauges.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=845)
I made a simple mount out of a piece of 1/8" x 1" aluminum.
Drilled two holes and bolted it down.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=846)
I used the peel and stick method to stick the gauges to the mount, only I did not use the tape that came with the gauges as it is too weak.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=847)
I mounted these the same way I did on my K5SM, head temp on the left, water temp on the right.
It would be hard to mount the water temp on the left because they don't give you a lot of wire to work with.
Now I just need to finish the wiring and take this beast out to the dunes...
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I've been working on the exhaust port polishing..
What a job.
Check out this casting flaw...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=849)
It's the same on both sides...
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Here's the packaging for the temp gauges.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=845)
I made a simple mount out of a piece of 1/8" x 1" aluminum.
Drilled two holes and bolted it down.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=846)
I used the peel and stick method to stick the gauges to the mount, only I did not use the tape that came with the gauges as it is too weak.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=847)
I mounted these the same way I did on my K5SM, head temp on the left, water temp on the right.
It would be hard to mount the water temp on the left because they don't give you a lot of wire to work with.
Now I just need to finish the wiring and take this beast out to the dunes...
Mmmmm coleslaw ham turkey.
the casting flaws in a K5 jug will make your head sping, and have you running in circles.
warning, you have to just leave some of them...
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Ok, when I'm done I'll have a glowing casting flaw :lol:
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Here's a pic of the bike I got the swing arm info from.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=819)
might be also an amazing look to your bike with this swingarm... cant wait to see it... :-D
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So far I have not found one to buy.
But I can be patient 8-)
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After running 6 heat cycles on it I rode it for a few hundred yards up and down the street.
It shifted fine through 4th gear with no issues.
On Friday I ran it for 20 minutes trying to get some starting heat numbers.
After the test I had to take it for a quick ride.
I pulled the clutch in and clicked it into first.
I gave it some throttle and let the clutch out.
It took off just fine.
Pulled in the clutch and up shifted into second and GGGGrrrrrrrtttt, GGGGrrrrrtttt... the gears were grinding.
But the bike went into second when I let off on the gas.
I thought I blew a shift, although I didn't see how that was possible as I wasn't getting on it.
Then I tried to shift into 3rd and GGGGrrrrrrrtttt, GGGGrrrrrtttt...the gears were grinding again..
I let off on the gas and it was in 3rd.
So I rode it back to the shop and parked it :-(
Today I pulled the clutch cover, clutch basket, ect so I could get a better look at the shift mechanism.
All the springs are there and in place.
I pulled the shift shaft out and inspected the pal, springs, everything that I can see that would be a problem.
Then I compared it to another shift shaft asy I have and it looks and functions exactly the same.
I spend about 30 minutes reading the Clymer but didn't see anything out of place.
Here is a pic with the shaft removed.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=887)
The shaft that came out of the bike is on the right.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=885)
Another view..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=886)
Finally found the problem....
I have to say that I feel like a real dummy...
Guess where the hang up and grinding was coming from....
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=888)
From the first time I rode the bike to the second time I changed the front sprocket to a 15T from a 14T.
My Dad was no mechanic but he always said, if you changed something and now there is a problem, go back and look at what you changed..
I had completely forgot that I changed the sprocket :lol:
Oh well, at least I can laugh at myself and perhaps someone will learn a valuable lesson.
Kinda feel like this...
http://www.mediacollege.com/downloads/sound-effects/movie/napoleon-dynamite/napoleon_freakingidiot.wav (http://www.mediacollege.com/downloads/sound-effects/movie/napoleon-dynamite/napoleon_freakingidiot.wav)
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funny. every time my buddys bring my their bike or car... and say "its not running right".. my very first question.. ALWAYS. is.
"what was the last thing YOU touched?"
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Yep.
If it hadn't been a week or so since I put the counter sprocket on till I rode it again I might have remembered it.
But as it was...
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done that adjusting for riding boots, I always feel silly :lol:
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As some of you may remember, my lights are battery powered only.
This means that I have to re-charge the battery after about 40 minutes of riding or no lights.
Yes, I am working on a more permanent solution but at this time I just want to see if I really want to keep it or sell it :lol:
For a temporary solution to charging the battery without having to remove the seat, I have added some charging wires that come out of the bottom of the air box drain.
No extra holes or cutting needed :-)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=935)
A couple of alligator clips and it's good to go.... For now :D
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are u running one or both lights? only need to run one on street during the day :-D
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1 light = 40 min....
2 lights = 20 min....
That's OK, I know this guy that has some MZB stuff that I will be dealing with.... Hopefully sooner rather then later :-)
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1 light = 40 min....
2 lights = 20 min....
That's OK, I know this guy that has some MZB stuff that I will be dealing with.... Hopefully sooner rather then later :-)
Did you ever hook up that Moose coil I sent ya?
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Not yet.
Just haven't gotten that far yet....
Soon.... Very soon.... :-D
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=816)
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Not yet.
Just haven't gotten that far yet....
Soon.... Very soon.... :-D
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=816)
moose rates it at 75watt. I want you to rev the K5 up and tell me what RPM it puts out 75wat :lol:
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I'd blow my motor before I'd get 75 watts out of it....
Here is my first ride around town and some highway...
20 minute town ride 75 deg 37 hum Head 167 Water 138
40 minute town/freeway 75 deg 37 hum Head 161 Water 135
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=937)
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First real ride and..... it's incredibly fast (Knew that).
The brakes are marginal for the state of the suspension tune. (Knew that).
Handling stinks because of the knobbies on it. (Knew that).
Suspension is too soft...(Knew that).
So far, no surprises.
So, I have plenty more work to do :lol:
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So, I did a little more testing and added a Moose charging coil.
Don't know how well it works just yet but I'll update as I go.
I didn't know it but the moose coil requires that you remove 3-4 mm of the mounting posts.
Thanks for the heads up Motorrad.
So far I can't seem to get any voltage out of it but I do have an adjustable voltage regulator so I'm sure some tuning is in order :-)
Rode it a little harder today so here is the temp recording.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=941)
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Remember most motorcycle systems won't charge without something there to magnetic kick the field coil. And regulator system. Ie. A battery. Or big ass capacitor
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The yellow charging wire from new coil goes into the yellow regulator wire.
The regulator has two black and two red wires that goes to the battery.
Or you can hook up one black and one red to the battery, and one black and one red to a head light.
This particular regulator rectifier is set up for a 12 volt system but is adjustable.
The directions are unclear as to what the starting settings are
The battery never fell below 12.7 volts under load so I'm thinking that it's possible there wasn't enough of a drain yet for the regulator to do it's thing and turn on.
I'm just guessing here so help me out if I'm wrong..
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Finally got the new jetting in and installed it...
Way better.
Thanks for the recommendation Motorrad.
Also, installed new gearing in 15/42.
1st gear still revs out quick as expected but it is better.
2nd gear is a lot more usable but still loves to wheelie.
3rd gear will wheelie if you want it to.
4th gear? Don't know, I haven't really tried yet.
5th gear, heck no... :lol:
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After changing the jetting and the gearing I expected a bit of a change in water temp.
Today wasn't the best day to check, it's 59F and 45% humidity.
All this was city driving but not a lot of stop and go.
My max head temp was 152F and the max water temp 131F.
Average head temp was approximately 142F and the average water temp was 120F.
I wouldn't put a lot into these numbers as it was a bit chilly in my T-shirt riding around.
I would like to say that riding this thing around puts a smile on my face and I know it's just a matter of time before I get a ticket :lol:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=970)
I can't even imagine what a Motorrad SM would be like to ride....
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Lookin sharp Blaster!!
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Thanks.
I haven't really put a lot of effort into looks just yet.
Still tying up some minor loose ends.
Then I will be applying each cooling mod we've been working on and then I'll do some power mods..... :-o
To be honest, today was the first time I washed it since I got it running.
I even spent a few minutes cleaning up the swing arm with some Motorrad polish...
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haha,could've fooled me...looks quite clean in the pic...
I also noticed you have it parked in a special place... :lol:
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Yep.
Who else would ride something like that... Some old dude trying to get attention :lol:
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How is it for vibration at a steady pace?
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Not too bad.
If you put the kick stand down, get off the bike and let it idle, it will vibrate the bike in circles about twice a minute :-D
I wouldn't want to ride it for any real length of time on the street 2+ hours.
I think it will greatly improve when I build the stage 2 motor which will have a balanced crank.
I ordered some Warp 9 SM wheels today.
Should take about 2 weeks or so before they ship.
Warp 9 does not list them as a option but they will make them.
They said they don't get a lot of orders for them.
Understandable, who else want's to ride one on the street besides men of steel :D
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Warp 9 does not list them as a option but they will make them.
That is good to know that they do custom, how bad they gonna ding you if I might ask?
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Being a dealer I get them at cost, a little over 700 plus shipping so I'm guessing about 750.
Then I have a friend who owes me a huge favor.
I can't say exactly what he does but he ends up with many, many, sport tires with low lap times...
I have my dibs on some Dunlop tires to fit.
150/60-17 rear
110/?-17 front :lol:
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Too funny about the bike going in circles! Hope to finish my K5 before summer is over. Wife getting into riding track days put a big dent in my 'bike in work' schedule... Fun seeing her enjoying riding motorcycles for the first time. Then again, we went and looked at an 1199 Ducati a couple weeks ago. Ouch! $27K!
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Too funny about the bike going in circles! Hope to finish my K5 before summer is over. Wife getting into riding track days put a big dent in my 'bike in work' schedule... Fun seeing her enjoying riding motorcycles for the first time. Then again, we went and looked at an 1199 Ducati a couple weeks ago. Ouch! $27K!
27K?
It's only money :lol:
Circles... Yeah, I thought about video taping it but I'm afraid it might tip over...
If your building the engine, get the crank balanced.
I fully planned on putting a balanced crank in this bike but I stumbled across a engine that was ready to go so my stage 2 build will have to wait till later this year.
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No engine build. Runs good. All stock. Stock pipe. Ran out of my old engine oil about the time I tore it down to put in the lighting coil. Probably switching to the 800 that a lot of folks here like. May have to rejet, but that is as far as I plan on going with the engine.
Wife is not serious about the Ducati, which is good! I built her a 1st gen 250 Ninja that she really likes, and picked up a track bike just like it. That should keep her happy for now. Who knows? Maybe a K5 SuMo is in her future? Kind of doubt it!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/333bloh.jpg)
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Sweet.
My wife likes HP as well.
I guess that's why she has 3 hay burners.
And you thought bikes were expensive... :-o
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I just finished my reed and carb boot mods.
So..... it's time to bolt them on and add a 41mm carb for a top end boost.
Hopefully the weather will cooperate tomorrow so I can burn some knobs off :D
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I would spend the first week messing with sport bikes at stop lights.
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I would spend the first week messing with sport bikes at stop lights.
Trust me. It's fun
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We'll see :-D
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Today I installed my V-Force 2 reed at Hi-Tension setting and a PWK 41mm Pro Series Keihin carburetor.
Starting jetting:
Pilot: 55
Main: 168
Did I notice any difference?
Just a tiny tiny bit :o
No worries, it's very rich at the moment so I will need to figure the jetting out :)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1044)
Ignore the yellow wire, that is for a later post ..... :lol:
Temps were all very cool...
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what needle is in there?
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A long skinny one.... :lol:
I'll find out tomorrow and let you know.
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Hey! What's the yellow wire for?!?!? :-D one of these days I will get back to working on mine... Seems like summer is going by quickly.
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Yep, summer just started but it will be gone quick!
