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Power delivery of KX verses CR
Mick:
--- Quote from: BDI on December 21, 2007, 08:26:57 AM ---I let my buddy I grew up ridding with ride it for the first time at the dry lake bed with new tire It was not five minuts before he looped the bike out and he was not even trying to wheelie it. I went for a ride one day after it rained I came out of a sand wash on to a trail there was a loose spot followed by some rock I roled the throttle on the bike broke loose reved to the moon hooked up when my ass hit the ground my feet were still on the pegs.
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:-D that's a funny story!!
Problem is there isn't a powervalve made that can fix stupid. Bottom line is you'd better be smarter then the average bear to ride a 500 two stroke. Or you'll find yourself on your ass with your feet still on the pegs.
I'm glad your KX puts 70 horses to the ground. That's a lot more then my KX or CR does at the crank. But I can d**n sure ride the piss out of them both. Sounds like you needed a flywheel weight, reed spacer and a 15 tooth on the countershaft. They also sell 450s for guys who can't control that throttle hand thing.
Hillclimb#42:
Easy BDI, everybody at least likes ripping the two wheelers. I can't see the Cr hitting harder with no powervalve and shorter stroke. It has to hit its max r's faster, but it seems that the kx would have higher rev limit. I'm totally guessing about that though.
I know that the hillclimbers and recreational riders that I know all consider the Cr a more rider friendly bike. It has some pro's like easy to find parts, no powervalve to get carboned, and I always heard a more controlable bottom end and better braking.
I personally throw all that out, because riding something everyone thinks is too fast to ride kicks ass. Now that the k5 is running awesome and set up like it is,(thanks to alot of you guys) I couldn't trade it straight across for a new 450 and think I got a good deal.
When the k5 is on, it is the bike to have for brute force power.
CR480R:
--- Quote from: BDI on December 21, 2007, 08:53:45 AM ---I'm sure it is a horrible video It does not support your argument and it shows how abruptly the power can come on. I must be a fool because I did not realize that my cr500 was the only one that honda made that did not have a power valve because that was the only thing wrong with It.
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The only thing that video supports is a guy that cannot ride... And while it might not support my argument, it d**n sure doesnt support yours... IMO bogging a bike down to a dead stop with the throttle wicked and pounding the clutch is not an accurate display of power delivery...
--- Quote from: BDI on December 21, 2007, 08:26:57 AM --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvcZfWjUAQ8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=276Wks3KRDw
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I guess KX 500's must be pipey too... lol... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeGYgM3kovQ
don46:
I really hate to get into discussion about the CR vs KX, always it's an individual thing, we all tune our bikes differently, mine may run one way and somebody else's may run another. The 86 Honda was a brute, many friends quit riding because of that bike, after 86 there was a continual trend to make them more rider friendly (read detuned), not to say they were dogs, they were'nt 85's.I've ridden both, and in my opinion the cr will not run with a good running KX. As far as chassis go, I think the cr was better than the stock KX, but, you will note the BDI, myself and many others are using different chassis, now they handle like 250's, additionally I've ridden Service Honda's, Mine handles much better, maybe I spend more time on suspension.
Again at the end of the day, it comes down to rider preference.
So, all you Honda guys, maybe you need to go where you'll feel the love: http://cr500riders.com/cgi/yabb/YaBB.pl
This is a KX site, period. sorry for the bluntness but I don't want to continue with the "mines better than yours" .
Lets talk about the good stuff, Stewart, how can I get some more HP, do you want to try my 250 ignition on the dyno?
I sure love my KX500's
Mick:
I am a member of CR500riders. The fact that I also ride a KX is why I come here. Gotta find someway of making use of a good two stroke motor because a guy wouldn't get squat selling it. Naturally having one AF I'd like a green one too. But I can't afford to buy another one of AJ's bikes without selling the one I got...which isn't happening.
Interesting thread. I'm not looking to change anybody's mind, or get burnt by some green riders. I love the KX500. It is the king of horsepower. But it really isn't good for much but moving sand. It can punish a sand dune better than anything...It's just that I'm a moderately competitive MXer, and you can't stay up front at the track these days aboard a KX500. I'm sure those steel perimeter frames do help some. If only GP riders like Paul Malin thought they were worth a darn maybe Kawasaki would have produced them?
BDI sadly I don't think we're gonna meet at the monkey bars after school. The sand dunes I ride on are in Southern Idaho or the coast of Oregon. If that's in your neighborhood then this should be good :wink: But I'm gonna take a stab at it and say you are in the South West?? Because that's pretty much all you do right? Ride sand dunes?
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