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Trans oil?

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Good:
Been using ATF-F for the last month.  Nothing but good reviews here.  Store was out Sat. so I got some 10W30 and had no complaints either.  Cheers.  I'm not a mechanic though, at all, no really, at all, just a rider and shifts were fine with both.

Friar-Tuck:
 Please don't get offended if you get referred to a search engine.   Lots of topics have been covered and kept in archive for folks to research at their leisure.  Some of the most knowledgeable members don't seem to interact as much as a new to "Team Green" guy like myself would hope they would.
 I figure they must have answered a handful of questions a bunch of times.
(and I usually find a thread of some sort in archive.  (ie. search).  If something doesn't make sense or You have an Idea to throw out there you can usually "draw them out". 
I also enjoy receiving  feedback from other members and getting a response as opposed to just reading someones old thread. 
     Now back to your question =)
 I have tried everything from simple motor oil to tractor oil for use with wet clutch applications.  Personally I would run a synthetic motorcycle specific tranny oil if I could afford it.  The only things I have avoided were anything with friction modifiers. (as some motor oils do)  The most important variable is you and the service interval.  The more/harder you ride the more often the oil change.
     Amount: if the capacity for the tranny is anywhere close to a qt. she gets the whole bottle.   The main reason I dump the whole qt. is it's easier to measure at drain time. (yup, draining) measuring the used oil from your tranny will let you know if you have a crank seal sucking up your tranny fluid. 
(I've chased carb and fuel issues only to realize I was burning tranny fluid. bad right side crank seal  )
   Your Mileage May Vary!
 Tuck \o/

Good:
But, I gotta say, no offence, but, how HARD do you ride man?  I freaking go down almost every time I ride (suxorz, but I can't help it!!!) from pusihing the envelope (anyone want to sponsor a 31 year old no-fear type?).  (SRH/Fleshgear pay attention) J/K!

Should I change my oil every time I ride (2-3 hour free riding) using ATF-F or just ride a few times with ATF-F/10w30/40/whatever and change it eventually?

FuriouSly:

--- Quote --- I figure they must have answered a handful of questions a bunch of times.
(and I usually find a thread of some sort in archive.  (ie. search).  If something doesn't make sense or You have an Idea to throw out there you can usually "draw them out"....Friar-Tuck
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Nice Post Tuck...


--- Quote ---The only things I have avoided were anything with friction modifiers....Friar-Tuck
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Definately avoid FM's in 2S,  for your clutch plates welfare....  they work great on 4Stroke applications for an isolated cam/valve train system  (KTM,  Honda,  Etc...)

Unlike a 4S where the combustion process adds products of combustion to the oil,  2S oil actually only gets the wear particles from the gears and clutch plates.  If you tend to lug in the woods,  slip the clutch alot,  or put alot of torque to the ground (drags,  real MX,  or dunes)  you should change the oil after every outting.

Most riders can get away with a fairly inexpensive oil like ATF and change it after every outting for cheap.  If you have alot of motor work into your bike and ride it hard... then generally the oil change is part of the prep for the next outting,  just like the air filter change.

Like mentioned in other threads,  I use H*nda HP Trans Oil SAE 80W/85W.

Search Engine will get you alot of answers,  you can even Bump an old post for a refresher...

Sly

Danger4u2:

--- Quote from: 99raptor on April 21, 2007, 11:25:27 AM ---an answer is far more effective than referring to a search engine

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Easy now,  I thought you wanted answers to your question.  I was changing my oil before riding, went into the office as it was draining, checked the forum and found your question.  Sorry I'm not an arm chair KX500 rider.  If I was I would have time to type out answers just like the ones you would find in the search engine link.  So if you would, before you lean to the side that I'm being a smart a$$ by posting a link, stop and think.  "This guy took time from his ride to post a link for me and I don't even know him".  I thought posting that link was the fastest way for me to help you with your oil question/problem and get you on the road to your next ride.  Lighten up man I'm on your side.
Danger aka David

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