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Hey, this is Washington. We had one good weather day last weekend. We had a good summer! :-)
Just looked at the plate on the KZ1000 I have been working on every now and then and I have almost had it for a year! Should have it on the road in the next week or so. Hope to sell it to a guy at work as he has expressed interest. Get rid of it, and the 'doner' bike, paint the track bike THEN I can get the KX5 back on the lift to finish it... Geez...
Was thinking longer links on the rear to lower the KX5, but may hold off on that as the 17's front and rear may bring it down enough. Have seen some SuMo's at track days supporting the wife. Be fun to see the KX5 out there!
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Yeah, Pacific Northwest summers are short :cry:
My 17's should be here tomorrow.
I'm hoping to have the tires on next week.
I'll let you know the height difference.
In fact, before I forget, the rear part of my seat measures 39.5" with stock wheels and tires.
It might go up 1/8-1/4" of an inch if I hadn't burned off a good portion of my knob :lol:
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Loosing four inches in the front and two in the rear for rim size, plus the street tires should be shorter then the nasty knobbies on it now. Should be three and a half to four inches shorter overall. Might be enough! Easier to start if I stand on something even with the compresson release. Let's see, longer links to bring it down more, put the forks up through the clamps and install clip on's. Hey! A crotch rocket! :-P Naw, I would rather have more of a flat track look, but don't think that will happen with this frame. Will look forward to pic's of yours!
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The wheels came in today.
Now it's time to get some rubber on these babies...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1045)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1046)
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NICE!!!.....I love the color combo :-D
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I just want to stick like glue on the hard stuff... But if it adds a little bling, then that is good too :-D
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Dang! Looks sharp! I went back just a bit in the thread, but did not say where you got your wheels. ProCycle? What is your rim width?
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I'm a Warp 9 dealer so I ordered them from myself :lol:
17 x 3.5 inch front wheel
17 x 4.25 inch rear wheel
320mm oversized brake rotor
Caliper adapter bracket
Aluminum Sprocket in 40T
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Hopefully the tires will be on next week.... :-o
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They have a KX 500 oversized rotor and relocator bracket, I asked several times and they did want to do it, lucky.
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No, they just like me :-D
Yeah I was surprised as well.
Now you know..
Better get building.
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I checked the ProCycle site as they had a 320mm EBC brand set up, and it still shows available for 00-04 KX500. $200. Just FINALLY signed my refinance on the house this morning. Took long enough! Can start buying stuff again! Want to get the wheels going for my KX5 SuMo. Since I am keeping the stock green color, not sure about the wheel color. Yours are sure pretty though.
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Years ago I bought my 320 EBC rotor for my sand bike from ProCycle.
Needless to say, stopping in general is not an issue.
Wheel color is always a hard choice.
What wheels are you going to get?
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They offer Sun or Excel in the 3.5/4.25X17 size, silver, black or gold, so that was to be my choice. I have a set of stock hubs in great condition, and considered building them myself and just buying the rims and spokes. At $80 to build them I will let them do it! Been over 10 years since I did a set, plus it would be nice to just get them all built up and put them on. I was going to purchase a Baja offroad kit also, but am tempted to give my dual headlight set up and flush mounts a go, even though they are not DOT. I do not know how sticky the inspection is on that.
First is all the other crap still waiting in the garage! I got parts today and should have the KZ1000 on the road tomorrow. Swapped out the 26 mechanicals for a set of 34 CV's and it caused fitment problems I had not read about anywhere. Not to mention the electronic ignition I swapped on to it. It is always somthing!
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I almost built a set of wheels with stock hubs but it wasn't that much more to get a full set already done.
If it was winter I would have built my own.... But with summer here, I just don't have the time...
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To finish the basics I still need my frame guards, fork guards, radiator screens, decals, tires, tool bag, fork springs, shock spring, and something cool to hold extra premix....
And of course suggestions are always appreciated :lol:
Once that is done I'll start playing with my engine mods.... One at a time..
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Current jetting.
carb: 41mm
Pilot 52
Main 170
Needle DGH 3rd position
Slide 7
Still seems a bit rich so I'll be working on that a bit.
Although it's really picking up the top end... and the front wheel.... :lol:
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Tires won't be here till next week... :(
Oh well, I can still ride I just hate knobbie slides :D
I need to figure out how to carry some premix oil.
I like this idea:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1050)
Anybody have some good idea's?
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http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/2-stroke/saber-professional/?code=ATPPK-EA
They have a 1.5 oz pack that I would mix with one gallon. Pre-measured just squeeze it out. Keep a few in a zip lock in your back pack. People get weird about the 100-1 mix ratio. I ran it for years in 5 different machines some with powervalves and it is great stuff!
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100:1 Wow!
I was a little nervous about 50:1 :lol:
I'm sure it works fine.
But for now I'll stick with Motul 800.
I could get all manner of containers for whatever ratio I want to run and throw them in a back pack.
But, I would like to have some cool mount/container design so that I don't need a back pack.
I'm sure that there must be some sort of cool helicopter part that would help me out :-D
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well, let me know what kind of container and we can see what kind of aircraft grade holder we can come up with.
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Sweet.
I have no idea what but I'll think of something.
Going to Florence tomorrow to get some temps on the sand bike.... :lol:
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The tires came in today.
I still haven't seen them yet as I have been so busy...
They will be on the bike tomorrow.
Then I'm taking two days off work so I can tear them up.. :lol:
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The tires came in today.
I still haven't seen them yet as I have been so busy...
They will be on the bike tomorrow.
Then I'm taking two days off work so I can tear them up.. :lol:
What kind?
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I'll know tomorrow.... :lol:
They are some low track time super sticky take offs... Dunlops...
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Well.... I was way off.
How about some Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa's.
Front 120/70 ZR17
Rear 160/60 ZR17
I know... The rear will rub...
I didn't want a 160 in the rear, I wanted a 150.
My tire guy said he couldn't get what I wanted in a 150... (Cheap but awesome, actually trade)
I measured it at 155mm.
I measured what is on my bike right now and it is very close.
I guess we'll see when I get it mounted.
Unfortunately it won't be till next week as too much is happening right now..
These were mounted on a bike that took a couple of laps.
Still tons of life left :-)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1060)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1061)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1062)
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Look good! Look sticky too!
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dang. you buddys no joke.. AINT no chicken strips on those tires.
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I hope nobody minds a little shameless advertising.... But my friends at http://www.procycle.us/ (http://www.procycle.us/) are good guys to do business with :-D
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Home refi is FINALLY done. Got 3.38%. Cool. KZ1000 is finished and sold it a week later because I could not ride it without acting like a hooligan... just a ticket or accident waiting to happen. Was fun though! Mikuni CV34's really woke it up! Hope I behave better with the KX when it is done. Yeah, right! Going to make the call to ProCycle and set up/buy the off road kit and send my hubs down to have the wheels put on. I'll tell them you sent me. Probably charge me double! Talked to them early this year but have not since. Got a KZ1100 shaft drive parts bike to get rid of to clear some more room. Sold the KZ1000 and my GT750 last week. Made a dent in the garage clutter! Crap! Just looked it up here and it was a year ago I called them! Geez! Time flies when you are having fun!
(http://i42.tinypic.com/177g50.jpg)
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You ever get your seat height measured with the new wheels? Still got the stock dogbones? Can't decide on wheel color so have to make a list with options and think about it. Confirmed NONE of my spares will work as no DOT on any of it. Well, unless I strip all the HUGE stuff off of the donor KZ1100 to get it done, then redo it all with my cooler non DOT stuff... Rather just do it once me thinks. Checking on the brake lines also. Sucks. Speaking of, what did you end up using for the light switch? The 'Compact' pressure switch from ProCycle looks like the best option?
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Nice work on the bikes....
I have not put the wheels on yet.... I've been on too many emergency rides :-D
Going again this weekend so I may not get that info till next week.
I have the stock dog bones on this one.
Let me go measure a few things and I'll get you a rough measurement.
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Approximately 39 1/4".
They will only lower it a bit... 1/4" roughly.
I'll get precise numbers when I get the wheels on.
Getting my Sand bike and my kids new bike ready for this weekend or I would have it done...
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Started playing with the rear wheel fitment...
It's tight..... I'm going to switch to a non O-ring chain...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1074)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1075)
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my black side panels would look sweet too!!!!!!
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I looked hard at those but there just not the style I wanted :-o
I have cut my right side cover to match the exhaust lines.... I need to make the left one match... 8-)
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Ok, After getting the wheels on the bike I measured the highest part of the seat at 38.5".
The lowest part of the seat is at 35.5".
Taking it for my first ride with the new tires on it... :-o
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Simply Ridiculous 8-)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1089)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1090)
Obviously I still have a lot of work to do and I'm still testing bits and pieces not to mention the engine build I have going on... But.... It is sure fun..
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Tire pressure..
Here's what I am running.
Front Cold 32lb.
Rear Cold 30lb.
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Looks very cool! It only shortened it an inch?!?!?! I would have expected at least a couple. Bummer. I will have to think about this some. I suppose the front road tire is larger even though the rim is smaller. Interesting. Wife has hinted at dumping all the project bikes/old bikes a couple times and me buying a couple newer nice ones that I do not have to modify or fix and just keep them. I will admit it gets more tempting as time goes on. It has been an obsession to make the old ones 'live' again, I will admit.
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Looks like a wonderful way to loose a license.
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Looks very cool! It only shortened it an inch?!?!?! I would have expected at least a couple. Bummer. I will have to think about this some. I suppose the front road tire is larger even though the rim is smaller. Interesting. Wife has hinted at dumping all the project bikes/old bikes a couple times and me buying a couple newer nice ones that I do not have to modify or fix and just keep them. I will admit it gets more tempting as time goes on. It has been an obsession to make the old ones 'live' again, I will admit.
Thankfully my wife has 3 horses and can't say a word about my bike spending habits...
Besides, what she doesn't know about.... :roll:
Looks like a wonderful way to loose a license.
Just have to use good judgement and throttle control :mrgreen:
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It isn't the money. Shoot, we spent $10K on one of her dogs and it only lasted a year and a half. :-o She really is fine with the money part. Plus, it has been a while since I lost money on one. I keep track now! :wink: It is the time and shop mess and having 'ugly' bikes sitting around. At least until I get them painted! Mostly it is the time spent working on them. She probably gets tired of hearing about all the broken and crappy parts I feel the need to repair also. Since she saw 'her' bike and her 'track' bike go together and helped with them a bit she understands a little more how it all works. I think part of it is I put all the work in on them and then sell. Usually within a year of them being finished, but some are quicker. She will probably have 'her' bikes for many years. I think that is why she claimed a few, to keep me from selling them off! I would have too! :lol:
We had a horse some years back that finally died (30+ years old) but we both liked having him around. Really nice horse too. :cry:
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Simply Ridiculous 8-)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1089)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1090)
Obviously I still have a lot of work to do and I'm still testing bits and pieces not to mention the engine build I have going on... But.... It is sure fun..
That chain looks a bit tight
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The chain is too tight.
My new chain will be in early next week.
I will adjust it so that the rear wheel is as far back as it can go with the correct tension.
It would be nice to have a swing arm that is a few inches longer then stock... :-)
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A little trim, a little shim, and on it goes...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1092)
Since I installed this wheel and tire combo I need to get the correct length figured out.
I'm guessing I'll have to remove about 1/2 to 1" but I don't know yet...
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The chain is too tight.
My new chain will be in early next week.
I will adjust it so that the rear wheel is as far back as it can go with the correct tension.
