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oxygen injection
booneylander:
Pure Oxygen would be physically do-able but you wouldn't be able to get much gain before you'd start melting things.
The air we breathe has about 20% oxygen, and nitrous has more but only about 35%, the remainder in both cases is mostly nitrogen.
That being said the main reasons you can get so much power from nitrous is more due to the fact that it's so much colder and much more dense than air, so it's easy to get 2-3 times more oxygen molecules per volume of mixture you take in.
The kicker is that when you have say 3 times more oxygen, you're generating 3 times more heat from combustion. If it wasn't for the cooling effect of the nitrous (which can often be at -100F in the intake) you'd be melting your engine in no time.
So, if you could pipe pure oxygen into your engine, it might work, but you'd have to deal with all the other issues too.
MadKaw:
in turbo cars some people have been using water injection to both cool and I think there is some breakdown of the H2O molecule to release the O2 and Hydrogen....since the 2-stroke acts as a kind of supercharger I wonder if this could be applied?
don46:
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--- Quote from: don46 on September 23, 2007, 12:25:58 PM ---Wayyyy bad idea, oxygen does not like hydrocarbons. It will make a big explosion, ever wonder why your oxy acetylene gauges say use no oil, big explosion. bad, bad, bad idea, I like reading your posts, and would like to see you around awhile, don't do it.
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Don you should not not be a negative Nellie you should be open to new ideas. I have been kicking around the idea of hydrogen peroxide injection ran threw a catalyzer. should be one hell of a jump In horse power we plan to test run It at Bonneville. :evil:
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No Brian, I'm not being a negative Nellie, I would like to see Maddoggy around for awhile. This is the business I'm in, Oxygen is not anything to fool with, we've had explosions from just friction within lines while pumping. We do demonstration for kids, one of them is to put a drop of liquid O2 on a disc and then on another take a rag with oil and rub it across the other, the drop one onto the other, it makes quite an explosion, (this is in a controlled environment so the kids aren't in danger). Working around the stuff I've developed a healthy respect for it. I'm open for anything as long as it doesn't jepordize anybody;s well being.
don46:
--- Quote from: MadKaw on September 24, 2007, 02:56:37 AM ---in turbo cars some people have been using water injection to both cool and I think there is some breakdown of the H2O molecule to release the O2 and Hydrogen....since the 2-stroke acts as a kind of supercharger I wonder if this could be applied?
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If it was only that easy to breakdown water, but alas, at this point in time it can't be done. Interestingly you can inject Hydrogen in Argon to get rid of O2 and end up with water, the reverse isn't possible.
Most of thime I've seen water injected was to reduce detonation.
MadKaw:
Oh yes Grasshopper...but soon it shall be....and there will be GLORIOUS flames ejected from the pipe in such magnitudes that an afterburner affect will be had. launching the magnificent K5 into the the reaches of space.... and then ....yes then....the 4-stroke will fall to the feet of the mighty 5-hunny. trembling in its pool of used motor oil....
or something like that!
;p.....MK
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