It would be nice to have a swing arm that is a few inches longer then stock... :-)
A swingarm longer than stock?
supermotos usual go shorter in the swingarm
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I'm sure that is true. But then again i'm not racing except stop light to stop light so I just want to keep the front end down :lol:
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Sure looks shorter then just an inch? Sorry, just can't get over that it only dropped it an inch! AN INCH?!?!? What the?!?! :? Hope to get rid of the KZ1100 tomorrow. :-D That opens up a BIG hole in the garage. Getting closer to working on the KX5. Still can not decide on wheel color though. Only one motorcycle (big) job to finish before it is up to bat again. :-P An inch?!?!?
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It's amazing what a inch of seat height does. When I sit on it, it feels like a low rider :-o
You should come on up and take it for a spin.
Wheel color, why worry, rattle cans are cheap :evil:
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I was asked how I got the frame guard and the stand to work together since one interferes with the other.
First, I temporarily mounted the guard on the frame.
Then I took the stand, laid it against the guard and marked the guard.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1081)
Then I cut out the section that was interfering from the frame guard (Didn't do the best cut on it).
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1082)
That left a small piece of aluminum left from the guard.
I used that small piece as a shim for the stand and mounted it using the bolts provided.
Yes, I drilled a hole through that small piece so it mounts flush with no wiggling around..
Thanks goes to those who gave me info or tried to get info about the best way to do this (Motorrad, Alward25)..
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(Didn't do the best cut on it).
not the best cut?....d**n...looks like it was meant to be there in the pic on the previous page....better than I'd probably do.
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It will work but I could have done better...
Ordered a non o-ring chain today.
It should help reduce tire wear :lol:
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Lots of HP to be found or lost in a O-ring chain
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What do you recommend?
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Now I can stop... :lol:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1108)
Motorrad, any recommendations on the chain?
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Motorrad, any recommendations on the chain?
Yup
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Motorrad, any recommendations on the chain?
Yup
Sweet, what will it cost me?
I have a nice piston to trade...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=746)
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No good?
How about a nice shift cam arm?
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1098)
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Hmmmm..... Free candy?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/Ultimacy/candyvan.jpg)
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DID claims to have the lowest friction..
http://www.didchain.com/enduroChains.html (http://www.didchain.com/enduroChains.html)
Others make the same claim on the DID:
http://sprocketcenter.com/index.php/d-i-d-520erv3-heavy-duty-gold-x-ring-race-chain.html (http://sprocketcenter.com/index.php/d-i-d-520erv3-heavy-duty-gold-x-ring-race-chain.html)
Some other unnamed forums suggest the same.
What does Motorrad say?
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I used sprocket center for everything. Their prices are though to beat and great customer service.
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Thinking about making a sprocket spacer such as was done by Motorrad...
But, I'm limited for machine tools...
So, I will have to go the poor man route :-(
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1109)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1110)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1111)
I may actually have to have it surface ground to the correct thickness but this will give me a start...
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I like mine better...
X-ring
Or if you want true unlimited HP.
Non o-ring "diamond" chain. Being your on street with this bike... May want to consider it
Also. Power to be found in chain lube ;)
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Thank you.
X-ring makes sense, less contact area, higher lubricity.
Chain lube.....
Yeah, I'll buy that.
What is your favorite for your X ring?
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Ah! Royal Purple Gear oil....
Must be good stuff.
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Ah! Royal Purple Gear oil....
Must be good stuff.
Did you find my method of application?
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If you move the rear sprocket out how do you adjust the front sprocket?
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Ah! Royal Purple Gear oil....
Must be good stuff.
Did you find my method of application?
Yep :lol:
Did you want me to post it?
If you move the rear sprocket out how do you adjust the front sprocket?
You don't.
From everything I have read it's not enough to cause any problems.
I'm looking about .080" for the shim, not 1/4" as you see in the pics I posted..
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Any place that "grinds" flywheels should be able to fixture that sprocket & grind it thinner. Take the bolts or a whole sprocket would be easier to hold. Also I got an 86 or 87 sprocket awhile back & it didnt have the taper for the bolt head, I dont know if it was a fluke or not but ...
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Good to know.
Across the street from my shop is a machine shop I worked at for 12 years.
The surface grinder owes me a favor :-)
I was going to make the fixture for holding the sprocket today..
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Good to know.
Across the street from my shop is a machine shop I worked at for 12 years.
The surface grinder owes me a favor :-)
I was going to make the fixture for holding the sprocket today..
I'd be surprised if the would do it.. The shop I grew up in wouldn't... Alum dorks up the $$$ grinder wheel..
Now. Go get a steel sprocket. It may be differant
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They have a couple of different wheels for grinding aluminum...
They use to do aluminum surface plates and straight edges so I know they still have the wheels or pads depending on the grinder they use.
But, I may not go this route at all...
Still looking at the possibilities.
I thought about using a steel sprocket because I wouldn't have to make a fixture :-)
But, steel is harder for me to work with.
I looked around on your build thread last night Motorrad.
I didn't see a pic of your spacer for the sprocket.
Do you have a pic, or can you describe what you did?
Thanks!
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(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1127)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1128)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1129)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1130)
The guy who operates the surface grinders isn't at the shop today so I don't know which wheel is which.
I know they have diamond, aluminum oxide, and Silicon carbide wheels.
I think they use the Silicon carbide for aluminum.
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Neat old surface grinder! I ran a smaller one years ago. Was fun, for a job. Used a Shaper for a while as well. More brutal, but it would cut keyways (straight) as well as surface. I bet Motorrad was tempted on the piston. He probably does not have many that look like that! :wink: Probably worse!
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I bet Motorrad was tempted on the piston. He probably does not have many that look like that! :wink: Probably worse!
:evil: :evil: :evil:
New chain and moved the axle as far back as I could with the sprockets I am running.
It does make a small difference in unintended wheelies :D
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1131)
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Had a little adventure today...
After I installed my new chain I took it for a couple of short rides.
Since I just installed the wheels I haven't really had an opportunity to start pushing them.
Today was the first time I leaned it far enough over to the left and right where I really felt I was getting close to the edge.
In a nice left hand turn about 45 mph I starting loosing it :o
Lucky for me my butt puckered just enough to get the bike upright to get it off the edge and I rode out of it.
Felt like I was trying to flat track for a moment.
When I got back to the shop I took a look at the tire and found black greasy stuff on the edge of the tire...
Guess what it was?
Oh yeah, remember that new chain I put on?
It had a heavy amount of lube on it.
I didn't both wiping it off.
Since the tire rubs just a wee bit on the chain it got covered in chain lube.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1132)
You can bet that I will finish my spacer and get it installed and keep the chain lube off my tire :-o
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that's one way to learn how to "Drift" a motorcycle :lol:
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O man I got the pucker just reading that
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that's one way to learn how to "Drift" a motorcycle :lol:
I wouldn't recommend it but hey if that works who am I to argue with it.. :lol:
O man I got the pucker just reading that
I'm over it now that I dug out my self inflicted wedgie and changed my tightie whities :-D
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After removing 2 1/16" from the side stand you can see that it is just about right :D
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1165)
Lean angle.... Perfect...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1166)
Tomorrow I'll take it to the welder and get it finished...
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Shall we compare welds after?
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Dimes against doodoo? RIGHT :lol:
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I told PMB it was too long but they insisted it was just right. for you on your bike it must have been super long.
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Your right.
When I had the stock wheels on the bike the stand worked but the bike had to be on flat ground and it was very tippy.
If PMB made it about 1/4 to 1/2" shorter it would be a LOT better for a stock bike.
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Next door having my buddy Trav doing some welding.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1169)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1170)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1171)
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Should have grounded closer to the weld, (on the kickstand) so the current didnt have to run through the frame. (CDI's and such).
Here is mine. Im NOT a row of dimes tig welder, I tend to just run a bead... Has MANY miles on it now, so its dirty, scratched etc. weld was never touched with anything more than a wire brush, (and now some rocks, sand, brush).. the 2 lumps are due to kicking the breaker on the welder. had to crank her up to more than the wall liked
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/DSCN1770_zps56947179.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/Motorrad/media/DSCN1770_zps56947179.jpg.html)
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Should have grounded closer to the weld, (on the kickstand) so the current didnt have to run through the frame. (CDI's and such).
Yep, I agree... In fact this was my fault as I was too lazy to pull it off the bike :roll:
Here is mine. Im NOT a row of dimes tig welder, I tend to just run a bead... Has MANY miles on it now, so its dirty, scratched etc. weld was never touched with anything more than a wire brush, (and now some rocks, sand, brush).. the 2 lumps are due to kicking the breaker on the welder. had to crank her up to more than the wall liked
Well..... I'll see how it looks tomorrow up close.... Then I'll decide if I can post the results... :-)
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Here is the spacer I made for the rear wheel....
The finish thickness is .120"
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1172)
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Installed...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1173)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1174)
No clearance issues now.
I probably have .015" clearance between the tire and the chain.
I'll be watching the sprocket bolts very carefully to make sure there is no problem with them coming loose.
Yes, I used thread locker and torqued them but better to be safe them hash browns on the highway... :o
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I know .120 doesn't seem like much, but how is the alignment between the front and rear sprockets now? I would be worried about premature sprocket wear.
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I know .120 doesn't seem like much, but how is the alignment between the front and rear sprockets now? I would be worried about premature sprocket wear.
Honestly I can't even tell a difference..... yet...
If it starts becoming a issue I can remove the spacer and let the tire rub.
It doesn't rub as bad as my last SM bike even without the spacer and it was never a problem on that bike.
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Should have grounded closer to the weld, (on the kickstand) so the current didnt have to run through the frame. (CDI's and such).
Current will take the path of less resistance, no harm done to his cdi and such eletrical equipment. Current isnt going to take a jog up around the chassis when it can take a 14 inch hop (or ever how far it is to the weld) over to the weld to complete the circuit. Different story if the current has to pass directly through or across your frame grounds. Then yah, possible. I agree though typically you ground as close as possible. Im amazed at what you lads are doing with these k5's. Im not a dirt bike guy but a kawasaki tecate 4 guy. I use kx250 top ends and use the k5 hinson billet basket swap over with the T4 back gears.
Any how just my 2 cents on the welding concerns
Here is mine. Im NOT a row of dimes tig welder, I tend to just run a bead... Has MANY miles on it now, so its dirty, scratched etc. weld was never touched with anything more than a wire brush, (and now some rocks, sand, brush).. the 2 lumps are due to kicking the breaker on the welder. had to crank her up to more than the wall liked
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/Motorrad/DSCN1770_zps56947179.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/Motorrad/media/DSCN1770_zps56947179.jpg.html)
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Hey Dirk, opinions are always appreciated.
The welding didn't hurt anything but it's always a possibility...
I guess it's a good thing I have a complete MZB ignition on the way 8-)
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Hey Dirk, opinions are always appreciated.
The welding didn't hurt anything but it's always a possibility...
I guess it's a good thing I have a complete MZB ignition on the way 8-)
Which flywheel did you get?
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Hey Dirk, opinions are always appreciated.
The welding didn't hurt anything but it's always a possibility...
I guess it's a good thing I have a complete MZB ignition on the way 8-)
Which flywheel did you get?
The holy bike on crack one!!!!!!
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24oz :-D
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24oz :-D
I like my "holy bike on crack" one
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Then I should be happy.. :lol:
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I had to make a adapter for my degree wheel.
Since I don't have a lathe, I decided to use a old fly wheel.
I didn't want to ruin a KX500 fly wheel so I used one from a 99 KX125.
As it turns out they are exactly the same shaft size.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1191)
I ground off the rivets...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1194)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1192)
Did a test fit on the shaft to make sure nothing had changed...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1197)
Carefully drilled the holes to maintain alignment..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1195)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1196)
It bolted up and worked perfect....
Now I need to make the pointer for the degree wheel...
Where's the welding rod ?
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Sweet
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I looked at my bike today... then walked away...
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I looked at my bike today... then walked away...
been doing that for about a month and a half now.
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I looked at my bike today... then walked away...
been doing that for about a month and a half now.
Both of you eat Toads, least it aint still in a bucket. Get out & ride that :mrgreen:
I got reed's on the way & I think the welding "might" be done on the jug. The rest is $$$, & you 2 are just looking at yours :cry:
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Toads are tasty...
In fact, served up with some wild rice and a nice Pinot Noir can be quite a good meal :-P
Yes, that means I'm sticking my tongue out at you :-D
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all I need to do is go kick mine and ride it.
on the bench work wise.
oscars motor
Big Wp impeller mod
reverse cooling.
Umm.. I know there was one other thign I was workign on. what was it?
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Well then, drive that puppy up here so we can race for pinks.... (steaks that are cooked medium)...
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Well then, drive that puppy up here so we can race for pinks.... (steaks that are cooked medium)...
Man. That's a high STEAKS race.. Badom ch
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Well then, drive that puppy up here so we can race for pinks.... (steaks that are cooked medium)...
Man. That's a high STEAKS race.. Badom ch
MMmmm STEAKS and beer
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/2cjpolatis/Snapbucket/IMG_20130820_204815_719_zps1fdf9880.jpg)
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Well then, drive that puppy up here so we can race for pinks.... (steaks that are cooked medium)...
Man. That's a high STEAKS race.. Badom ch
MMmmm STEAKS and beer
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/2cjpolatis/Snapbucket/IMG_20130820_204815_719_zps1fdf9880.jpg)
with beer like that. screw the steaks.
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Umm.. I know there was one other thign I was workign on. what was it?
Piston window timing, wasnt it?
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Umm.. I know there was one other thign I was workign on. what was it?
Piston window timing, wasnt it?
Yes that was it. Anyone have some extra junk pistons I can carveup
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Yes that was it. Anyone have some extra junk pistons I can carveup
I'll check...
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I have 1. Pm your address and I'll get it out tonight.
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I went over to my SM, looked at it, turned away, and walked over to my special shelf reserved for special KX500 parts....
I pulled down the box with my MZB stuff, opened it, and pulled out all the pieces.
I carefully unwrapped all the pieces and unfolded the directions.
I then took pics of everything... no biggie, you've seen it all before.
Was gonna post them anyway but my web host is having problems and I couldn't upload without a crash :x
So, nothing new to post...
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Here is what all came in the box with my MZB ignition..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1198)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1199)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1200)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1201)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1203)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1204)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1205)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1206)
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huh. things changed
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I wondered if they had.
I know Alward25 said they were making some changes a while back..
I don't remember the specifics...
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New reg/rec and coating on the stator. Looks great!!!
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I took the SM for a few cruises this weekend.
After eating up a few less desirable (Harleys... Don't know why I bother but it's fun) I finally got to do some stop light to stop light action with a 2012 zx600rr.
It became clear that I could launch harder... every time.
Could be that years of dirt riding gave me a edge or he was just a bad rider...
Never made it to the freeway or it would have been over with quick.
But I'd like to see at what point I get my side covers blown off...
Any takers in the Eugene OR area?
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[quote
Any takers in the Eugene OR area?
[/quote]
I'm over here in NV with a plated ktm 530 I wouldn't mind lining up with you lol, every bike feels fast to me until your next to a K5 ha :lol:
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[quote
Any takers in the Eugene OR area?
I'm over here in NV with a plated ktm 530 I wouldn't mind lining up with you lol, every bike feels fast to me until your next to a K5 ha :lol:
[/quote]
Hmm.. tempting....
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Get them up here and regardless of the outcome I'll buy lunch :lol:
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Playing with Gearing Commander today.
With my current set up at WOT in 4th gear I hit 81mph, not hunched over, by satellite.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1287)
I think that is about right for a basically stock engine..
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That is fast for a kx bike
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I need to get it out somewhere in 5th and wind the springs out of it just to see where I'm at...
Then I will work on making it faster :evil:
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Took the tard out for a spin on Saturday afternoon.
At 48 degrees F out I admit that it wasn't the best day but I was itchin to get it out and blow the cob webs off it.
After I warmed it up I took it up to 100 mph and backed off.
Man this thing is running good.
Do you know how cold it is a 100 mph when it is 48 degrees F out?
The good thing was it didn't take long to get there and with my current gearing I know it has a little more to give.
The funny thing is, it's never fast enough :shock:
So it's time to get going with this engine and start assembling it.
Once I get the bottom end assembled then I can degree wheel it and finish my final port set up, machine the cylinder to it's correct height, then it's off to plating.
Then at some point I still have to get my suspension done.
It would be nice to have all that buttoned up by this Spring but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Watch your jetting. That cold weather will make you pull a usmc
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Do you know how cold it is a 100 mph when it is 48 degrees F out?
that's warm compared to rippin across Moosehead Lake in Maine at a 110mph in a cool -25 below zero on a sunny mid February afternoon.
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Watch your jetting. That cold weather will make you pull a usmc
Your right.
As good as it was running I was a bit worried about that.
Wheeeeeeee!!!!!!! Dooooaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!
that's warm compared to rippin across Moosehead Lake in Maine at a 110mph in a cool -25 below zero on a sunny mid February afternoon.
I wouldn't say I couldn't do it.
But I will say that I don't want to.
Then again, wearing MX gloves and a non insulated flannel weren't helping too much...
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Watch your jetting. That cold weather will make you pull a usmc
I'm just never gonna live this down am I???..........you guys all suck and I rock because I still look cool sitting on a blown up motorcycle so blah!!! :-D
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Watch your jetting. That cold weather will make you pull a usmc
I'm just never gonna live this down am I???..........you guys all suck and I rock because I still look cool sitting on a blown up motorcycle so blah!!! :-D
If it was any other motor you could live it down. But it was a m motor
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Could not sleep so I got up and read this entire thread again. Fun! Bought a couple more motorcycles since my last post here (2002 Suzuki SV650S and new "0" mile 2012 Suzuki VStrom 1000 Adventure) and put 12 T-8 light fixtures in the garage/shop. It glows now! Got rid of a couple other things so am ready to order parts for the KX5. Made a list for ProCycle. The vid of Oscar's bike and a couple other K5 vids got me cranked up. Just realized I have not started the K5 in a year. Geez!
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It's time to get on it...
It always puts a smile on my face :-D
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It's time to get on it...
It always puts a smile on my face :-D
without smile it is no fun...and finally the bike is so incredible fast, that the man of steele could ride back in the time to planet crypton... :-D
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I want me a bike like that.
trade for some candy?
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I hope nobody minds a little shameless advertising.... But my friends at http://www.procycle.us/ (http://www.procycle.us/) are good guys to do business with :-D
Funny thing. I mentioned your name and everything cost me double!?!?! :-o
Well, went and did it now. Ordered all the stuff from ProCycle ($$$) and have the hubs boxed to ship to them sitting beside me. No going back now! Black Sun rims, black headlight, bendable turn signals. Conti tires. Shorai battery. 320mm rotor. Getting wood! This should be fun! Dangerous, but fun.
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I hope nobody minds a little shameless advertising.... But my friends at http://www.procycle.us/ (http://www.procycle.us/) are good guys to do business with :-D
Funny thing. I mentioned your name and everything cost me double!?!?! :-o
Of course, kick backs build empires 8-)
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I hope nobody minds a little shameless advertising.... But my friends at http://www.procycle.us/ (http://www.procycle.us/) are good guys to do business with :-D
Funny thing. I mentioned your name and everything cost me double!?!?! :-o
Well, went and did it now. Ordered all the stuff from ProCycle ($$$) and have the hubs boxed to ship to them sitting beside me. No going back now! Black Sun rims, black headlight, bendable turn signals. Conti tires. Shorai battery. 320mm rotor. Getting wood! This should be fun! Dangerous, but fun.
I lace and true wheels, so ya know
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sandblaster, are you running the 15/40 gearing? Any issues?
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I was running a 15 40 with stock wheels 19" rear and 21" front using knobs but right now I'm running a 15 44 on my 17's.
No problems with either.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1287)
It seems to pull the current configuration really well but I have not had the opportunity to see exactly what it will do in 5th WOT.
My guess is about 95-98.
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1 was 15-42 on my 17's with overdrive 5th
Will be going taller now that overdrive is on the bench and not in the bike
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I can't wait till you get it done so I can see how fast it will go for you. :-D
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Why did you pull the OD?
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Was just reading around and found the 'sort of' answer. More of 'a picture sez a thousand words' type thing.
I have been to El Mirage during runs and when there was not a single soul out. Fun stuff. Took my rental car out and topped it out! Got boring as it had a rev (speed) limiter on it.
Ordered MORE stuff for my KX5 today. Need to dig it out and get it on the lift so I am ready for the parts when they get here.
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Post pics when you can
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Will do. Ordered new sprockets and chain today. Went with 15/43 as they were out of the 42's. Should take the dimensions up to Hinshaws Honda as they have a box of miscellaneous sprockets on the floor for $5 each. I have resisted making an offer on all of them. Do not need more crap laying around and do not need any sprockets other than for the KX5.
Got a bunch for free years ago at another Honda dealer as they had just purged and tossed them into the metal bin. They let me dig around in them and I ended up with four gear changes for the bike I was building for a friend. Now that I think about it, I should take them up and see if I can match them up. They are cheap!
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Yep, I have piles of sprockets... Most I have no idea what they came off of.
But it gives customers something to dig through :lol:
5 bucks each? That's highway robbery... 8-)
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Was going to hit the shop, get the KX5 on the lift, spread all the nice parts (minus the wheels and tires which I have not received yet) around it and take a pic before getting started on it.
Got side tracked when a younger girlfriend :-P of my wife's called and wanted me to teach her how to weld and do a project. Priorities, you know! :roll: 'Twas fun! Project took all day though. She is quite sharp and did all of the cutting and welding. Got to love the bottled wire feed and plasma cutter! She decided rather then buy her own stuff she would just come over and use my shop and equipment.
Hey! Maybe she will bring some of her other young lady friends over and 'sweat to the welding' next time! I could do a calendar with the KX5 as a backdrop! :evil:
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I'll take a calendar for the shop :-)
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All done. Well, almost. Ok, not at all. Looks like the last of the parts got here. It's Christmas! Think I blew the toy fund for the next couple years. Wait. a screaming deal on a 44 mag?!?! CRAP! Ahhh, it's only money!(http://i58.tinypic.com/23itrx5.jpg)
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I like what I'm seeing :-)
44 mag? Good deal? Buy it :-D
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Already did! 9.5" Stainless Ruger Super Redhawk. Less then 300 rounds through it. Buddy bought it new. Will be a good addition to the 7.5 one in 480 I have.
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:-D
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The weather got above 50 degrees and it wasn't raining today.
So after about 2 months of not starting the SM I kicked it about 20 times before it finally started :x
I let it warm up jumped on and rode it for about 10 minutes to get it warmed up.
I brought it back to the house and let my 70 year old Dad take it for a spin.
After about 20 minutes he shows up at the house and parks the bike.
No comments, no nothing.
I was a little disappointed.
Anyway... I had some buddies over and we had BBQ carne asada tacos, Corona, and Knob Creek Whiskey (Thanks for the suggestion Motorrad) for dinner.
Sitting around a nice warm fire my Dad asks, how fast will it go in 4th gear pinned.
I said a little over 90.
And then I asked, Did you go that fast?
He said yes.
I asked "where?"
Then he told me.... It is in a 45 mph zone :-o
I hope when I hit 70 years old I will still hit 90mph in a 45mph residential zone.
But like my Dad said, "it peaks in 4th so fast that it only took a block to go that fast" :-D
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The weather got above 50 degrees and it wasn't raining today.
So after about 2 months of not starting the SM I kicked it about 20 times before it finally started :x
I let it warm up jumped on and rode it for about 10 minutes to get it warmed up.
I brought it back to the house and let my 70 year old Dad take it for a spin.
After about 20 minutes he shows up at the house and parks the bike.
No comments, no nothing.
I was a little disappointed.
Anyway... I had some buddies over and we had BBQ carne asada tacos, Corona, and Knob Creek Whiskey (Thanks for the suggestion Motorrad) for dinner.
Sitting around a nice warm fire my Dad asks, how fast will it go in 4th gear pinned.
I said a little over 90.
And then I asked, Did you go that fast?
He said yes.
I asked "where?"
Then he told me.... It is in a 45 mph zone :-o
I hope when I hit 70 years old I will still hit 90mph in a 45mph residential zone.
But like my Dad said, "it peaks in 4th so fast that it only took a block to go that fast" :-D
Thats awesome. I hope I still have the balls to throw a leg over at 70
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Good for him! My Dad did a similar thing with a built 433 (427 + .030) in a '69 El Camino I stored with the folks in Montana. Only he scared the crap out of himself. I take it your Dad rode or rides quite a bit?
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Good for him! My Dad did a similar thing with a built 433 (427 + .030) in a '69 El Camino I stored with the folks in Montana. Only he scared the crap out of himself. I take it your Dad rode or rides quite a bit?
Yeah we get together and ride about every 2-3 months in the desert or dunes.
Of course he does ride in between but he is 4.5 hours away from me so we don't get to ride together as much as we would like.
Funny thing is he can still out wheelie me on his wr450 by a long shot :-o
It seems that I have a phobia of breaking rear fenders :-D
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My 63yr old pops still passes all my 20-30 something friends in the sandwashes. On a 1974 bike. Really pisses them off when they a are on their modern bikes
15-39 gearing and an overdrive 5th makes for a really good time on a sumo bike
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15-39 gearing and an overdrive 5th makes for a really good time on a sumo bike
I'm waiting to find out... :roll:
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Did you pick up the OD? Does it come with installation? :wink:
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Not yet, just waiting for Motorrad to stop fiddling around and buy a Maico 8-)
He won't sell the OD gears to me until he buys one... :x
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Next...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1671)
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My dad wont ride any of my bikes except the 250 ninja Lol He says everything else is too d**n fast and way too powerful especially the trencher (KX500) and CBR1000F :P I wish my dad would go riding with me.
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My Dad has always been like that, Bicycles, skateboards, surfing, wind surfing,cliff diving, motorcycles.... What ever we were into, Dad got into or drug us into :-D
At 70 we'll have to wait and see how much longer it lasts.. :cry:
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My dad wont ride any of my bikes except the 250 ninja Lol He says everything else is too d**n fast and way too powerful especially the trencher (KX500) and CBR1000F :P I wish my dad would go riding with me.
I have a 1987 cbr1000f that I restored. I love those bikes.
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My dad wont ride any of my bikes except the 250 ninja Lol He says everything else is too d**n fast and way too powerful especially the trencher (KX500) and CBR1000F :P I wish my dad would go riding with me.
I have a 1987 cbr1000f that I restored. I love those bikes.
I would love to see some pics. Only thing I don't like about mine is the front end is so heavy feeling.
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I would love to see some pics. Only thing I don't like about mine is the front end is so heavy feeling.
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I put in new springs and am pretty happy with the handling. Here's the bike when I got it. Was left outside for a few years
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p209/patmcgurrin/hurricane.jpg)
Taking it apart
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p209/patmcgurrin/100_4445.jpg)
Reassembly
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p209/patmcgurrin/roller.jpg)
And the way it sits now
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p209/patmcgurrin/packedup.jpg)
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That looks great! Lots of changes between your 87 and my 95 but I still see the resemblance.
(http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s517/ZiGoat79/IMG_20120731_210648_zpse9d66318.jpg) (http://s1055.photobucket.com/user/ZiGoat79/media/IMG_20120731_210648_zpse9d66318.jpg.html)
Sorry for cluttering your thread with big Hondas SB. Gotta have something posted in here :P
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Sorry for cluttering your thread with big Hondas SB. Gotta have something posted in here :P
Well, that stinks.... Just like your Honda :-P
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Who do you think hits 100 first. The fat old inline 4 or the mx geared kx500? Once the 1000 gets revved up it will move along nicely but I'm sure the 500 will launch a ton harder.
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Against my current configuration the 1000 should kill my 500 to 100mph.
0-90 I would give you a real good run.
But if your in the neighborhood I would love to test my theories :-)
Motorrad's current build should be able to start in 3rd and kill us both to 100.
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I was talking to a guy at work that used to race CR500's and mentioned I was putting my KX5 on the street. He stared at me open mouthed then laughed hysterically for a few seconds. After he got control he just said "That's insane!", shook his head and walked off. Funniest reaction I have had yet to the build.
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Against my current configuration the 1000 should kill my 500 to 100mph.
0-90 I would give you a real good run.
But if your in the neighborhood I would love to test my theories :-)
Motorrad's current build should be able to start in 3rd and kill us both to 100.
Seems like a road trip I have to make in the interest of science.
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The weather in nice today... It's suppose to get above 50F 8-)
Taking the SM for a ride to the shop and back (20 mi rd trip) just to be sure everything stays lubricated.. :mrgreen:
I love Science..
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Current temp 42 degrees, Humidity 69% (This is a free cooling mod)
9 miles of freeway followed by 1 mile of 45 mph riding water 101F, head 134F
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Against my current configuration the 1000 should kill my 500 to 100mph.
0-90 I would give you a real good run.
But if your in the neighborhood I would love to test my theories :-)
Motorrad's current build should be able to start in 3rd and kill us both to 100.
Seems like a road trip I have to make in the interest of science.
I've been wanting to take a trip like that. Just don't have that kind of time or even funds for that long of a trip. Maybe next summer.
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Was looking at the KX5 while working on the SuMo conversion. Pull it clear down and powder coat the frame, or get it together and running, then next winter pull it down (MAYBE) and then do the full meal deal.
I have a habit of getting projects working then later (or not) pulling them down and make 'em pretty.
Looking pretty cool with the stuff I bought already! Not sure adding a powder coat frame would add that much to it. Want to ride it this summer. Thoughts?
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Against my current configuration the 1000 should kill my 500 to 100mph.
0-90 I would give you a real good run.
But if your in the neighborhood I would love to test my theories :-)
Motorrad's current build should be able to start in 3rd and kill us both to 100.
Seems like a road trip I have to make in the interest of science.
I've been wanting to take a trip like that. Just don't have that kind of time or even funds for that long of a trip. Maybe next summer.
My last motor made many a street bike go hide with their tail between their legs stop light to stop light
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I guess it depends on how much you like taking your whole bike apart.
I don't enjoy it so I wish I had powder coated my frame before I built it.
So, it will be staying black for the foreseeable future :-)
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I guess it depends on how much you like taking your whole bike apart.
I don't enjoy it so I wish I had powder coated my frame before I built it.
So, it will be staying black for the foreseeable future :-)
it is powdercoated, sorry it is black :cry:
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It's not your fault :-P
In all honesty I thought it might look good.
But... I like Kawasaki Lime Green better...
So live and learn :-D
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green fenders might make it look meaner too. It will offset the black frame, go along with the green tank
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We'll see :-D
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Interesting... I was thinking black frame with the green fenders.
I guess part of the issue is if I pull it down I will leak test it and it will probably leak. Which means I should check it anyway. BUT, I do not want to. :-P It might create more work. :lol:
Once all the wires and 'stuff' is where I want it pulling it down to paint is not a huge issue for me. Except I am getting more of an aversion to work these days. Or at least creating more work for myself. Then again, I dusted off some of the vacuum forming stuff yesterday and made a plug for an angled drop in battery box insert to go inside of the air box. :-D Got to get some 2mm HIP plastic to see if it will form ok.
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Well start a thread and show us pics..
I can't wait to see it 8-)
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Got a text from my buddy with his 09 Aprilia rxv 550... He wanted a show down...
Ok, I'm up for that :D
He showed up a few minutes later.
So I go out to the garage and put on my right boot so I can start my bike.
It's been a few weeks so of course it took a few kicks to fire it up.
My buddy had the nerve to laugh at me while touching his e-start button :shock:
We took a nice warm up ride down to the river.
Spun around at the boat launch, cleared the corner, then cracked through the gears... Except 5th as there wasn't enough room...
Looked back as I was braking hard for the corner and I saw a faded little light way back there :D
Man I love my bike...
After swinging by another buddy's house we traded bikes.
The RXV is a good bike with all the niceties.
Smooth power delivery and decent handling considering it has the stock nobbies on it.
It's everything I would expect from such a bike.
Which is why I ride something a little more unconventional 8-)
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I'll race you both for pinks
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My title isn't pink.... :-P
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I'll race you both for pinks
right this second? I will be right over :lol:
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Well start a thread and show us pics..
I can't wait to see it 8-)
Hmmm. I would be afraid that every time I tried to post I would get a "This thread is old, consider starting a new one" I am taking so long getting things done. :lol:
Got in a couple good hours on it today as well as getting the plug for the battery box mold put together. If it does not form out good I will cover it with strapping tape and fiberglass one. Probably should have done that anyway. Would have been done by now... :-P
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Well at least get us some pics.
Some of us don't read too well but we love looking at pics :wink:
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All new bearings, snap rings, seals, and gaskets.
Getting it all organized.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1761)
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Off with all those nasty old snap rings...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1762)
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Bad snap ring... BAD. Sit snap ring. Sit. Stay. Stay. Good snapring.
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It was amazing how worn some of the snap rings were....
Glad to be rid of them...
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New snap rings installed...
What a pain... but worth the peace of mind
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1763)
Crank in the freezer..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1764)
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All new bearings and seals.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1765)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1766)
1 case half ready for assembly..
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Lookin' good! :-)
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Getting close. Those snap rings were miserable to get out on mine as well.
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Once I did the first one the rest were a lot easier.
Still wasn't fun but oh well :-D
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New snap rings installed.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1763)
Crank in the freezer.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1764)
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Installing all new bearings and seals..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1765)
1 case half ready for assembly
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1766)
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Dropped in the trans shafts
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1780)
Dropped in the shift drum, then the forks and alignment pins.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1781)
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Stainless Steel bolts require Never Seize if you want to remove them at a later date
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1782)
Looks like a Easy Bake Oven but those aren't cookies baking
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1783)
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Popped the crank out of the freezer and into the right case... clunk...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1784)
Hurry up and get that other side on before the crank warms up...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1785)
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No seal between the cases? Just lapped surfaces? Looks great!
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No gasket, just lapped to perfection thanks to the Timesaver and Motorrad's instructions, and a little sealer.
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Was thinking about the temp gauge and will ask:
You have two temp gauges, one water, one under plug. I have the Vapor and was thinking I should order the under plug pigtail and just run that. Not sure having both really gives any more information then just running the under plug one. Thoughts? :?
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Sure, the head runs hotter.
Typically about 20-25 degrees once it's up to temp.
My next build will have both and I'd like to add EGT.
But I'm a sucker for cool looking gauges :-D
Also consider that I have been playing with cooling mods and I'm trying to document stock vs modded.
Reverse flow, parallel cooling will be the big one making more gauges even more important.
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Runs hotter and reacts faster to jet changes, though I doubt the new oil :wink: at 50/1 will require a jet change. Think I will order the under plug for my all stock bike. :-D Keep it cleaner. Thanks!
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Special delivery received today
Wossner P2039 fits kx500 85-04
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1786)
Thanks Alex
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Just put that same rod in the sumo I'm building :-D
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will this be the 1st time you've tried the Wossner rod kit?
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This will be the first time I have used it.
I have a IMS Pro in the engine I am building right now.
This rod will go in my next engine that will be slightly more modded then the engine I am building right now :-o
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cool, keep us posted on your thoughts about it...I have spare crank that I've been debating rebuilding using one of the Wossner kits too.
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cool, keep us posted on your thoughts about it...I have spare crank that I've been debating rebuilding using one of the Wossner kits too.
Since I have another IMS Pro rod in my special junk pile I will be doing a comparison..
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cool, keep us posted on your thoughts about it...I have spare crank that I've been debating rebuilding using one of the Wossner kits too.
Since I have another IMS Pro rod in my special junk pile I will be doing a comparison..
excellent :-D
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Just for grins I was doing some research on seal temperature specs so as not to over heat seals for crank installation.
After wandering aimlessly on Koyo, Timkin, SKF, and a few other websites, I ended up at youtube and watched some crank installation vids.
After watching people beating them on with hammers and using special crank installation tools, I decided to bug you guys...
What temp do you heat your bearings to when installing your cranks?
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In the motor shop we had a furnace that was running about 700 degrees nearly all the time. Pop the bearings in for 15-20 minutes. Otherwise we had torches and a couple nice presses and adapters for putting them on.
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Thanks Brute.
I read this thread when it was originally posted.
http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,8458.0.html (http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,8458.0.html)
I forgot about it till Motorrad reminded me of it.
If I read it correctly, the conclusion was is the seals for the 500 were a two part composite.
Viton being the part that makes contact with the crank and a standard material that makes up the rest, but ... what was that standard part made from?
Viton has a working temp from -15° to +400°F.
Knowing what the Standard material is would let us know what we could heat them too without any troubles.
So.... We may have to do some further testing...
Unless someone knows what that standard material is?
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Here's a link to my initial findings of the Wossner VS IMS pro Rods
http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=665 (http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=665)
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build faster!! lol.
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:lol:
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So, me and my buddy on his Aprilia 550 rxv went out for a little street action.
Through the city to some twisties... burning up some tires and having a great time.
Hit a small straight away, touched 100 then on the skids for a 15mph rightie tightie..
Man I love this bike..
Water temps.. Makin greasy ice cubes out the pipe :-o
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Went to install my 2 piece clutch cover today so I got the cover and cleaned it, rounded up my bearings, gaskets, and...... no seals!!!
(http://www.pathsofreturn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/homer1.jpg)
Oh well... it will give me some time to get some other projects done on it.
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where are the pics???
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No pictures. It never happened.
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You guys are right, it never happened.
I'm not gonna install it without new seals.
Every time I install something with a old seal... it more then likely will leak....
A new seal and some dielectric grease and they rarely leak.. Thanks for the heads up on that Motorrad 8-)
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My seals didn't come in but, something else good showed up today..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1849)
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Out with the old...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1852)
YES!!!!! STICKERS!!!!
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1853)
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(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1856)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1857)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1858)
Lot's of clean up is required...
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I like this part of the directions..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1860)
I have no idea what I'm doing but I never let that stop me :?
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I like this part of the directions..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1860)
I have no idea what I'm doing but I never let that stop me :?
My favorite answer I use all the time when I'm asked if I can fix something.
"I've never had one give me trouble before"
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Good one.
I'll keep that for later use 8-)
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After a bit of head scratching, a phone call to Race Tech, and this diagram:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1864)
I finally got the order and size of the shim stack for each stage of rebound and compression.
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you would not have had this problem if you had me do it :-D
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True, but what's the fun in that :-P
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So, I decided to put my two piece clutch cover on and start test riding it to make sure it will hold up for the long haul.
After thoroughly cleaning the inner clutch cover up, installing new bearings and seals, and installing the governor rod, governor, ect I tried to install it and discovered a problem.
The main KIPPS shaft was stuck.
I tried to move the shaft but it was really stuck.
I next pulled the pipe off and looking into the cylinder... Sure it was locked up but I couldn't see why?
So i pulled the cylinder off and now the lever works fine... WHAT????
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1865)
Nothing unusual here... Although it might be running a bit lean..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1866)
Over all, I'm happy with how everything looks so where is the problem?
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(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1867)
Again, nothing out of the ordinary..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1868)
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http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1869
Again, a little lean but no biggie..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1870)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1871)
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Then, I found the problem...
When I put a little pressure on this valve guide, the KIPPS stop moving.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1872)
I put a straight edge over the other valve guides and this is the only one sticking up about .002" above the surface of the cylinder base.
So, I grabbed a cylinder I've had sitting on the shelf for a while, put it on the engine and it works perfectly.
With my thoughts verified I decided to install the new cylinder, a new Wossner windowed piston, a new Larry modded head with compression release, and re-jet my carb.
Oh yeah, and install my 2 piece clutch cover...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1873)
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KIPPS move smoothly once the inner clutch cover is installed, Check
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1874)
Water pump impeller clearance mod... Check
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1875)
Everything bolted and torqued to factory specs, check.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1876)
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I should be able to start heat cycles tomorrow.. 8-)
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which cylinder is that?
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One you sold me last year or so..
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that had my "special" KIPS mod and love. Thats why it is so smooth. :wink:
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Yes... I like it 8-)
I just wish that I had cleaned up the bridges and transfers.... but that will give me a good excuse to finish my next engine :lol:
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Here is a pic of a KX450F Hammerhead shift lever installed on my KX500.
If you wear a bigger boot size you can order them in different lengths.
This one is 20mm longer then stock.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1882)
Yes, my engine is filthy dirty... :-P
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1st heat cycle done on the new top end.
Started 3rd kick using my tennis shoes.
Thanks Larry for the head work :-D
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Started 3rd kick using my tennis shoes.
kick it barefoot...ya sissy!! :lol:
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Started 3rd kick using my tennis shoes.
kick it barefoot...ya sissy!! :lol:
I can't tell you how much that doesn't hurt... :-D
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2nd heat cycle done.
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1st heat cycle done on the new top end.
Started 3rd kick using my tennis shoes.
Thanks Larry for the head work :-D
Try that with mine
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Bring it on up... I'll start it for you, then we can go riding and you can see why bikes run cooler up north 8-)
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Two heat cycles this morning.
Then I took two short rides about 2 hours apart.
Now I need to run a tank of gas all the way through it and I can see what it will do.
Hopefully everything is good so I can put my sand tires on it and ride at the dunes this weekend..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1883)
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haha...that thing just "screams" high speed!!
looks awesome :mrgreen:
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Motorrad hates my plastics :cry:
That's ok.... I don't really like them either.
I need to do something else now that all the basic mods are taken care of. 8-)
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the side plates, yeah...they're "different" and something to have to get used too...but everything else...the wheels/hubs, that silencer, polished swing-arm...yeah, I like it :-D
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Incidentally, I can't prove it yet but I'm pretty sure Motorrad's impeller clearance mod knocked about 10 degrees off my water temps, perhaps more.
When I put the bike back together I didn't have any 50/50 green stuff that I was running in it before so I used Engine ice.
I'll know more as I data log temps and switch back to the green stuff.
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Which mod? Porting? Shimming? Big impeller?
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Impeller clearance mod..
Add a extra washer behind the impeller... Decrease the impeller to cover clearance..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=491)
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Oh.... just remembered... I also used this mod as well..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1621)
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So, with the water pump clearance mod and enlarging the inlet side of the clutch cover, here is my temps for today.
70 deg F
42 percent humidity
Breaking in the new top end around town.
Highest head temp 204 deg F
Highest water temp 122 deg F
Average temps
Head 185 deg F
Water 115 deg F
Hmmm.... seems to big of a difference...
I'm taking it back to the shop to re-burp the head, rads, and impeller area just for insurance.
Here is as close as a comparison as I have recorded before:
Air temp 72F
Humidity 43%
Head: 158-162 F
Coolant: 133-138F
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Very tool limited at the house but I pulled the burp plug on the left rad and B.U.R.P!!!!
Yeah, back to the shop tomorrow to burp the head, rad, and water pump impeller area..
I bet that will cause the two temps to come back in line..
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Head.... B.E.L.C.H!!!!
Temps later today..
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Head.... B.E.L.C.H!!!!
Temps later today..
Yep that would make for funny readings
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78 deg
36% humidity
30-45 mph around town.
Highest head temp 199 deg F
Highest water temp 138 deg F
Average temps
Head 185 deg F
Water 135 deg F
Getting better.
After I get it broke in I'm gonna do some tests with 50/50 green stuff.
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Had a small clunking sound in the front end.
It was nothing more then a loose triple stem.
But the thing that I found that blew me away was all that dirt!!! :D
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1887)
I cleaned it up quick before someone saw it 8-)
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45-65MPH twisties, 40 minute ride time
Air temp 81F
Humidity 33%
Head: 195-220 F
Coolant: 125-130F
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Had a really hard time figuring out why my head temps were so much higher then my water temps since the top end replacement.
Also, I was getting a lot of spooge dripping from the head pipe area..
So Sunday I remove the exhaust and discovered that my cool custom muffler had collapsed internally...
I guess I'll have to do a bit of redesigning to fix it.
Now it all makes sense... hotter head temps and lots of spooge...
Gotta get this thing done and broke in before my next desert trip...
Since I can't run the custom muffler in the desert I bought a USFS spark arrestor.
Should be here Wednesday...
I sure hope so... I need to get going..
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Keep us posted on the temps, curious how much difference it makes with out the "Extra" back pressure!
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Me too.
I am going to add another temp gauge at the outlet of the head so I can see pre and post cooling... Cause Motorrad is making me.
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Should be ready for a trip to the dunes....
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1899)
The cool thing about riding your Supermoto at the dunes.... You can signal while passing :D
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The cool thing about riding your Supermoto at the dunes.... You can signal while passing :D
funny. I LOVE doing that.
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My bike is feeling dejected... Dirty oil... dirty chassis... dirty plug...
What's this world coming to?
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1924)
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Could be worse. I have not touched mine since I got the front tire and brakes on it except for piling crap on it! Have repaired three outboards, built floorboards for my 12' PortaBote, made repairs to our travel trailer, made more foam rocks and a waterfall cover and took a week off for vacation among other things. Might actually get back on it sometime this summer. Geez! Took a couple of rides as well including a 300+ mile trip on my Ninja 250 just to see if I wanted to sell it. Nah, going to keep it for now. One of the most fun to ride bikes we own. Hope everyones summer is starting off well.
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Like most, I've been really busy this summer with weddings, graduations, home maintenance, and only a few rides :-(
But I took a few minutes to order some parts for my SM...
Gaskets, O-Rings, Snap Rings, Seals and bearings for the bottom end that is currently in the bike.
I'm gonna swap out the bottom end with the one I just built with the balanced crank.
Now I just need to finish building my new ported top end...
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I want to see pictures of your ported top end
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After I get it done (Thanks to all your help) I will post plenty of pics...
After checking out your Juggs I still have a little work to do :wink:
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I am getting a little turned on here. Disturbs me a bit. :-D
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I know I know.... I just got this thing together and running....
But I just can't resist...
So...... Out with the old...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1983)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1984)
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I'm waiting for all my gaskets to come in and I'm twitching to get the show on the road....
Today I started looking at my stock cylinder :-o
And you know, I can't port it or deck it without having it re-plated.
So, I'm gonna do what I can without porting.
What can be done?
Quite a bit....
Take a look at the cylinder before I started messing with it..
Stock bridges which were welded before plating, looks kinda rough..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1985)
Stock transfers and stock floor ports.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1986)
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So, I whipped out the die grinder and GGGGGGGGRRRRRRRWWWWHHHHEEEEE!!!!!!
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1987)
I can't use this thing.
Sure, it moves a lot of material but I can't hang onto it very well...
So, I grabbed my Dremel, I know some of you hate it but I'm not set up with air tools..
And, after a while they will move material.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1988)
And don't forget the eye protection as well as the lens correction for those of us who can't see anything unless it is at least 3 feet in front of us 8-)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1989)
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Now were starting to get somewhere..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1990)
These are looking better too...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1991)
So far I have about an hour into the project.
I'm about half way done so it's not a bad job and if I can do it, you can too.. :lol:
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You missed a spot
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A big thanks goes to Motorrad for patiently showing me how to do this after about 861 emails, pics, n stuff :-D
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OCD?
Maybe :|
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2004)
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Something cool showed up today..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2005)
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OCD?
Maybe :|
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2004)
Not quite right
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Not done yet :-P
It takes me a while cause people interrupt me all day long :lol:
Then again I can't do it completely right without getting it re-plated...
I'm saving that for the other cylinder I have been working on that you helped me with so much :-o
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I have leak down tester envy
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That IS a cool leak tester. Hmmm. Wife found a valve from a blood pressure cuff and brought it home. One way valve with a bleed valve built in. Was trying to figure out what to do with it. Would work. Then again I have a commercial vacuum pump (mortician, with implements and instructions!) and other high end valves so do not really need to fab something.
Still, it IS a nice kit... Nice work on the cylinder!
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I would not have bought the leak down tester but we are working on too many different bikes.
It was almost a need :-D
What got me was the price,
I just couldn't pass it up.
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Still finishing the last of the cylinder clean up.
But for now I'm finishing the bottom end...
What we have is all the oil passages have been cleaned up, all mating surfaces have been lapped with Timesaver, bearings, seals, gaskets, shift forks, shift drum, and every snap ring, has been replaced.
The crank has been welded, trued, and balanced and rebuilt, using a IMS Pro rod.
Windowed Wossner piston, stock bore, fresh plate.
Transfers, bridges, and exhaust port, has been cleaned up.
Water ports have been cleaned up and the impeller clearance mod is done.
2 angle squish band with decompression on the head.
The rest is just glitter...
So, it should be just a nice, smooth, stock motor with some cleanup.
How will it run?
I should find out very soon.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2009)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2010)
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Dirt in your rubber boot is never a good sign...
I was downright sick...
Good thing I caught it before I put it back together..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2018)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2019)
All better now thanks to a cage asy from a 99 kdx200 and some Permatex Ultra Black RTV Silicone :thumbup:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2020)
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In transition..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2023)
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A little more progress:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2037)
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A wee bit more progress...
Cheap Chinese rads look great but the holes never seem to line up :oops:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2038)
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Almost ready...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2039)
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Nice radiators.
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Nice radiators.
8-)
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A quick recap and 1st heat cycle..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnWQSe1IrxE&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnWQSe1IrxE&feature=youtu.be)
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A quick recap and 1st heat cycle..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnWQSe1IrxE&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnWQSe1IrxE&feature=youtu.be)
Jerk
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Mine will never be as fast as yours... :wink:
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what was the vibration comment at the end? Is it noticeably better with the balanced crank? Sounds wonderful.
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A quick recap and 1st heat cycle..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnWQSe1IrxE&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnWQSe1IrxE&feature=youtu.be)
Jerk
hurry up then, fire marshal is less important, we are all waiting :roll: :roll:
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Yeah, my buddy Jason who was on the bike and made that comment noticed it was smoother right away.
Right after that comment I started varying the throttle and it is noticeably smoother.
Hopefully the weather will be better tomorrow and I'll take it on a ride.... After a few more heat cycles.
Then, I'll change the oil, take it out, and wind the springs out of it 8-)
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Sounds n looks great man!! AWESOME JOB
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Awesome can't wait for the ride report
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Sounds excellent! Makes me embarrassed that mine is still sitting on the lift. :cry:
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I have my AF project that I started 3 years ago, sitting looking at me.... :|
If your embarrassed, I'm ashamed :oops:
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Took her out for a short ride this afternoon.
So far I couldn't be happier.
The power comes on quicker and the engine revs faster then I have ever felt.
I couldn't flog it because I'm still in the break in mode but I can already tell this is the best engine I have ever built for the KX500.
Having the crank balanced is a huge plus.
I wish a I had a vibrometer to tell you what was happening at what RPM but I don't.
Butt Dyno result says it vibrates half as much as the stock bike maybe less.
I use to start my bike, set it on the side stand and it would vibrate circles around my driveway.
Now it sits there and purrs... Oh yeah.
I hope to have it ready to blow the cobb webs out by Saturday afternoon.
More info will be coming as I start opening it up.
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Great news. Whats your break in procedure?
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Who did your crank?
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Great news. Whats your break in procedure?
I use heat cycles with a non synthetic premix.
I vary the rpms but don't twist the throttle too hard.
After heat cycling 4 times or so I ride it gently at first and gradually gas it a bit harder and harder until my desert tank needs a refill.
Then I change the crank case oil, fill it up and pin it to win it.
Who did your crank?
Pinsonnault Racing.
So far I'm highly impressed.
I'll be sending another their way before long.
I have to get another engine ready for the AF project 8-)
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I had to go to the bank.
I had to go to the DMV.
I had to go to the store.
I had to go to the post office...
It's amazing how many errands you have to do when your super moto is running and the weather is nice :-)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2079)
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I took it out and rode it for about 50 miles city and hwy miles.
Combined with my previous rides I felt as though it is well broke it.
So I was at a favorite close to home mountain rd riding spot and I needed to pass some cars.
Dropped into 4th and wound it out, quick shift into 5th and pinned it WOT for a few seconds....
I was not disappointed in the least.
Now it's time to start playing with my next engine build with advanced port timing :-o
The engine in my supermoto will end up in my AF build eventually...
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Yesterday I took the Supermoto out for about a hour ride.
It was 95F out, don't know the humidity.
It was about 30% in town and about 70% windy hwy with a posted speed limit of 55 mph :evil:
Since my last post I changed a few things on my bike.
I did a complete bottom end rebuild with a IMS pro rod that was rebuilt, welded, trued, and balanced.
The transfers, ports, and bridges were cleaned up.
The head has a squish change.
The port timing is stock.
The piston is a Wossner windowed piston.
I also have the Motorrad coolant passage clean ups and water pump impeller clearance mod.
I am also running Chinese Radiators.
So basically I'm running the factory engine that Kawasaki should have built excluding the exhaust port work that I couldn't do without re-plating the cylinder :D
It is definitely faster then stock and way smoother...
Also running 50/50 antifreeze
My running temps were as follows
Water after cooling 143-147F
Head temps 190-199F
So I'm definitely headed in the right direction.
I'll be trying some Royal Purple with distilled water later this week.
I'll note any changes I find 8-)
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"Since my last post I changed a few things on my bike."
You did all that since the 26th?!?!?! While running a business? You are the MAN! :-o
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Ah... I posted that at my own site first in reference to a post there on cooling.
Then copied and pasted without the correct edits...
My bad :-o
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Could not resist being the smart ass. :evil:
Sorry. Maybe. Not really. :lol:
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I would have done the same or worse... :evil:
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It's amazing how many things you can find to soda blast once you have one set up :-D
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2134)
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I picked one up and used it with course grit to blast a 5 layer paint job. Was not real impressed with the removal speed even though it is easier on parts. Was thinking about swapping out parts to go sand.
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Yeah, it's not made for quick removal of anything.
It's awesome for carbs and small parts.
I like it on the inside of my engine cases.
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My buddy Jason taking it for a spin around the block
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tURAvIxE0ao&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tURAvIxE0ao&feature=youtu.be)
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not working for me
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One more time :lol:
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sounds awesome
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With the cylinder mods and balanced crank it sounds higher pitch, more like a 250.
It sure doesn't run like a 250 :lol:
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I took a long weekend and traveled south to meet up with my old man for some tard action.
When I arrived, I unloaded my bike and started it up.
It wound up to the moon.
I was grabbing the kill switch and freaking out.... but finally got it stopped.
So I checked it out and could not find anything wrong.
After I got it shut down and checked it out I tried to start it again.
Nothing... No spark...
Tried what I could but nothing worked
I guess thats what I get for using 20 year old electronics :D
So, I have been wanting to install my MZB ignition...
I guess this will be the week.
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Mines on the bench. You should do a how to.
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I was waiting for you to do it 8-)
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New chain rollers.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2154)
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who makes those?...I'm running T.M's right now...they've got about a season on em, and they're still good.
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MSR
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Next...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2158)
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Hey Sandblaster, I'm just getting ready to install my mzb on my sumo as well. Would love it if you could post a few pics up.
:-)
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Haven't gotten that far yet.
Running around with my hair on fire all day...
Soon is all I can say :-(
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Everyone's counting on you!!!!!!!!
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I know right?
What I know about electrical parts is they are full of smoke inside.
And whatever else you do, you don't want to let the smoke out of them.
Every time I let the smoke out of a electrical part, bad things happen.
So you guys are hoping that you can learn from my bad experience :-P
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Haha well if its a how not to I suppose I could take a crack at it.
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So you guys are hoping that you can learn from my bad experience :-P
every forum needs one :lol:....
(https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608014898028938476&pid=15.1&H=106&W=160&P=0)
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I've been putting it off for some time, but my dial indicator just showed up a couple days ago so it's go time.
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I know right?
What I know about electrical parts is they are full of smoke inside.
And whatever else you do, you don't want to let the smoke out of them.
Every time I let the smoke out of a electrical part, bad things happen.
So you guys are hoping that you can learn from my bad experience :-P
look up joe Lucas's theory of electronics sometime
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went and got it for you lazy bastards.
ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS
Positive ground depends on proper circuit functioning, which is the transmission of negative ions by retention of the visible spectral manifestation known as “smoke”.
Smoke is the thing that makes electrical circuits work. We know this to be true because every time one lets the smoke out of an electrical circuit, it stops working. This can be verified repeatedly through empirical testing.
For example, if one places a copper bar across the terminals of a battery, prodigious quantities of smoke are liberated and the battery shortly ceases to function. In addition, if one observes smoke escaping from an electrical component such as a Lucas voltage regulator, it will also be observed that the component no longer functions. The logic is elementary and inescapable!
The function of the wiring harness is to conduct the smoke from one device to another. When the wiring springs a leak and lets all the smoke out of the system, nothing works afterward.
Starter motors were considered unsuitable for British motorcycles for some time largely because they consumed large quantities of smoke, requiring very unsightly large wires.
It has been reported that Lucas electrical components are possibly more prone to electrical leakage than their Bosch, Japanese or American counterparts. Experts point out that this is because Lucas is British, and all things British leak. British engines leak oil, British shock absorbers, hydraulic forks and disk brake systems leak fluid, British tires leak air and British Intelligence leaks national defense secrets.
Therefore, it follows that British electrical systems must leak smoke. Once again, the logic is clear and inescapable.
In conclusion, the basic concept of transmission of electrical energy in the form of smoke provides a logical explanation of the mysteries of electrical components especially British units manufactured by Joseph Lucas, Ltd.
And remember: “A gentleman does not motor about after dark.”
Joseph Lucas “The Prince of Darkness”
1842-1903
The Lucas motto: “Get home before dark.”
Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit.
Lucas - Inventor of the first intermittent wiper.
Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.
The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF.
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You see? That guy knows what he is talking about 8-)
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That is funny. Have dealt with Lucas in motorcycles and cars and can verify it is all true...
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(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2199)
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Getting ready for my next desert ride.... Building a new front wheel.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3267)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3268)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3269)
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I LOVE motoring about after dark!
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It will be my first time on a dirt bike in the desert at night 8-)
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Wher are you going to ride?
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Christmas Valley, OR
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It will be my first time on a dirt bike in the desert at night 8-)
you going into the midnight "contraband run" business? :lol:
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It will be my first time on a dirt bike in the desert at night 8-)
you going into the midnight "contraband run" business? :lol:
Nearly everyone I ride with has a quad.
I'm one of the few bike hold outs.
Anyway, they always go on a night desert ride.
Having no lights I have to sit back at camp and have some Reposado 1800.
While having some Reposado at night, in the desert, while sitting around the camp fire, has it's own merits, I'd much rather be riding.
The last time I had a bike set up for desert night riding, was 5 years ago.
It was a XR650R set up like this:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/83/55/a7/8355a78a13b841194efbfe89ef03a28b.jpg)
My plan was to ride my KX during the day and ride the XR at night.
I never got to the night ride.
http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=27 (http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=27)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/junk/X-RAY2.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu165/oemcycle/junk/1.jpg)
The next evening, I did get to watch my buddies ride my bike at night while I sat around the camp fire drinking Reposado :lol:
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I hear ya...I haven't gone night roostin in a few years...not on a bike anyways.
I did plenty over the past couple months on the sled though....which is quite a rush at 100+mph with 2 foot thick oak trees just a couple feet on either side of ya. :-o....
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Don't want to hit one of those at 100.. :-o
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That fixturing to tie your bones together would be cool as a bracket of some sort on the bike :-D
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That fixturing to tie your bones together would be cool as a bracket of some sort on the bike :-D
I'll have to give that some thought :-D
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Ready to mount up
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3270)
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nice!!....that baby's got "GOLF COURSE" written aaaaaaaaaallllllllll over it! :mrgreen:
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That would be great until you got cuffed 8-)
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nice!!....that baby's got "GOLF COURSE" written aaaaaaaaaallllllllll over it! :mrgreen:
A man after my own heart. I day dreamed near continuously while I owned my banshee of a night time jaunt on on the local 18 holes. Particularly when they'd had the sprinklers on. It's small town here & the course is right near the trail head where you could just disappear on the mountain. Of course having just typed this I'm pretty well implicating myself if it ever does happen :cry:
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Interesting that they wanted to put it back together again. Both of mine have had the ends cut off (arthritis) while repairing rotator cuff injuries. The weird thing is the remaining bone will grow calcium straight out. Looks like a pure white extension on the end of the bone on the x-rays. I was part of a study group to have the 'anomaly' checked out by X-rays at no cost to me. I have a couple of cool video's of the original operation when they ground off the ends.
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nice!!....that baby's got "GOLF COURSE" written aaaaaaaaaallllllllll over it! :mrgreen:
A man after my own heart. I day dreamed near continuously while I owned my banshee of a night time jaunt on on the local 18 holes. Particularly when they'd had the sprinklers on. It's small town here & the course is right near the trail head where you could just disappear on the mountain. Of course having just typed this I'm pretty well implicating myself if it ever does happen :cry:
I say it only because we've lost SOOOOOO much land that used to PRIME trails and old fast fire roads from the 1940's and 1950's over the last 30 years, that got plowed into these....(I hate to say it), beautiful golf facilities....and the 1st thing that comes to mind whenever I see a beautifully landscaped/manicured course is...."I'd love to rip across that with a fresh Terra-Flex strapped on the rear!!" :evil:
(http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy7/xcflyn/DSC00372.jpg)
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That would be great until you got cuffed 8-)
working where "I" do....I wouldn't be too concerned with the law :wink:
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"I'd love to rip across that with a fresh Terra-Flex strapped on the rear!!" :evil:
How do you like that tire? Would you please compare it to other types you have used? Thanks.
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"I'd love to rip across that with a fresh Terra-Flex strapped on the rear!!" :evil:
How do you like that tire? Would you please compare it to other types you have used? Thanks.
I haven't bought one in a few years....but,
they're really heavy, big, and wear faster than I'd like to see for the amount they cost....but when they're new, hold the f**k on, cause they do hook up!!
overall, I won't buy them anymore...my terrain chews em up too quick, even though I'm in mostly sand, it's a course sand with a lot of stones, and some black loam trails.
And they're just too "heavy"...you really notice it, over a 120 or 130 Dunlop or Michelin.
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When I was a kid we'd wet the lawn & slide the 3 wheeler , it was a riot
I love the tflex , other than wear = 6 short rides to bald, have you run one since they came back to the U.S. ?
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have you run one since they came back to the U.S. ?
the last time I ran one was in 2011...I'm not sure if that would be inside that time frame or not.
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That would be the edge of the China version supposed to be better now. TSL , the super swamped guys, make it now
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I could sure make that hub look nice :-D
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Well.... We will see how it does soon enough :-o
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3271)
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let's get some video footage of the night train running through the desert! :mrgreen:
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That one looks a lot like the one that got taken?!?! Sure you didn't just loose it in the garage and re-discover it? 😜
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That one looks a lot like the one that got taken?!?! Sure you didn't just loose it in the garage and re-discover it? 😜
I wish....
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Something good is going on...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3416)
Can you guess??
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3417)
I knew you could..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3418)
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Don't need these..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3419)
I want it to be like this.... but cleaner :-o
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3420)
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Don't need these..
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3419)
I want it to be like this.... but cleaner :-o
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3420)
+1....I see you received your package from CCS, it's the best! Make sure to use the proper bit/drive rotation as I see you have experienced :-o
DoldGuy
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Oh yes, I have a nice assortment of reverse burrs :lol:
But going slow and changing the cutting angle goes a long way to not having a problem.
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This is all for now.
Still gotta weld up the compression reliefs so no sense getting carried away.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3421)
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Ooohhh ahhhh
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This is all for now.
Still gotta weld up the compression reliefs so no sense getting carried away.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3421)
I guess it's too late to say "Don't lower the bottom of the main exhaust port."
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This is all for now.
Still gotta weld up the compression reliefs so no sense getting carried away.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3421)
I guess it's too late to say "Don't lower the bottom of the main exhaust port."
Nope, haven't touched it :-D
In fact I have to cut the top of the exhaust port back to the stock specs as it has been welded up.
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Something huge showed up last week..
There was no "M" markings but if you know what to look for you can see the "M" touch on it...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3549)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3550)
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Something huge showed up last week..
There was no "M" markings but if you know what to look for you can see the "M" touch on it...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3549)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3550)
I'd sure like to know more about that carb
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Me too 8-)
I know it is a 44mm Lectron with a cool choke set up on it.
I gotta get it on my bike one of these days...
I doubt I have enough port timing to make full use of it but we will see..
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Well... It's been about 6 years since I built this bike when catastrophe happened..
I was climbing a dune and misjudged the amount of speed it would take to just barely clear the top so I had to wind this baby up and leave it there for about 10 seconds... I made it to the top when I heard a rattling sound... I shut the engine off and got towed behind a side by side a few miles back to camp in the deep sand.
I just let the bike sit in the garage for the last several months because I thought that I had ran it too lean and smoked the piston...
Well... the piston was smoked but not from being ran too lean...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6923)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6924)
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As soon as I saw it I had a feeling I knew where that small bolt had come from...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6925)
In one of my "How To" threads I specifically say that if you use a VF2 reed that you need to take all the bolts out and use thread locker on them.
Apparently the Blue I used wasn't enough... So next time I will use the red... 8-)
So here my baby sits in need of some love... :lol:
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6926)
After I get some fork cleaner in town tomorrow I will rinse out the bottom end and get it prepped for a test top end.
Yes.... Test top end.... :evil:
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Mike,
I thought you had one of Adams?
http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,11799.msg100869.html#msg100869
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I do... but when I built this engine I didn't :-D
But I can assure you that I will get one for each of my K5's..
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When is the KTM/KX500 scheduled to be up and running?
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I am ready as soon as MXA gets me the rest of the parts :-P
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Since I fragged this engine I think I will build something a little more exotic this time..
I think this will be a good fit
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=7422)
And, while I'm at it I'll strip it down and start over...
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Nice😍
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Something huge showed up last week..
There was no "M" markings but if you know what to look for you can see the "M" touch on it...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3549)
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3550)
I forgot about this picture. Where did you get the choke lever? The stupid thing is on the wrong side.
Motorad pulled it off something he had laying around.. :-o
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Once more its time for a update.
Take down...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=8112)
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Going to pull a few more tricks out of your sleeve for this one? I'm finally about to get mine back out on the streets. Tuned in to see where you go with it this time.
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Im still not 100% sure but considering a very high port timing and compression bump.
Better pipe and carb.
I want it stupid fast. :-o
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When you say very high, what are your thoughts. Is that pipe designed for a high 190’s exhaust duration? What are your plans for the transfers? Do you have a specific head design laid out, and are you thinking a big carb or small carb? Interested in what direction you are going and how the results are. Keep us updated.
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Im still not 100% sure but considering a very high port timing and compression bump.
Better pipe and carb.
I want it stupid fast. :-o
Mike,
Long time no talk! I just sat down and read your thread page 1 - 24 on oem-cycle for the tard.. ! Looks like this one is about the same if not the exact same write-up and I'm actually a member to this site.. I get confused many times with the KX Guru racing pages as you are in Oregon but if I recall there people using accounts associated with you here in California as well. Your a busy guy I know, very excited for your build man you've been building her since the thread started on oem-cycle circa 2012? curious as to why this thread contains 43 pages, and the other about far less... anyway ROCK AND ROLL BABY you got the coolest KX Supermotard on earth; must ask though, you ever seen rolandsands design for the super single concept? Taking your experience building so many of these KX500 engines, and that concept sounds like a recipe for "win on Sunday, sell on Monday"
Badass, brother! Never got to thank you on freely giving your time to message me while I worked out the kinks on my previous kx500 also year 2001 (which was my first k5).
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Since I fragged this engine I think I will build something a little more exotic this time..
I think this will be a good fit
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=7422)
And, while I'm at it I'll strip it down and start over...
what pipe is that?
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Looks like a Jonathon Bell pipe.
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It is from the UK.
Jon Bell Doma cone pipe.
It is one of the best pipes for power that I have tested.
All stock engine with this pipe easily makes 60 HP at the rear wheel.
Stock pipe makes 53 HP at the rear wheel.
https://www.facebook.com/jonathon.bell.566
(https://www.facebook.com/jonathon.bell.566)
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Clean up.
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=8115)
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(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=8116)
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Click on the pic
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=8117)
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8.32cc of Crankcase volume reduced.... Sending to Tom Morgan Racing
for assembly and balancing...
(http://www.oem-cycle.com/forum/download/file.php?id=8123)